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 		See, I would think that something would happen in 12 days, since Digitalis said that you might be able to count the number of days on two hands ... or maybe not. *snicker*

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massive wrote:
See, I would think that something would happen in 12 days, since Digitalis said that you might be able to count the number of days on two hands ... or maybe not. *snicker*


Then it would be 11 days: 6 fingers on one hand, 5 in the other one Wink Wink
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 		Re: [Update] Dale's Journal 6/15
enaxor wrote:
Dale wrote:

I awoke from my dream to find myself strapped to a hospital gurney, my entire body throbbing with pain, and my voice hoarse from screaming at the top of my lungs. In fact, I was still screaming, only I just wasn't making any sound anymore, the combination of strain to my throat and whatever they had injected me with preventing me from doing anything more than croak and groan.


This snippet comes from CTW1. After the Accident in Feb 2003 that killed Diana and Meaghan (the original result of Dale's wish) Dale was taken to the hospital with severe burns all over. That would explain the pain and the hospital equipment.
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Sandra wrote:

Also, in chat exaxor speculated that "six" that had to fall were the months of this year - meaning it would start after June was over. I like this interpretation better than mine. lol No people have to die. <g>


Oh, I didn't notice this before, but it was actually Chippy who spec'd about the months. Must give credit where due. Smile

I was thinking just this morning, Dale posted the poem for the first time on June 10th. June 11th was the sixth full moon of 2006.
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 		Smile It is nice to give credit where it is due.

As someone else speculated - the Spring Equinox is coming up and that might be the signal for all of this to break open. After all, it was the night that Mars was closest to the earth last time that things came to their conclusion. I'm not sure if there's any major celestial event coming up like that. It was when the Sun, Earth, and Mars were in a straight line and Mars was the closest it's been to earth for 60,000 years.

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Sandra wrote:
Smile It is nice to give credit where it is due.

As someone else speculated - the Spring Equinox is coming up and that might be the signal for all of this to break open. After all, it was the night that Mars was closest to the earth last time that things came to their conclusion. I'm not sure if there's any major celestial event coming up like that. It was when the Sun, Earth, and Mars were in a straight line and Mars was the closest it's been to earth for 60,000 years.


Spring Equinox has been here and gone. Smile

Summer Solstice is on June 21.

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 		::sigh:: Old age really is creeping in on me. Guess I'm going to have to proofread my posts for more than spelling mistakes.

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 		Dale's Journal 16 June
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June 16, 2006: I dreamt I was in a darkened room. It was hot and smoky and I was nervous, sweating profusely. There was a mixture of noises, indefinable but ever-present, from just beyond the walls, as if coming from another room. There were sounds of laughter and conversation, mixed with an undercurrent of pain and sadness.

I sat before a large desk, and a man with gray hair sat on the other side, his cold stare the major source of my discomfort. I tried to stand to leave but it was as if my legs just didn't work. The man across the desk smiled, as if enjoying my helplessness and fear.

It was then someone spoke, but to my surprise, the voice did not come from the man behind the desk at all, but from a face, human and seemingly alive in every way, except for the fact that it was hanging on the wall.

"What is man without knowledge?" the face asked, before it assumed a cold and whitish hue, its features locked into a solitary frozen expression. The gray haired man replied, "Man is nothing without knowledge, merely a thing to be controlled." As he said the final word he clasped his hand, drawing it into a tight fist, and the frozen face on the wall shattered, its pieces falling like tears to the floor.

Another voice spoke, from a face just beside where the first one had been. Again, like the first, it appeared totally real and alive as it asked, "What is man without history?" It too then froze into position, its skin assuming the color of cool porcelain. The man behind the desk answered without hesitation, "Man has no meaning or purpose without history, a tool without a use." The sound of the second face shattering punctuated the end of his reply.

"What is man without nature?" asked a third voice, to which the man responded, "He is weak and homeless and without roots, a plant to be destroyed by the slightest wind." Before the pieces of the third mask hit the ground, a fourth one had appeared and spoke. "What is man without progress?" "He is a mindless, helpless creature, reacting to whatever forces are imposed upon it in the same way, over and over again."

Another face was there upon the wall asking, "What is man without the sacred?" "Man is but a shell without belief in the sacred, insubstantial and empty, waiting to be crushed." The face shattered with a loud crack, exactly as the man said "crushed."

The man stood from his chair behind the desk, as one last face appeared on the wall behind him, speaking over his shoulder as it asked, "What is man without himself?" The gray haired man walked around the desk, approaching me slowly as he said, "A man without belief in himself is nothing, a fool who gives himself to wishes and desires." He stood directly before me, his eyes dark yet flickering slowly in the dim light, as if constantly shifting, changing. "A man without belief in himself is a pawn, worth more in sacrifice than life." As he said this he reached out and grasped my face with a cold and strong hand.

Somehow we were now in the center of Aglaura, or what was left of it. The town was in flames around us, with screams of pain echoing in the night. As he grasped my face in his hand, the gray haired man said, "A man without himself is not a man at all." With one impossibly strong squeeze, I felt my face shatter into a thousand pieces and crash to the floor.


I see six masks in this dream.

Edit to add:
I see Knowledge, History (both of which are masks that have been described by Sarah), Nature, Progress, Sacred (?Religion, Faith). Then the last mask being worn by Dale. Is this Mankind, Soul, Reality?
I am sure these are the six masks that were created by (and stolen from) Sarah.
And I think they are going to be used in some spiritual activity on June 21 (Summer Solstice) with Dale's reality taking a huge shift. Note that in Sarah's book, the last mask was the "perfect" mask of the baby - the princess' child - so another clue that the last mask was Mankind or Human.
I decided to email Dale & Sarah about this.
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 		And i see spec!

SPEC:

Alright, I agree with Konamouse's masks, and i'm advancing with them.

the first 2 are Knowledge and History, Sound familiar? they should, in Sarah's Blog, the masks are called Knowledge and History

Now, Seeing as that there are 5 things that are definitely masks, we get this

Mask of Knowledge
Mask of History
Mask of Nature
Mask of Progress
Mask of Sacred

But, where's the sixth suffix? Right there, Men, it says to me. so we get

Mask of Knowledge
Mask of History
Mask of Nature
Mask of Progress
Mask of Sacred
Mask of Men

So, what's important about all this?, let me show you

Mask of KnowledgE
Mask of HistorY
Mask of NaturE
Mask of ProgresS

We get Eyes, so, but we don't get Eyesdn, do we? so..

Mask of SacrED
Mask of (M)EN

EDEN.

So we got Eyes, and Eden, but what's in between? take a look

Mask of <SOMETHING>

we replace mask with Eyes and Something with Eden

Eyes of Eden.

Mysterious, no?

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Jetamo wrote:
And i see spec!

...

But, where's the sixth suffix? Right there, Men, it says to me. so we get
...
So, what's important about all this?, let me show you

Mask of KnowledgE
Mask of HistorY
Mask of NaturE
Mask of ProgresS

We get Eyes, so, but we don't get Eyesdn, do we? so..

Mask of SacrED
Mask of (M)EN

EDEN.
...we replace mask with Eyes and Something with Eden

Eyes of Eden.

Mysterious, no?


The first part about the masks is goos. But I think it's pushing it a bit to get the EYES EDEN out of that - because the words need to all be treated the same since there is nothing telling us to take specific letters.

I would call the last mask "Self Knowledge" or "Self Confidence" or "Introspection" rather than Men. Men to me implies mankind, and what Dale was told was to "know yourself, beleive in yourself, have faith in yourself."

Some research for thought:
Self-knowledge

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'Self-knowledge' is commonly used in philosophy to refer to knowledge of one's particular mental states, including one's beliefs, desires, and sensations. It is also sometimes used to refer to knowledge about a persisting self -- its ontological nature, identity conditions, or character traits. At least since Descartes, most philosophers have believed that self-knowledge is importantly different from knowledge of the world external to oneself, including others' thoughts. But there is little agreement about what precisely distinguishes self-knowledge from knowledge in other realms. Partially because of this disagreement, philosophers have endorsed competing accounts of how we acquire self-knowledge. These accounts have important consequences for the scope of mental content, for mental ontology, and for personal identity.


and

Quote:
The term 'introspection' -- literally, 'looking within' -- captures a traditional way of conceiving how we grasp our own mental states. This term expresses, in spatial language, a divide between an 'inner' world and an 'outer' or 'external' world. For most philosophers, the spatial connotations of this language are purely metaphorical: to say that a state or entity is internal to the mind is not to say that it falls within a given spatial boundary. If the distinction between what is within the mind and what lies outside of it were purely spatial, the difference between introspection and normal visual perception ('extrospection') would be trivial, simply a matter of looking in different directions. The term 'introspection' is standardly used to denote a method of knowing which is unique to self-knowledge and which differs from perception in important ways.


Edited to add Introspection to the list.
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 		Interesting thought, Magesteff...but probably not "SelfKnowledge" because there is already a Mask of Knowledge. Maybe just "Self"?
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konamouse wrote:
Interesting thought, Magesteff...but probably not "SelfKnowledge" because there is already a Mask of Knowledge. Maybe just "Self"?

*nod*
Self, Self-Image, Soul, any of these words could work. The kernal of truth that makes us an individual and unique.
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 		We now have the name of the masks.... putting here since that was where the discussion was happening....

From Sarah's blog June 17:
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Knowledge
History
Nature
Technology
Sacred
Man


Going with the last letter spec.... eye ydn .... eye widen? look closer? Shocked
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 		[update] Dales Journal June 17
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June 17, 2006: It has really been a crazy week (poor choice of words, perhaps) with work, interviews, and publicity-related stuff for Chasing The Wish. Not to mention starting to receive phone calls from fans of the comic. First though, I wanted to share with you one of the reviews people have started to send me of Book One. This is just one of many, and I'll be posting them all as soon as possible to a central page on this site, and probably to my www.synthasia.com website as well.

Name: Chasing the Wish Spring 2006 Book One
Publisher: New Fiction Comics
Written by: Dale Sprague
Other Creative Force: P. Emerson Williams, Jason Stackhouse, Jessika Kaos, William Hamilton
Website: www.new-fiction.com
Overviewed by: Paul Dale Roberts, Publisher www.jazmaonline.com
Comments: Let's take a trip to Klepsydra Mental Health Facility in Princeton, New Jersey...a place that came to the author's mind and come to find out, there is a place like this. Meet a magical being called The Wish who will grant that one wish for you. You may find yourself down and out and want to get out of a bind, make that one wish that will take all of your pain away. In this story, a boy is suicidal and he gets that one wish. In this comic book, there is some adult language, the artwork is quite unusual and sort of on the pastel side, but fits well with the story. There is a strange revelation...that someone made a wish, someone broke the universe! Dale Sprague is an unusual author and has come face-to-face with his dreams..but are they dreams? Are they visions? Why does he experience deja vu, he reads deep into his dreams and gives you his nightmares! Chasing the Wish is riveting! Remind me never to sleep at Dale Sprague's home, nor even a Motel 6 near his home, Dale Sprague has a scary mind. You will ask yourself, where is the line between fact and fiction?

Brief but good, so I'm certainly not going to complain. I think my favorite line is, "Dale Sprague has a scary mind." My god, if only he knew. But at least I'm not running from it anymore.

Tomorrow I am going out to Ash Grove Park, to track down this Digitalis who seems to be somehow intertwined with this whole thing. That's after I get together with Sam and Sarah, to plot out some last minute strategies over the Library situation. Hopefully Sam will have time; she's had her hands full with Iris (and now Phyllis, too) wanting her site done and running. She's the only one who can help me with the idea I've had though.

Speaking of help, that brings me back to the cell phone matter I mentioned at the beginning of this post. A few of my readers have written to me recently to apologize for calling my cell phone number, which somehow showed up on Bruce's blog page. They thought I would be mad with both Bruce and them over the whole situation. Well, if you're reading this and one of those people, relax, It's fine, in fact, I'm glad I have some friends that I can talk to now, since I've come to realize I'm in way over my head with everything going on. I'm only sorry I missed a bunch of your calls, as I was busy a good part of this week and couldn't answer my private cell. If you called me and I didn't answer, I'm sorry, and please call me back. You know the number. If you don't, it's 484-951-0329. Just lay off the middle of the night calls, OK? I have enough trouble with that time of day as it is.

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 		Re: [update] Dales Journal June 17
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Just lay off the middle of the night calls, OK? I have enough trouble with that time of day as it is.


Buahahahahhaaahhahahah!!!111!!

That made me laugh!
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