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Chris-uk
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Joined: 05 May 2006
Posts: 24

 		ok
Found something a little strange....Im new so I dont know if it has been mentioned before....

In your address bar type:

alvar.hansoSPLATthehansofoundation.org

See what happens...I tried it with other board members names, but only hanso's brings up the loading image

*edit*....hmmm, it brought up a loading gif image with the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42 used as the percentage loaded....its not working now though...nvmd!

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:16 pm
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pk1
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Joined: 04 May 2006
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 		orginal post deleted by request.

i tried to get into the hugh mcintyre account on monster.com, which isnt really playing by the rules.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:34 pm
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Lamar
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Joined: 03 May 2006
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Manchot wrote:
Sorry, but just because Alvar Hanso and the Dharma Initiative haven't been mentioned on the show in the UK yet, I can't see why we should spoler tag it. This whole ARG is a spoiler for you at the moment, so maybe you should avoid playing it until the UK version at least mentions Hanso?


Refering to anything about the Hanso group that's uncovered solely on the show should be spoiler taged. No matter which eppisode or season it comes from. My comment was not directed at Hanso, but other spoilers from the TV show that have appeared in cleartext.

The Lost Experience has been self contained, and has NOT contained season two spoilers. Please don't add any of your own. It pisses people off and spoils thier enjoyment of the show. There's no real reason for you to object since it's so easy to spoiler tag.

ps. Stop being so arogant to assume that us in the UK are simply a second thought. As I mentioned, this game ORIGINATES IN THE UK.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:39 pm
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Lamar
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Joined: 03 May 2006
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Xanther Wolf wrote:
Howdy again!

Firstly, those of us in the UK who watched the E4 broadcast are up to date with the states...


No they are not, there are a whole lot of US aired season 2 eppisodes yet to air in the UK. (E4 or C4) For reasons already stated, it's a good idea to spoiler tag anything from the TV show anyway.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:45 pm
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adrenjarvi
Greenhorn

Joined: 06 May 2006
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 		elcome to Monster, Hugh Mcintyre.
Your request has been queued.You are first in the queue.
Your request has been delivered to an agent.
You are connected to an agent.

Received:Hi Hugh
Received:Thank you for contacting Monster, my name is Jayashree, how may I help you?
Sent:hello, this is my third time through this process. I need to get to my account and access it through my username.
Received:Okay..
Received:I will be glad to assist you with that.
Received:May I have your full name and email address, please?
Sent:Hugh Mcintyre, hugh.mcintyreSPLATthehansofoundation.com
Received:Thank you..
Sent:I meant access through my new e-mail *
Received:Please give me a moment while I locate your account details.
Received:Alright..
Received:Do you want me to update your new email address in your Monster account?
Sent:either that or provide me with a new password.
Sent:to my new e-mail
Sent:the password would be phenominal, I believe someone has changed it on me.
Received:Sure..
Received:Please give me a moment while I check this for you.
Received:Hugh, May I have your username please?
Sent:my username stopped working, I believe it was also changed. to be honest, I jsut don't remember anymore.
Received:Okay..
Received:Please give me a moment..
Sent:I do know of a resume of mine on the site. it is listed as "Hanso exec seeks future". I posted this not two days ago...
Received:Thank you for your time and patience..
Received:Could you please confirm your street address and telephone number for verification purpose?
Sent:No problem. it is frustrating sometimes. if you do this for me, give me the name of your supervisor, i'd like to tell him about your superior service.
Sent:the telephone number is (206)-861-5017, as for the adress - my former employer actually registered this for me. It is either his house in west viriginia, or company headquarters out in copenhagen. to tell the truth, I don't know the exact number of either.
Sent:copenhagen has such odd adresses.
Received:Hugh did you reside inChuchville
Sent:chuchville or churchville?
Received:or Wenonah?
Sent:what state?
Received:Pa
Received:Churchville PA
Sent:that would be my employers adress, he set up the account for me. I have no clue where he lives, exactly. make that former employer.
Sent:with all this confusion you can see why I left.


it was here that they said I should make my own resume. however, the churchville PA thing is something to go off of. I may try again . it is of matter to note that my second person what, in fact, feroz Very Happy

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:12 pm
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chippy
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Lamar wrote:
As I mentioned, this game ORIGINATES IN THE UK.

no. it may have started with an advert on uk telly, but that does not mean it originates in the uk (and less bold shouting please)
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:16 pm
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Lamar
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Joined: 03 May 2006
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 		Please, please, don't mess around with things that are obviously not in-game.

"Social Engineering" someone at monster.com's customer support is very unethical, and totaly out of game.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:19 pm
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CrispyG4
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Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Posts: 115
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 		Ok, for you people new to ARGs, or perhaps just kinda dense, PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO BRUTE FORCE OR SOCIAL ENGINEER YOURSELF INTO OUT OF GAME ACCOUNTS. You don't f**king belong there, get over it. The PMs will make something in game when they feel like it, so don't go out of yours and everyone else's way to try and create your own in game content. You do not belong in the monster account. at all. don't try.

What many of you do not realize, and you may be new to ARGs, is that you have to WAIT. There will NOT be new content to be found 24/7. There will (most likely) be one or two days a week in which the site is updated with info, puzzles, new press releases, etc. Until those days, you have to wait. I know it's going to kill you, and probably lose some people in the process, but this same junk happened with ILB. I'm very sorry to say, but just chill out with trying to Brute Force your way into things that you don't belong in.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:19 pm
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adrenjarvi
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 		I am sorry, I thought this is what we are supposed to do. I am not trying to break the game by any means, my mistake. My first ARG i am totally active in. My bad, I apologize.

I am sorry, again. I assumed that the puppetmasters wanted us to see his monster resume - and because his e-mail and phone are both those things we know, I thought that we were supposed to figure it out on our own and get in using these. The lack of ethics hit me, but to some extent I figured they might be " In on it."

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:22 pm
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Chris-uk
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Joined: 05 May 2006
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 		Exec bios
Probably useless, but why is Thomas Mittelwer the only person on the exec bios to have a signature? It looks pasted on........

Any ideas?

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:25 pm
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pk1
Boot

Joined: 04 May 2006
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 		yes, apologies for that. i wasn't trying to jump ahead or ruin the game for anyone, just thought maybe it was the logical step forward. sorry!

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:25 pm
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catherwood
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002
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Location: Silicon Valley, CA

 		going out of bounds
adrenjarvi wrote:
I assumed that the puppetmasters wanted us to see his monster resume...

Some ARGs can plant clues in our real world. We've see fake job openings posted on craigslist.org and asteroids for sale on eBay. However, any real clue planted in the "outside" world will have a more definite, confirmable, undeniable sign that it is a link and not a coincidence. For example, any info posted on Monster could be a legitimate company -- there really is a Hanso corporation -- but only if you found "The Hanso Foundation" would it be an ingame link. There wouldn't be subtle hints, but details that you *already* recognize. Don't expect NEW info on a real world site, but rather things which lead you BACK to the ingame sites to find new details hidden there.

I hope that helps. I won't berate or belittle anyone for being creative and/or gullible in their approach, so I hope we can all be gentle in granting people a reality check when they need it.

Thank you.

(added later)
p.s. -- I haven't seen these items in their entirety yet. There may be a level of detail there that makes a better connection than I first thought. But I think of an ARG as a role-playing game in which you ARE you, that's your role. My real life position does not allow me to access a resume/CV on monster.com -- and The Lost Experience has not handed me the tools to do so. I think we're all still in the early stages of seeing just how much outside cooperation this game will require of us, as a team.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:35 pm
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adrenjarvi
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 		well the links would be the following:

A monster.com ad during the hanso phonecall
the fact that hugh.mcintyreSPLATthehansofoundation.org is a registered e-mail at monster.com
and the position that the monster.com resume is listed as "previously held" is the same (word for word) as that of Hugh mcintyre.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:43 pm
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puma88
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adrenjarvi wrote:
well the links would be the following:

A monster.com ad during the hanso phonecall
the fact that hugh.mcintyreSPLATthehansofoundation.org is a registered e-mail at monster.com
and the position that the monster.com resume is listed as "previously held" is the same (word for word) as that of Hugh mcintyre.


maybe its just a piece of ingame info we'll discover later...like mcintyre didnt agree with hanso's practices and was fired...so to tell the people playing the args this they post a ad for his job....simple.

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macnbc
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Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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adrenjarvi wrote:
well the links would be the following:

A monster.com ad during the hanso phonecall
the fact that hugh.mcintyreSPLATthehansofoundation.org is a registered e-mail at monster.com
and the position that the monster.com resume is listed as "previously held" is the same (word for word) as that of Hugh mcintyre.


Adrenjarvi,

It sounds to me that you're trying to justify a curtain violation, this is not going to score you brownie points around here.

Fact is, monster.com is a real company in the real world. Trying to pose as somebody else is FRAUD, which is a REAL crime. The first rule of ARGs is never to break the law in the real world. Hacking into someone's account on an in-game site is fine, hacking into an account on say, eBay or Amazon.com or Monster.com is NOT.

I suggest you re-examine your practices before you get yourself in REAL trouble.

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:56 pm
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