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Jaeneas
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Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Leicester, England.
[SPEC] Counterpoint What if Counterpoint is a version of what happened to end the War with Anjsbourg and the Cube was developed and used to control the landscape against the enemy.
Much of the descriptons of the landsacpe of the surrounding areas to Perplex City are described as barren, by Scarlett, Kurt etc.
Many things seem to happen underground. Scarlett found a secret base at Viendenbourg where there seemed to be mining, Kurt finds a 3P hideout in the underground and now Miranda is headed towards more mines.
Perhaps even the the Whipsmart cows have been affected. 3P poisoning the grass so that Perplex City is dumbed down over the summer.
Perhaps I should have a little lie down and think about something else for a while.
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:09 pm
Tintintin
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Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 137 Location: London
Oooh, that's a fascinating thought. It would explain (or give context to) both the Perplexians' mainly collaborative rather than antagonistic approach to adversity, and their abhorrence of violence and conflict.
It's interesting certainly that this is as close as we've seen to Perplexian military thinking thus far...
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:33 pm
e_nygma
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Joined: 17 May 2006 Posts: 247 Location: Maryland, US
Tintintin wrote:
Oooh, that's a fascinating thought. It would explain (or give context to) both the Perplexians' mainly collaborative rather than antagonistic approach to adversity, and their abhorrence of violence and conflict.
It's interesting certainly that this is as close as we've seen to Perplexian military thinking thus far...
Puts new meaning in "the fog of war" if using your weapons radically changes the surrounding landscape.
"Bravo Platoon, go secure that hill just to our north."
"You mean that flat plain or the hill we're now standing on, Sarge?"
Also makes beseiging cities somewhat easier ... just sink them into a giant hole ... so that a certain family can excavate it some 270 years later to figure out what happened?
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:45 pm
Tintintin
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Perplex City Academy wrote:
Vaughn Mukherjee, Academy junior fellow in Games Theory, will talk about exogenous puzzle development, examining the controversial theory that many of Perplex City's most treasured puzzle forms in fact originate in the intellectual city of Machiantes.
Hmmm... Could this refer to Counterpoint? The pen-and-paper pre-computer-generated version, of course. Would that make Perplex City the aggressors a la young Kurt? And Machiantes the co-operative alternative?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:36 am
e_nygma
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Joined: 17 May 2006 Posts: 247 Location: Maryland, US
Tintintin wrote:
Perplex City Academy wrote:
Vaughn Mukherjee, Academy junior fellow in Games Theory, will talk about exogenous puzzle development, examining the controversial theory that many of Perplex City's most treasured puzzle forms in fact originate in the intellectual city of Machiantes.
Hmmm... Could this refer to Counterpoint? The pen-and-paper pre-computer-generated version, of course. Would that make Perplex City the aggressors a la young Kurt? And Machiantes the co-operative alternative?
Might we ask Violet to go sit in on this lecture? See if she can see if there is any merit to this, with the reason being that a bunch of things motivating 3P seem to have to do with the past and the war? Obviously Kurt would be the primary choice, but just as obvious he won't be available in the near future.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:06 pm
GregT
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Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 23
A game of double-bluff with your opponent behind a velvet curtain, where their actions cannot be perceived directly but instead inferred from the full context of the information flow? Sounds like Counterpoint players might find a home amongst ARG players... I often wonder if anything happening in Perplex City is really happening, or if we're all being jerked around like puppets by a single individual in control of the communications stream.
Imagine a legion of followers in an alternate dimension, trained to crack military encryption and devastate police response times on command - willing to jump through any bizarre hoop in return for a pat on the head and being told they're "helping". Cube? Who needs a cube, when you have an army of puzzle monkeys to commit your evil for you!
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:14 pm
EvilGenius
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Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 227 Location: Vancouver
GregT wrote:
I often wonder if anything happening in Perplex City is really happening
I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:35 pm
GregT
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EvilGenius wrote:
GregT wrote:
I often wonder if anything happening in Perplex City is really happening
I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that ;-)
Shush, I'll hear none of your lies. Perplex City is real, and I won't hear a word to the contrary. :x
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:51 pm
jenn2d2
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Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 4
I have been wracking my brain all day to try and remember what "Counterpoint" reminded me of, only to finally remember now that I'm at work and don't have access to my books.
From what I remember, in Peirs Anthony's Adept series, Stile participates in a tournament of games (to win citizenship on Proton). Each phase is a different, collectively chosen game from a set of criteria. One of them is like Counterpoint; in fact, the solution that Kurt gives as his entry to the Academy, is how that round concludes. The books are centered around two worlds which are essentially mirrors of one another, connected through a computer/oracle which is hidden in a maze. There are several ranges of adepts (like red, blue, brown, etc.) in both realms who have more power than others.
I'm not sure if this truly relates to this game, or if it is mere coincidence. The whole "two worlds" and the collection of different games things got me thinking though.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:08 pm
GregT
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The Adept series! I remember that! Those books were crazy. Do you think we're in any danger of Perplex City passing a law requiring the lower classes to be naked at all times?
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:07 pm
SpinneNetz
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Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 19
Dunno bout you all, but I would love to play this game.
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:51 am
achenar
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Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 112 Location: Newcastle, Australia
GregT wrote:
The Adept series! I remember that! Those books were crazy. Do you think we're in any danger of Perplex City passing a law requiring the lower classes to be naked at all times?
Tippy's not lower class, so no.
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:59 am
Jaeneas
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Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Leicester, England.
More conjecture based upon nothing more than too many late nights and Newcastle Brown Ale, (see 'Ales of the World'). Enjoy.....
The Cube is a weapon which destroys whole areas, from the Grainer diaries. "13 April 1736
Edwina has been busy with her calculations these three days. She tells me that she has taken many useful readings which go to prove what we have long suspected: the entire place will be destroyed. "
The Brotherhood fo the Six write ''''For does not the Cube show us the way in building, and was not Gyvann himself a builder and shall we not then build? Let us, therefore, build. And they built a great fortress, yet by the power of the Cube it was toppled to the ground, and they built a mighty tower, yet by the power of the Cube it was utterly removed, thus they built a lowly shack and it was good.'''
The Academy is using the playing of Counterpoint as an entry test.
Presuming (?!) that using the Cube is like playing counterpoint....
Are the Academy looking for people who would be good at playing Counterpoint, keeping track of a multitude of information, in order to train them to use the Cube?
So someone with a 'High score' (Insert Your Name Here....) Kurt, would be a shoe in for the job of Grand High Cube Wrangler. Possibly why Sente is keen to keep Kurt close.
I hope that the Cube can be used for good as well as evil. Maybe the Academy want to undo all the bad done previously and are digging for erm.. Cube Fuel, or something in Viendenbourg, obviously the old 3P stick in the muds are anti this, for some reason, and are throwing spanners in the works. Er.. is this bit a bit too far fetched?
I also hope that the corner shop has some more Dog, I'm really thirsty.
Ta Ra
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:00 pm
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