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Fuseunderground
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[UPDATE] Anna Heath 2nd May 2006 - Ceretin C6
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Ceretin 6
Tuesday, 2nd May 2006
Well, it looks like Oistin has delivered for us, after a fashion. The paper actually came out last Wednesday, but he's been so giddy over his data that he didn't think to get it to me until I gently prodded him yesterday afternoon.
And even despite his giddiness, he did get a fit of conscience right at the end, so he only gave me the summary page, rather than the whole paper. (Though it may be just as well, since what would we do with all of that tedious raw data and analysis of computer simulations?) At any rate, I've left it here for you.
It certainly is thought-provoking, isn't it? It makes we wonder... well, don't let me bias you. Take a look and tell me what you think.
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/ah328451/ceretin-g6.pdf
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:39 am
Juxta
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However, a satisfactory form of overdose protection has yet to be
incorporated; computer simulations indicate an issue with the conformation
of the a2 subunit of the Ceretiva derivative, which may also cause problems when different forms of Ceretin are mixed.
Was Isaac getting Pick n'Mix Ceretin perchance? If so, he seems to have been getting it somewhere other than Cognivia...perhaps teh sneeky 3P have been utilising their Clean Room's to create something similar to Ceretin 6, and releasing it onto the black market without testing - Cognivia haven't gone to market with the drug, because they found these problems.
[SPEC]
* 3P are creating and black-marketing their own cognitive enhancers in their "Clean Rooms".
* They have the means to make what Cognivia are currently testing (Ceretin 6) but have not yet released. Perhaps there is some industrial espionage going on, which has enabled them to get hold of the specifications for the new drug.
* Isaac is a heavy Ceretin 5 user, but comes upon the "new and improved, cor blimey guv'nor, it's what all the cool kids are taking" 3P version of Ceretin 6. OR. He is deliberately given the new drug, by person or persons unknown.
* He combines the two. Brain meltage ensues.
The moral of the story - be like Zammo kids, just say no.[/SPEC]
J
N.B. He wasn't part of the official testing group - members were all between 22 and 37 - none of whom had been dependent upon cognitive enhancers, as Cymbalisty was (or at least, seemed to be)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:50 am
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Fiera
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I wonder if these are meant to be the testers they were looking for in the CGW ad... hmm.
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:51 am
Juxta
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The CGW ad was on Earth...and...these tests were carried out in PerplexCity, so I'd say it's highly unlikely...
J
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:00 pm
Fuseunderground
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All the test subjects were quite young. Old people affected differently?
The range of results (inc. the extreme values) shows in one case no improvement over G5.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:02 pm
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duckiemonster
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One for the scientists.
This paper looks good in terms of what it's supposed to report, the language etc, so I think we can safely assume it's genuine.
Cymballisty was known to have been taking lots of ceretin, so I agree with Juxta that a pick and mix overdose could have pushed him over.
So whodunnit? Well, if you look at the graph, we've got the mysterious "HG"... who was in the ceretin 6 group, but performed like the ceretin 5. My spec is that HG palmed the ceretin 6 he/she was given, took some ceretin 5 hoping that it would bump up their performance enough and either gave the stolen ceretin 6 directly to Cymballisty (unlikely) or sold it on to some shady dealer/teh sneeky 3p/whoever (my money is here- drug trial participants aren't just picked off of the street, you keep info on them. Too risky for a murderer to contemplate, even with the bungling PxC police).
I think Kurt said that he didn't think ceretin 6 killed Cymballisty, but someone with knowledge of this drug could easilty have replicated the defective subunit and combined it with current ceretin to give the 'black market' compound found in his blood.
Some clever people who know how to work the thing have come up with an HG from the wiki... I'll let them post about her though
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:04 pm
brat-sampson
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The only HG character we have seen so far would be Hillary Gilbert, who was a protester against the Northside Preserve demolition and gave a Quote to The Sentinel
To be fair it's a strenuous connection, but it certainly seems like this HG person might be worth tracking down to have a nice quiet word with...
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:15 pm
European Chris
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We don't really know if it is this HG (seems likely), we need a list of those who took part.
I agree with the palming spec though.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:17 pm
justdig
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I like the idea of somebody palming the C6 and taking C5. A perfect way to kill somebody and make it look like suicide.
Narrows things down for us, too, if it's correct. We need somebody between 22 and 37 with no serious mental or physical problems who knew our victim well enough to know about his dependancy.
Continuing with that line of reasoning, it'd also need to be somebody with access to insider info on Cognivia's research, as it seems unlikely that they'd steal the drug on an offchance then only later find out that it could be used for a murder.
So, what'd be really nice now would be to be able to talk to a cognivia employee who was working on the project.
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:38 pm
Juxta
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We need somebody between 22 and 37 with no serious mental or physical problems
Well. At least we've whittled down the list of potential suspects somewhat there. Clearly nobody from UnFiction was involved then.
J
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:41 pm
European Chris
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BOOM BOOM
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:44 pm
jcane86
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Now, there isn't a chance we could get any info about HG from oistin, right?
after all, I'd think that's pretty classified info, but just wanted to see what you guys think.
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:50 pm
cassandra
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Hg also = mercury. Though that's hopefully coincidental.
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:54 pm
duckiemonster
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justdig wrote:
Narrows things down for us, too, if it's correct. We need somebody between 22 and 37 with no serious mental or physical problems who knew our victim well enough to know about his dependancy.
If you read what I wrote above, you'll see that I don't think this happened. I reckon that HG sold the ceretin 6 on to person/persons unknown who then committed te dastardly deed.
So not really much narrower at all, if this was the scenario. Although if HG can be pinned down, we could send Violet to torture and interrogate them. Or Anna. I maintain that she's a feisty one.
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:55 pm
European Chris
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duckiemonster wrote:
justdig wrote:
Narrows things down for us, too, if it's correct. We need somebody between 22 and 37 with no serious mental or physical problems who knew our victim well enough to know about his dependancy.
If you read what I wrote above, you'll see that I don't think this happened. I reckon that HG sold the ceretin 6 on to person/persons unknown who then committed te dastardly deed.
So not really much narrower at all, if this was the scenario. Although if HG can be pinned down, we could send Violet to torture and interrogate them. Or Anna. I maintain that she's a feisty one.
It's possible HG gave it to him.
If not:
1) HG would have to either be selling to anyone (and our killers just happened to turn up which is a bit unliely
or
2) HG was specifically asked to steal the C6 which indicates they knew who was in the list and they need an inside contact.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:09 pm
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