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[UPDATE] Quirky Acuity 24th May 2006
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arieh
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 		From Violet's blog on the Adamek house:

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The house has been in my family for generations, but it was actually built by Granier, who gave it to Vianne Adamek when she retired as Master of the Academy. Apparently the two were very close; anyway, I think very wealthy important people make more of a habit of giving each other houses as presents than normal people do. The house has been passed down in my family ever since, going to the eldest child every time, so my uncle got it not my mother.


Sorry for stating the obvious here, but Violet's mother is/was an Adamek!

anyone want to spec what that means?

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arieh wrote:
Sorry for stating the obvious here, but Violet's mother is/was an Adamek!

anyone want to spec what that means?


[SPEC]Violet and Scarlett are the great-great-great-*quite a few generations removed for brevity*-great grand nieces of someone who likely had a direct hand in the destruction of multiple cities and their populaces; one who, from our perspective, might qualify as a war criminal.[/SPEC]

This is something we probably don't want to mention to the Kiteways at this point.

[SPEC style="silly"]Sente married Violet's mother (whose name is ... ? and does it matter?) to make sure the bloodlines stay pure.[/SPEC]

BTW, while the exchange of the house is a strong indicator that Vianne would be Granier's "Master," the exchange does not prove that she is his "Master." They could have been friends, or he held her in high regard (she is one of Seven Founders, after all).

How often does a pupil give their master a house? Isn't it usually the other way around?

*a light bulb dimly flickers*

Hey, given that Scarlett's the odd one out in terms of knowledge about the diary, could we ask her about Vianne (since she is a great*n niece)? Maybe find out if Vianne was into Natural Sciences, etc.

Yeah, okay reading the Perplex City Academy history helps.

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Adamek, who had been Senior Fellow in Natural Sciences, was not seen as a natural choice for Master, but due to lack of a suitable alternative candidate, she was elected by a small majority in 22BC.


Okay, so I think we can move past strong possibility into veritable certainty at this point

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 		People have been hinting at this, but that group of loyal scholars could well of been the 1st teachers at the academy after Adamek set it up/helped to set it up.
Maybe thats why the cube manged to stay there for so many years? The original group of teachers had the influence to get it there, after they realised what happened in the war was really wrong, or even the knowledge of what it actually does and made it a priority to make sure it made its way to the academy and stays there under public view so it isn't used again.
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cassandra wrote:
the Conservatoire (which is almost definitely not the group newly mentioned),


Why don't you think it could be the Conservatoire? We don't know much about them but the are an academic breakaway group which broke up shortly after this event?

5-1 though Cass.....worth a tenner? Wink
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and for the group of loyal scholars she has formed.


I'll give people odds of 5-1 that they are the The Conservatoire and Vianne Adamek is more sly than Keers.


I will take that bet considering the following:

'History of the Academy' page wrote:
The period from 60BC onward brought with it renewed conflict, both in the wider world and also within the Academy. The short-lived breakaway institution calling itself "The Conservatoire" drew many valuable scholars away from the Academy. Many at the time, and subsequently, blamed the then-Master Cestmir Zafferin for his high-handedness in refusing to allow these scholars to return after the Conservatoire collapsed. The temporary academic despond into which the Academy sank from 47BC onwards can be traced back to this decision, at least in part. ...

In the light of this, the turnaround achieved by the new Master, Vianne Adamek, seems little short of miraculous. Adamek, who had been Senior Fellow in Natural Sciences, was not seen as a natural choice for Master, but due to lack of a suitable alternative candidate, she was elected by a small majority in 22BC.


Now, if the history is right (and at this point, I'm not sure we can make that assumption), the Conservatoire was toast long before Adamek became the Master of the Academy, and that event occurred twenty years before Granier would commit his thoughts to the diary.

locquist wrote:
People have been hinting at this, but that group of loyal scholars could well of been the 1st teachers at the academy after Adamek set it up/helped to set it up.


The Academy had been established long before Adamek won the post. She reinvigorated the Academy, but it existed well before her.

[SPEC]Some possibilities:

- The Conservatoire did not fold, but just went underground (possibly the roots of 3P?).
- There's another group that Adamek was the head of, perhaps a small cadre of Academy types, that were quite loyal to her.
- Adamek is not the Master (okay, I know above I said that she was, but I'm leaving it on the table, even though its a quick swipe of the hand into the trash can).
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 		Sometimes getting this information all piecemeal can really confuse matters when looking at the history.

Possible that Adamek was a conservatoire herself, or at least had leanings to them? More than likely the second one thinking about it as she wouldn't of still been in the academy to become master if she was an outspoken part of this group.
If this loyal group of scholars were the conservatoire as chris suggests, then maybe she deliberately broke away from them or was asked to hide her allegiance so she could stay at the academy when they were kicked out.
But maybe their ideas were what invigorated the academy when she became master? Renewing their relationship with her as a tool for gaining influence?
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 		Following the line of thought that Sanjean might be V--

Well, he could be. We've already 'seen' him, and he seems pretty civilised... but he could be.

What's Violet's mother's name? *ninja*

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the Conservatoire was toast


I'd be amazed if a group which nearly bought about the 'end' of the academy would split up so quickly-there must have been some resentment around that time. The 'founders of the third power' spec is a intriguing.[/quote]
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achenar wrote:
Following the line of thought that Sanjean might be V--

Well, he could be. We've already 'seen' him, and he seems pretty civilised... but he could be.

What's Violet's mother's name? *ninja*


I doubt Sanjean Adamek is V, based on Alejo's description and other reasons, but that's a topic for other threads.

[I always imagined that the mysterious Ms. Adamek (Scarlett and Violet always ignore my questions about her) might have been named Rose. Or Garnet. (what, no one else thinks Garnet Reed is Sente's clone/secret offspring?)]

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European Chris wrote:
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the Conservatoire was toast


I'd be amazed if a group which nearly bought about the 'end' of the academy would split up so quickly-there must have been some resentment around that time. The 'founders of the third power' spec is a intriguing.


I'll admit, I'm skeptical of the history that is presented by the Academy; it seems very revisionist. Multiple times in it, it seems to refer to the fact Perplex City was at war with its neighbors:

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The third century BC was a time of exploration and discovery for the city. New plants and animals were brought back to the city and exhibited in private gardens, greenhouses and menageries.


I read that and my first thought is imperialism.

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The next fifty years were, of course, difficult ones for the city, during which the Academy's growth was more modest than it had been until then, but the accords of 172BC brought greater stability and a resurgence of interest in the arts.


Accords -> peace treaties or truces. Sort of hard to think about puzzle solving when you are worried about defending your home. [spec]Possibly the city was besieged? At the very least, the military wasn't doing so hot if times were "difficult."[/spec]

Of course there's the part about 60 BC, which we know to be The War. All of these topics are glossed over ... one might say "sanitized."

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cassandra wrote:
achenar wrote:
Following the line of thought that Sanjean might be V--

Well, he could be. We've already 'seen' him, and he seems pretty civilised... but he could be.

What's Violet's mother's name? *ninja*


I doubt Sanjean Adamek is V, based on Alejo's description and other reasons, but that's a topic for other threads.

[I always imagined that the mysterious Ms. Adamek (Scarlett and Violet always ignore my questions about her) might have been named Rose. Or Garnet. (what, no one else thinks Garnet Reed is Sente's clone/secret offspring?)]


No, if anything, I would think Sente's wife's name would be something like Orange or Ecru. Amber?

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 		Is it me or does the cube being this uber-weapon (Nuke esque) seem out of place for a war, that from the descriptions in the diary, are more or less medieval in setting? I can't really imagine a war with swords and knights etc then someone dropping the equivilant of their nuke in the mix.
Doesnt quite seem right.
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locqust wrote:
Is it me or does the cube being this uber-weapon (Nuke esque) seem out of place for a war, that from the descriptions in the diary, are more or less medieval in setting? I can't really imagine a war with swords and knights etc then someone dropping the equivilant of their nuke in the mix.
Doesnt quite seem right.


While they are feudal in hierarchy (the lord, the way he treats "his people"), I do not see where anything else is based on knights, much less swords. What makes you say that its equivalent to our medieval era?

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achenar wrote:
What's Violet's mother's name?

You know, just the other day, it struck me that the CRT and Academy people follow a classical Pantheon structure - Sente as Zeus, Violet as Athena, Kurt as Hephaestus, Scarlett as Aphrodite, Anna as Demeter, and so forth... it's a bit of a tenuous extended metaphor, granted, but the obvious omission is a matriarchal figure. There isn't a Hera. Who was Violet and Scarlett's mother? Is she still alive? (apologies if these questions have readily available answers - I could find none with a brief search)

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 		How about Granier started/ressurected the 3P to try and stop the academy using whatever nefarious information and knowledge that they had?

The house he gave to Adamek with the giant 3P logo on it would then be a reminder to that particular head of the academy that he 'knows what you're up to'?
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