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#234 Mosaically Challenged (Hex)
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Hunting4Treasure
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I finally got the card and points today too!
:::::bowing down to Firebox Gods::::: Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:39 pm
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David Morgan-Mar
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Hey guys... This is the creator of Piet. I just checked in to see if anyone had solved the card yet, and I'm glad to see it's been cracked. Well done. From the conversation here, I'm pretty sure I know the solution, but then I'm not even playing the game. I'm just pleased you all got such fun out of messing with my programming language. Smile

Jazzychad: do you mind if I post your alpha_filled_big.png program on the Piet web page? It looks awesome.

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baf
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Just got it, but I only get two of the allusions (the biblical one and the Greek one). Who slices the canvas with shards? What's all this about something green, subtle, and difficult to parse?

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:45 am
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baf wrote:
Just got it, but I only get two of the allusions (the biblical one and the Greek one). Who slices the canvas with shards? What's all this about something green, subtle, and difficult to parse?

Im in the same boat, still dont know whats going on with the canvas shards or the subtle green thing, and only got the Greek reference after i had solved it. Anyone care to shed some light on the last 2 references?
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:27 am
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mobius
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
hope this isn't too blatently obvious, shards of a canvas: think what it would mean if I gave you the clue: "a prism"


PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:27 am
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jazzychad
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David Morgan-Mar wrote:
Jazzychad: do you mind if I post your alpha_filled_big.png program on the Piet web page? It looks awesome.


I would be honored to have my program on your site. Please feel free to post it there. My fiance and I are having a little competition to see who can make the coolest programs, so there may be more to come as well. Very Happy

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:23 am
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tg
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3rd clue

I dont have the card, so I dont KNOW the answer, but
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if the answer is what I think it is, the 3rd clue is Irish


PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:52 pm
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Magma
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So we are going with these?

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she sliced the canvas with shards
Prisms

a promise land shall never drown again
Noah's Ark

those green subtle the precious there
Leprachauns

the path of the messenger she
Iris, a Greek messenger of Hera


Seems a bit odd, the first not being mythology/belief-based. Is there no myth that encapsulates the first segment?
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It still seems shaky to me... especially the 3rd and 4th lines. Are we *sure* the colors were all correct when running the piet program? I have a feeling we have some wrong words here. Confused
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Grizy
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I emailed David Morgan-Mar with this:-
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Hi David,

Piet. Fantastic. I've really enjoyed the journey through solving this puzzle.
The combination of programming and art takes it to another level.

May I ask, how do you convert the colour numbers into actual colours?
There has been some conjecture (even though the puzzle has been solved) as to whether we have identified the correct colours and produced all the correct phrases.

Is there a particular software package (hopefully in xp) that you use where you can simply enter the colour number?

Again many thanks. This card and your programming genius has given us many hours of entertainment / research / stress.

Grizy

P.S I have a spare of this card if you would like one


I also asked if he was the puzzle scribe.

Grizy

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:20 pm
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baf
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Hunting4Treasure wrote:
It still seems shaky to me... especially the 3rd and 4th lines. Are we *sure* the colors were all correct when running the piet program? I have a feeling we have some wrong words here. Confused


I'd say that it's questionable whether the last word is part of the message, because (a) it's separated from the rest of the message by a couple of steps, and (b) the program from that point onward is garbage not in keeping with the pattern of the rest of it. Anyway, it reads better without that word.

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Hunting4Treasure
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Grizy,
I hope you get a positive reply.
Although we have the answer, I think we'd all like to know the correct process that should have got us there. I think the only problem is color determination on a couple of them. From what little I remember about (Basic) programming (back when I was in school), one wrong character (or colored pixel, in this case), can make all the difference!
It bothers me that I *guessed* the answer from just one of the phrases! Confused

On second thought, regarding the last phrase, and not fully understanding how the piet program works, Baf's explanation makes sense to me. But I would like the 3rd phrase much better if 'subtle' was substituted with 'hide'. Razz

Magma,
Wiki has a great article on the subject. And, isn't it ironic that humans have poor ability to distinguish colors in the *blue* portion of the visual spectrum... ? I think the first phrase (*not* a prism) may be referring to Chinese mythology, and the Goddess Nüwa. Wink

For those who *still* don't get it:
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Think of Noah's Ark spelled 'Arc'.
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 4:31 am
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Grizy
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DMM's reply to the email I sent: -

Grizy wrote:
> Piet. Fantastic. I've really enjoyed the journey through solving this puzzle.
> The combination of programming and art takes it to another level.

I'm glad you like it!

> May I ask, how do you convert the colour numbers into actual colours?
> There has been some conjecture (even though the puzzle has been solved) as
> to whether we have identified the correct colours and produced all the correct
> phrases.
>
> Is there a particular software package (hopefully in xp) that you use where
> you can simply enter the colour number?

They're specified as RGB colour codes, so almost any graphics software
should be able to convert those into actual colours. Even a web browser
can do it. The problem as I see it is mapping colours on a printed card
back into what they're intended to be. The only real way you can do that
is to identify three shades of red (for example) and assume the lightest
is light red, and the darkest is dark red.

> Again many thanks. This card and your programming genius has given us many
> hours of entertainment / research / stress.

Heh.

> P.S I have a spare of this card if you would like one.

That would be awesome. I was going to write to the Perplex City people
and see if they'd send me a freebie, but in case they can't, I'd really
appreciate it! You can mail it to:
David Morgan-Mar
[address removed]
Australia

Thanks very much for offering.

> Further to my previous email about Piet.
> The card doesn't carry an authors name. As it has now been solved,
> and your website is linked to how to solve it,
> May I ask, did you set us this puzzle?

Nope. The first I heard about it was when someone on a forum trying to
solve it collaboratively e-mailed me about it. If I'd created a puzzle
around it, I don't think I would have been as devious as whoever
actually created it. Smile

cheers,
David.

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Hunting4Treasure
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Great response, Grizy! Thanks for sharing! Wink

But we still don't know how to determine the *exact* colors... UGH! Confused
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primalfear
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i cant believe it was that easy just one simple word that everyone knows and has seen in there lives

i feel so silly now Embarassed

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