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[NEW SITE] Silburn-Griggs Mines
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FinalSpin
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 		what is D/S
Here is some info I found on what DS could mean.

Some of the terms came from this site, which is on coal mining not copper.
http://website.lineone.net/~coalmining/index-page17.html

Drop shaft or Drop pit. - A shaft underground between two seams which does not come to the surface. The shafts were used to lower coal to the level of the base of the winding shaft this allowed all the coal produced in the mine to be wound up the shaft from a single loading point. See also Blind pit, Cut and Staple.

Dull. Slack ventilation, where insufficient air is entering the mine

Drop sheets. - Doors constructed of 'brattice cloth' to control ventilation.

Draw slate - A soft slate, shale, or rock from approximately 1 cm to 10 cm thick and located immediately above certain coal seams, which falls quite easily when the coal support is withdrawn.

Given that the two D/S's are close to the surface but don't break through and on top of each other

I'm putting my money on a Drop Shaft or Drop Sheet.

If it's Draw Slate, we should tell Kurt not to pull down any supports in the area. Although I'd imagine that's a really bad idea anywhere in a mine

I'm sure there are many more things that D/S could be.

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baf wrote:
Seems to me that we shouldn't take this business of "wearing" colors too literally. It's probably just the way that the miners remembered a color sequence of some importance -- color-coded buttons or signposts or something. Talking about what colors people wore is just an easy way to work those colors into the song without coming right out and saying what they're for.


That's what I assumed as well Baf, it's just a bit of fun to think Kurt might suffer a horrible death because he was wearing red or something Wink
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 		Re: what is D/S
FinalSpin wrote:
Given that the two D/S's are close to the surface but don't break through and on top of each other

I'm putting my money on a Drop Shaft or Drop Sheet.


Great work Finalspin!! I'd agree that drop shaft sounds the most likely from the setup on the map. Has anyone sent the map to Kurt with our findings yet?
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FinalSpin
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 		Could the Cross Hatched areas be water? The lower of section the drawing almost shows barriers that are holding the water back from flooding the rest of the mine.

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ThusQED
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 		So for future reference for tomorrow's event-thing:

Color: Dark Green
Cause of death: Suffocation/ inability to breathe
Possible cause: lack of oxygen


Color: Red
Cause of death: Electrocution
Possible cause: Open wires? The ore establishing a circuit with wires that are in place, causing electrocution to whoever touches them?

Color: Blue
Cause of death: Gas poisoning
Possible cause: Methane or some similar gas in the mine area


Those colors probably relate to signs or warnings.

The other problems in the mining song include:
Rockfalls and burned feet.
Rockfalls are self-explanatory. The burned feet relates to super-heated rocks? It is doubtful there'd be lava in a mine but geothermals of some sort could result in the same problem. Wearing non-"light boots" fixes the problem so perhaps it's not that hot...

It's too bad Violet hasn't given us more information from that book she read about the mines.

Let's hope that they'll end up all right,
In the Mines,
O' in the mines.

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isca
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 		From silburn-griggs website:
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This include drawings, chisels, maps, hazard suits(to protect against gas, chemical leeks, fire, flood, radiation, electricution, and rocks), ferrogramatographs, piping journals and even cooking utensles from the underground living quarters.


A combination of hazards may be present. e.g suffocation from flooding, chemical leeks, fire, gas. Radiation may cause liquid to boil, rocks to heat up...


Also it says:
Quote:
The mine is in a state of disrepair and significant funds will be needed to clear rockfalls


We can expect rocks blocking our path. This occasionally happens in the batcave. Laughing

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isca wrote:
We can expect rocks blocking our path. This occasionally happens in the batcave. Laughing


You'd think with a millionaire running the ops in the batcave we wouldn't have that problem but *sigh* it happens. Wink
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 		[EDIT] beglee + alcohol + Irish sporting success + more alcohol + laptop = frivalous forum posts! Smile

Now removed, and apologies to those who read them Smile

WOO Munster!!!! Laughing
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 		Laughing Laughing - congrats beglee Smile

And also Laughing at the site, truly among the worst I've seen Laughing

On a more game related tangent... It's probably a red herring, but I'll post it anyway just in case. Both of the map images flag up as stegged using Outguess when I check them with Stegdetect, even at very low thresholds (down to 0.14 with mymap.jpg). I've tried them with 3p and 3power as the password (yeah, I know, obvious Rolling Eyes ) with no joy, but if anyone fancies trying something else...

If you want to follow me down this particular blind alley, be aware that the nature of the images may well lead to false positives.That said, they really are very low thresholds that the images are flagging at.

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beglee wrote:
its very possible that im drunk right now, and stuck watching the eurovision before i head on to another pub (P.S. go on the Munster, Heineken Cup champions, ohhhh yeah!!!!! Rock On), but that has to be the worst looking site ive ever seen, n if i didnt know any better id say that the site was a total fabrication!

I feel i should apologise pre-emptively, because i didnt read a word of this thread, made a snap decision about the crapiness of the site, and have had way too much to drink because of Munster's greatness!! Gooo on the Stringer!!!

SO, please ignore this until i remove it out of embarassment tomorrow when im sober!!!


WOOOOOOOO BEEEEEERRRRRRR!!!!!!! (wheres the drunk emoticon when you need it Smile )


what did you learn at school today
that's what the teachers used to say
but they don't know
don't understand, do they
why do they always give advice
saying just be nice, always think twice
when it's been a long time since they had a teenage life

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 		It's all about the Hard Rock! Hallelujah! Soooo pleased Finland won! Very Happy

Flynn - I've got no idea what you're actually talking about, can you explain for me please??
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Flynn - I've got no idea what you're actually talking about, can you explain for me please??


Firstly - the Rawk won. Yay! Rock On

As for explaining what I'm on about - do a Google for steganogrophy. Very basically, it's hiding data inside other, irrelevant, data. Text hidden within an image is the most common kind. Stegdetect is a program that checks image files for this.

Stegdetect is (probably) the most used program to analyse images for stegging, and Outguess is a program from the same people that made Stegdetect, that looks for stegging.

Does this make sense? Alcohol + Eurovision can do strange things to a man...

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 		Thank you!
Thanks Flynn, that all makes much more sense now - I'm off to go learn about stegging then! Very Happy
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GregT
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Snowball wrote:
D/S - Spec is rife! a few possibles Drill Strage, Drive Shaft (!) - D/S is mentioned in mining docs Googled but no indication as to what it abbreviates.


Quite clearly it's either where they hide their Nintendo handhelds, or the area they have marked out for undertaking certain sex activities. Either way, Kurt's in for a fun Sunday!

BTW has anyone tried anagramming the names in the poem? They're just crying out "fake name". I mean, who would be so cruel as to name a child Bertie Gangue?

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GregT
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 		On the topic of anagrams, probably not. Here are some of the more promising ones for Bertie. None of them particularly scream we're on the right track.

Bertie Gangue:
Generate Bug I
Teenager Bug I
Engage Beirut
Negate Bug Ire
Gage Be Uniter
Gauge Be Inert
Gauge In Beret
Big Gate Neer U (following the poor spelling)
Rub Gate, Genie
Near Egg Tube I
Beige Tear Gun

Unless anyone wants to trawl through the options for Clem Devine?

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