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enigma_x
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 		Okay, random thoughts/observations:

1) I printed the image, and, as far as I can tell, it isn't an anamorphosis. My printer does suck though, so someone who has access to a laser printer might want to try it.
2) The source code of the page the image is on is both (partially) standards compliant and lazily coded. Although it is lacking any opening/closing tags (ie <html>, <head>, etc.), the one <img> tag does have a closing slash, which is generally only done by programmers who are being XHTML compliant. It just seemed odd to me, but I'm 99.99% sure it means nothing.
3) When I saw this image, the first thing that came to mind was that it had been, well, "de-faced," while the THF website itself had been defaced, also.

So.... yeah.
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theonetruebix wrote:
dmax wrote:
Lucent wrote:
Speaker over at insidetheexperience.com (who is an official source) says that "we're looking at the image the wrong way".


Link to that, please? I would want to see the exact wording.


*bangs head on desk*

I've given the exact wording twice in this thread.

http://www.insidetheexperience.com/2006/05/a_couple_of_thi.html

"People have finally found this. But they're not looking at it correctly."


/me bangs theonetruebix's head on the desk

I would still like to read the source. If you could link to the post that you're referencing at the time, it would help.

Much obliged.
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 		Re: stretched image?
lokic wrote:
I'm wondering if perhaps this picture is an anamorphosis. That's a fancy name for "image you can only see by viewing it from an extreme angle." One of the most famous of these is this painting. There is a wierd, tilted white shape at the bottom, that is clearly a human skull, if you look at the painting up close, and from the bottom-left corner.

Long story short, can someone print this image out, and then look at it from the top and bottom, with the paper tilted almost parallel to your eyes? I would if I had a printer.


I only have very simple image software, but I thought of this angle (haha) earlier and tried the stretch and skew functions with no results. However printing and then tilting would be different.

Anyone got a sharp printer?

Oh and it seems totally clear at this point (in fact several hours ago, thanks fred_bled) that the polar coordinates thing is bollocks. Anyone having any luck with b!X's anagram idea?
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Even though the lines show up in any image, that COULD be the point...

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 		Re: stretched image?
chief wrote:
Anyone got a sharp printer?


Printed it on my work laser printer (yep, I'm really focussing on my work today) and I couldn't see anything :/ could be wrong though...
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 		Re: stretched image?
Aya wrote:
chief wrote:
Anyone got a sharp printer?


Printed it on my work laser printer (yep, I'm really focussing on my work today) and I couldn't see anything :/ could be wrong though...



One way of hiding info is to have a bit of information so densely placed that it appears to be a square but is, for instance, a paragraph. Or, something so light that it appears to be white.

When I open the gif in Photoshop, it tells me that there are two colors (no grays in between) and then, at 600% size, I scanned over the image for something that wasn't a simply white or dark square and found nothing. (You're welcome to duplicate if you think I missed something).

I think we need to otherwise manipulate the photo - bend/distort? Not sure. I was very suspicious of those errant dots at the edge of the picture, but don't know yet what they tell us.

Also, there's an area at the right front cheek that seems unusually bright. I wonder about that area as well.
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 		Re: stretched image?
I still think someone has just gone to town on a photo with the Graphic Pen filter in Photoshop Very Happy
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 		Just for kicks, the color used in the image is 7c7c7c in hex or 124 124 124 in decimal. It seemed strange to me that it wouldn't be black, or at least a web-safe color of gray.
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Gus Raja wrote:
I sure this is nothing, but just in case I'll mention it. Looking around the outskirts of this picture are verical lines. Can these lines possibly be read like "bar code" like when they scan items at a store?


Those lines come from the very bottom row of pixels in the original picture. I tried decoding them as binary but didn't get anything. It's possible they're coded another way, but probably not.

I'm still not conviced the polar transformation is complete bollocks, as you brits would say. The rays aren't the only defining feature. Here's a side by side comparison of the face and elephant. This was made by erasing the rays and frame from the polar version and then transforming back to rectangular coordinates. I'd say it's weird that the shadows on the face would make such well defined elephantine features like the end of the trunk and the legs.

Edit: I don't spell Brittish.
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Lyria wrote:
theonetruebix wrote:
qninealstwothousandtwo


Whew, that makes a lot of anagrams! I didn't see anything that screamed "solution!" to me (maybe someone else does?) but I did see "Hanso downs twin tale quot" - which I'm sure is nonsense, as it'd require adding in an "e" to make "quote", but it reminded me of the Gary Troup book (a "twin tale"... Smile



Hmm...

Maybe,

Lost Twin Outed Hanso Qwan


Edit: I was thinking the book was "Lost Twin," but it's actually "Bad Twin." But maybe it says something about Hanso's lost twin. This is a tough one because there are litereally tens of thousands of possible anagrams.

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Etymologician wrote:
I'm still not conviced the polar transformation is complete bollacks, as you brits would say.


I'm not a brit, and to me the polar transformation method seems like complete bollocks...as does the spotting of letters and words in the hair.

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Lucy wrote:
Etymologician wrote:
I'm still not conviced the polar transformation is complete bollacks, as you brits would say.


I'm not a brit, and to me the polar transformation method seems like complete bollocks...as does the spotting of letters and words in the hair.


I agree with you Lucy :/
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theonetruebix wrote:
"Hanso lets down twin quota."

Here's what I could find tonight, focusing on anagrams that included "Hanso" and "twin" (plus a few others):
- Hanso quest lit a downtown
- Hanso squatted low on twin (like attacking "Bad Twin"?)
- Hanso lad quotes town twin (just made me laugh)
- Hanso twin land quotes two
- Hanso twin won't load quest
- Hanso twins don't equal two (maybe there's more than 2?)
- Twos don't equal Hanso twin
- Dots won't equal Hanso twin ("dots"=pixels in image Smile)
- Hanso quoted twin, won last
- Hanso last quoted own twin (this is the one that really interests me)
- Hanso told twin swan quote

None of them look truly helpful... but B!x, you're not the only one still looking at them! Smile

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lostviolinist wrote:
als2002: to me seems to obvious to say "alvo last seen 2002"; persephone already showed us his last travel plans. Plus it ignore q9. Perhaps we're simply spinning our wheels and this will all make complete sense when something else shows up.



You could be right, but if "Alvar last seen 2002" is the clue, maybe we should look into that clue just a little more. When you click on the dates from that clue, all of his trips take place in a relatively short time frame from June 2000 to September 2001, except for the second to last entry that's dated January 2001 (or is that a typo missing the second digit after the 1 for the month) seemingly going backwards in time. You then have over a year gap to the last entry being Madrid, December 31st, 2002 which apparently is when he was last seen except that his picture is dated September 2003.

At any rate, if there is anything to this being the clue, then it seems to point to "Madrid, 31/12/2002." Exploring this for a second, why was he last seen in Spain of all places? Nothing else points to Spain that I'm aware of. I can't find any connection between "Q9" and "Madrid" though. "Q9" in virtually every instance just means "Question #9."

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Gus Raja wrote:
except for the second to last entry that's dated January 2001 (or is that a typo missing the second digit after the 1 for the month)


Except it isn't missing a digit. It's written in full, 01.01.2001.
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