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[MEDIA] Hugh McIntyre to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live (May 24/25)
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Jenna
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As someone said up there, he's nervous, checking his notes and not remembering his lines because he's lying. Hugh constructed a few notes on what he will probably be asked, and a list of things he'd have to lie about, so he didn't let the truth slip or something.

Just theorising, of course
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cpasquini wrote:
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The way I see it is like this, there was no bad acting. The reason Hugh seemed so nervous and unconvincing is because he was lying on live TV.

I'm sure the creators of Lost could have afforded a convincing actor if they wanted/needed one but in this case it was meant to seem suspicious.


No way - the actor was really bad - he couldn't remember his lines and he was reading very poorly from notes on his desk. I understand that they were trying to adlib which is a good way to make it seem more real, but the guy could have studied up on some of the terminology and back story a little more - he was hired by ABC, so I am sure he could have been briefed by the show's producers.


No, I'm pretty sure that it was intentional. It was probably a device to make people check the site and so on.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:04 pm
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not to mention he' supposed to be a regular guy, not an actor on the Jimmy Kimmel show. I'm not worried about the acting on a talk show, now if that was lost, I'd be appalled.

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He isn't supposed to be a regular guy, he's supposed to be the Communications Director of a major corporation. He's the face and the voice of the Hanso Foundation. It's his job to do stuff like this interview and do it well. A person that represents something as large, and shady, as the Foundation would need to be able to lie convincingly and be charismatic while doing it.

To me it just looked like they hired someone who wasn't good at improvisation.

Edit: By "they" I mean ABC. I don't think he was being sketchy on purpose, I think he was doing a bad job at playing Hugh.

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WarlordPayne wrote:
He isn't supposed to be a regular guy, he's supposed to be the Communications Director of a major corporation. He's the face and the voice of the Hanso Foundation. It's his job to do stuff like this interview and do it well. A person that represents something as large, and shady, as the Foundation would need to be able to lie convincingly and be charismatic while doing it.

To me it just looked like they hired someone who wasn't good at improvisation.


As someone who has worked in TV, and who's wife works for a rival late night talk show. It looked like Jimmy Kimmel went off script, which happens all the time on live TV, and the actor did his best to stay on mesage.

it continues to boggle my mind how many people read so much into so little.

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Direct ABC Links

Given that YouTube will probably get yanked sooner rather than later ..

Better quality, ABC hosted version of the interview ..
http://abc.go.com/fsp/index.html?channel=JimmyKimmelLive&clip=108786

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I actually thought it was a skit it was so bad. He kept looking at the screen.

But it did make us guess what is real. Is the hanso game we are in taking place in a side universe that is different from the lost universe yet are attached? Are they trying to merge them into one world (all of them). I'm enjoying the tricks on reality. But for anyone not in game, very confusing.

I was pleased to see Hugh's picture taken down. It makes sense.

As for you UK players, you got the clues before us americans did, I suppose it is only fair for us to get something before you do too?

I'm wondering how far this rabbit hole goes

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cnote1500 wrote:

it continues to boggle my mind how many people read so much into so little.

Amen, Bruddah!!!

What... ultimately... is the goal of all of this?

There is no point to the "experience." It is not a game. There is no ending - no winner. The experience is not meant to cross over to the show.

The singular point and purpose to all of this is to string us along thru the summer again and get us to watch next season. This tells me the producers don't have enough faith in the show to let it stand on it's own as a good product that will bring people back. Which is not true IMO. Lost is a great show. All of this "game" stuff would make a fascinating addition to the show and would allow it to extend for future seasons.

The whole concept of the Kimmel thing was to draw new people into the "experience" It was merely cross promotional. More shameless advertising. (And I'll admit that I am dumbfounded that they actually presented a human being on the show)

Regardless... I'm pretty well over the "experience." Sad that they couldn't even hold my attention a week after the fianle aired. gonna be a long summer I suppose.

And when all is said and done, this whole thread has gone entirely META. Kimmel isn't "in-game" so much as just another advertisement for the experience. And the discussion is decidedly on-game, not in-game.

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was i the onlyone that noticed the picture on the wall behind hugh ?
its the sphere at disney world a blatent advertising ... ahhhh
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceship_Earth_%28Disney%29

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Spaceship_Earth_tiles_%28close%29
connection ? or just devient location where the live broadcast was coming from
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kimmel in an odd way is now part of the game due to his interaction or you could consider him a player just like us.
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cpababe wrote:

What... ultimately... is the goal of all of this?

There is no point to the "experience." It is not a game. There is no ending - no winner. The experience is not meant to cross over to the show.


Spoiler fun, baby!

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Rumour has it that the Lost Experience will be the place to reveal [sdthe specific importance of... THE NUMBERS!


So, sure, we won't find out about Jack and Zeke and Walt and all these people, but there are other factors at play. Things like Hanso and Paik Heavy Industries and Widmore... things that likely won't be connected on the show so you don't NEED to know, but things which heighten watching the show next season.

Also, I ask: If this game has no point, what was the point of the Beast or the Haunted Aviary? What was the point of Last Call Poker? They strung you along so that you'd watch a movie or play a video game. Same diff.

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The singular point and purpose to all of this is to string us along thru the summer again and get us to watch next season. This tells me the producers don't have enough faith in the show to let it stand on it's own as a good product that will bring people back. Which is not true IMO. Lost is a great show. All of this "game" stuff would make a fascinating addition to the show and would allow it to extend for future seasons.


Where are you getting this idea from? The fact that it's going on between the seasons in North America? The fact that there is advertising going on? I haven't seen anything in this game which screams "The producers don't have faith in their show." Perhaps you're looking at it backwards: Perhaps the point of the game is to get the information they COULDN'T get out, because it's just too much for the show to deal with.

I suggest to you that this experience has in fact been in the works since well before season 2 began. Bad Twin had been announced over the summer, and every time there's another interesting tidbit that pops up, you realize that they had been laying the groundwork for this game from the get-go of the season.

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The whole concept of the Kimmel thing was to draw new people into the "experience" It was merely cross promotional. More shameless advertising. (And I'll admit that I am dumbfounded that they actually presented a human being on the show)


Oh, far be it that a commercial game would want to bring players to itself, and did it in an In-Game manner. That is terribly shameful and they're bad for it.

Or... were they really smart about it? Sure, McIntyre was a bit weak on the improv, but the fact was that he appeared on the show. They spent the money building the set, getting on the show, writing the script, coming up with a semi-plausible reason for him to be there (and why his picture is different) and be in-game, and in general got the Experience a whole bunch of national publicity. How this is shameless and bad, I fail to see.

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Regardless... I'm pretty well over the "experience." Sad that they couldn't even hold my attention a week after the fianle aired. gonna be a long summer I suppose.


That's too bad, but understandable. Considering the game has been on for three weeks, and it's likely to stretch until September, I don't think we've even really gotten to the real story of it yet.

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And when all is said and done, this whole thread has gone entirely META. Kimmel isn't "in-game" so much as just another advertisement for the experience. And the discussion is decidedly on-game, not in-game.


I agree... maybe we should be merged into another thread, or just the tag changed. This is a META discussion. But I would still suggest that McIntyre's appearance on Kimmel, not Kimmel himself, was entirely In-Game, because he was playing, y'know, in-game.
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I didn't think the Hugh appearance was that bad. I give Kimmel credit for being willing to interview a fictious representative of a fictious company and doing it all with a straight face. As for Hugh's lack of professionalism - maybe they intentionally wanted the company to look a bit fake. Lots of the viewers would be assuming it was a real company - maybe they wanted them to know that something wasn't quite right. Whatever, I thought he did fine and I laughed out loud when he said that he found Lost confusing.

As for the in-game v. out-of-game debate - I am certain that this appearance is in-game. I also think we will be coming back to verify or question several of the statements made by Hugh:

that he has met Hanso and, presumably, knows where he is

that Dharma ended in 1987

that statements made in the book Bad Twin are incorrect

I suspect that Hugh and other in-game characters will be making other appearances on ABC shows in the future.

I don't think people should get too frustrated with this game too early. Clearly the PMs are a bit overwhelmed at this point. And, anyway, don't you want to know what happened to Hanso?
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Well said rose.
Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the first time in ARG history an in-game character ever appeared on a national talk-show?

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Static Disruption???

Ok, This may be nothing but did anyone TiVo the Jimmy Kimmel appearance? There was constant "satellite disruption" in the form of a greenish static that would occasionally intrude. Is it possible that there is a hidden picture or msg? It seems pretty likely to me, but you can't tell on the You Tube video. Someone try freeze framing on TiVo and report back!

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I Tivo'd it and played it back frame by frame. The static was primarily a white background with horizontal black lines on it. I suppose it could possibly have been some sort of code but there didn't seem to be a pattern to it. The lengths of the lines and distances between them looked more or less uniform.

The greenish static and other colors just looked like block noise.

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