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[OOG] http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/ and Paik-heavy.com
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xenostar
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catherwood wrote:
Some will be up front about it, with disclaimers in fine print or hidden in source code; others will gladly try to pretend to be official.

Sorry if i sound a bit annoyed. It's not you, it's them for causing this confusion.


I'm sorry I got excited. Thank you for being a little more courteous than the second person. And I understand your annoyance as it would annoy me if I was more intune to it. Do you happen to know where the info on these being determined OOG would be?

jamesi wrote:
f I put up a site with that link on it, would my site be in-game? No.

And, once again I will say, with no evidence that these sites are part of the game design, I would call them OOG sites.


No. But the fact that you put the info up on your site doesn't discredit the info. If you'd read the first scenetence I was quite aware of the possibility that this was discovered already. A simple link would have sufficed. Please keep snide remarks to yourself. This is a game afterall, and sportsmanship will get you further.

To your second point, I would say that without proper information leading in the opposite direction you can not classify them as out of the game either. If you have information debunking them that is a different story. Please update this thread if you do.

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jamesi
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xenostar wrote:
To your second point, I would say that without proper information leading in the opposite direction you can not classify them as out of the game either. If you have information debunking them that is a different story. Please update this thread if you do.


Sorry, but after careful thought (I replied to your concerns about my snide remarks in private, as is customary and polite) I don't think we should be classifying sites as in-game based on lack of identifying features. With this game in particular, I think we should be very careful what we designate as in-game sites, based on two aspects:

(1) There are a ton of fansites out there dedicated to the Lost universe which could, at first glance, appear to be in-game.

(2) The previous attempt at a Lost ARG-style game (connected with bigspaceship, iirc) means that there is a lot of cryptic Lost-related information still kicking around out there.

Corrupting our efforts here with disinformation gathered at fansites that don't tie in directly to the Lost Experience (as was commissioned by the producers of Lost) just seems like a bad idea. If you want me to spend the time dissecting the blogs you linked to, then I'll do it, and update this thread as you have requested. But I'm certainly not enjoying the thought, and so I propose that we err on the side of caution when identifying sites as in-game, rather than take your approach of all-inclusive-until-proven-OOG.
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MrBeefy
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 		I just got an email from that site and "he" wants me to post a new paik-heavy link to as many websites as I can...

Anyway, the new link reroutes through a data collection hub (e2ma) so I'm not even going to bother.

As far as I can tell, the whole point of the paik-heavy.com OOG site seems to be to take advantage of the LOST experience's press, and gather as many profiles/emails as possible for their own spammy means.

be warned. I'm wishing I hadn't submitted my email now.

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Grand Theft Autumn
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 		Well, just add paik-heavy to your spamfilter. If they send you something interesting?

Oh well.

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Grand Theft Autumn
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 		Echoing a sentiment made by Mr. Beefy a few posts ago, I would be very wary about giving any sort of information to the paik-heavy site, for now.
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trillian0921
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 		I got the same email. Jerks.

Just replied to note: I created a new e-mail account specifically for signing up for things like this. Still, it's a bit annoying.

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Runeix
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 		i emailed one of the sites and this site emailed back with a link to "slow air demo" http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php
is it a clue???

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MrBeefy
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Runeix wrote:
is it a clue???


More reading of this very thread will give you the answer you are seeking.

Consider it your own custom designed quest... a personal ARG just for Runeix... and there's only 2 possible pages to read where the answer can be found!

Get your Sherlock Holmes hat on!
See if you can uncover the mystery within! yayfun!

Good luck, and let us know if you need more help.

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Aya
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MrBeefy wrote:


More reading of this very thread will give you the answer you are seeking.

Consider it your own custom designed quest... a personal ARG just for Runeix... and there's only 2 possible pages to read where the answer can be found!

Get your Sherlock Holmes hat on!
See if you can uncover the mystery within! yayfun!

Good luck, and let us know if you need more help.


Ahahahahahaha, you're funny XD
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 		I added this site to my RSS reader just to keep tabs on what they are doing over there. Today's update coincides strangely with the Thompson bio update.

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The frontpage reads:

The requested URL /_ was not found on this server.

The underscore is a link to:
www.paik-heavy.com/50-65-72-73-65-70-68-6f-6e-65.php
(page name is hexadecimal for persephone)

The first time you hit that link you get this ASCii :
80 101 114 115 101 112 104 111 110 101
which translates to persephone.

If you return to the frontpage of p-h.com the source code contains a link to:
http://www.paik-heavy.com/inner-headset.php
which you can reveal by clicking "select all" - it highlights a blank line two lines below "The requested URL /_ was not found on this server." This blank line is the live link to the inner-headset page.

Curiously, this link merely redirects to the p-h.com homepage. However, if you click the link in the underscore the message at the next page (still linking to 50-65-72-73-65-70-68-6f-6e-65.php) has changed to: 83 111 109 101 32 76 111 116 117 115
which spells: Some Lotus

If you return to the homepage and try the underscore link again, you get a new code at the next page:
72 101 114 111 110 32 71 108 111 119
which translates to:
Heron Glow

Repeating the process, the underscore link directs you to yet another code:
67 104 97 114 108 101 115 32 87 105 100 109 111 114 101
Which translates to:
Charles Widmore

Repeating a fifth time, the ASCii is:
77 105 115 108 101 97 100 105 110 103
which translates to:
Misleading

After this it seems to loop through the same 5 messages again. If you continue to cycle through, eventually you get a page of text that reads:
Persephone will lead you astray. Find another source.

Interesting. Wonder if that text is supposed to be hard to find, or if I was unlucky in the random shuffling.

1) Why does returning to the same page give you different results?
-If you "View Source" on the homepage you will see green numbers - these are different each time you load the page, hence different links. I tracked this number for a few cycles and they don't seem to repeat - in other words, there is more than one green number that links to each of the messages.

2) Reloading the homepage p-h.com cycles the links, as does clicking the inner-headset.php redirect link.

3) The Messages are:
Persephone
Heron Glow
Some Lotus
Charles Widmore
Misleading

Persephone will lead you astray. Find another source.


Finally, how it ties in to today's Thompson's bio update:
The paik-heavy site and phi-eri are supposedly maintained by Peter Thompson. Today's Persephone hack discredits Thompson. Thompson rebuts on paik-heavy.

Interestingly, earlier this week the phi-eri blog had an update in binary, titled "Fraud" with the body spelling out "http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/pthompso/"
I commented on this entry, calling the poster (Thompson) a fraud. I actually got a reply in the next comment: Wait and see.

This may be OOG, but whoever is doing it is updating really fast and tying in their crap with the real game very well.

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Gus Raja
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chief wrote:


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3) The Messages are:
Persephone
Heron Glow
Some Lotus
Charles Widmore
Misleading

Persephone will lead you astray. Find another source.



Hmm...

"Heron Glow" is a simple anagram for "Wrong Hole." Might that have something to do with Persephone's clue about the mouse? Speaking of the mouse, "Some Lotus" is a simple anagram for "Lost Mouse."

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Gus Raja wrote:
chief wrote:


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3) The Messages are:
Persephone
Heron Glow
Some Lotus
Charles Widmore
Misleading

Persephone will lead you astray. Find another source.



Hmm...

"Heron Glow" is a simple anagram for "Wrong Hole." Might that have something to do with Persephone's clue about the mouse? Speaking of the mouse, "Some Lotus" is a simple anagram for "Lost Mouse."


Right on the anagrams. So Persephone is a lost mouse, wrong hole, misleading. But one of these things is not like the others - the Widmore reference. Are we being directed towards him?
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Gus Raja
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chief wrote:
Gus Raja wrote:
chief wrote:


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3) The Messages are:
Persephone
Heron Glow
Some Lotus
Charles Widmore
Misleading

Persephone will lead you astray. Find another source.



Hmm...

"Heron Glow" is a simple anagram for "Wrong Hole." Might that have something to do with Persephone's clue about the mouse? Speaking of the mouse, "Some Lotus" is a simple anagram for "Lost Mouse."


Right on the anagrams. So Persephone is a lost mouse, wrong hole, misleading. But one of these things is not like the others - the Widmore reference. Are we being directed towards him?



On the "Psi-Eri" blog, Fandango mentioned that he was going to check out the two Widmore websites. I tried asking him (using base64 just to mix it up), what sites he was referring to, but mine is the last entry commenting to "Update." Does anyone know what the various Widmore sites are?

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 		look

Guys, keep your heads out of those sites, many of them are fishing for your data. As I'm sure it has already been said a dozen times in this thread and all the others.

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