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konamouse wrote:

Why is Florida mentioned in the "reality" page?


Possibly because of Cape Canaveral, hence the mention of "challenger".

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Delusional wrote:
konamouse wrote:

Why is Florida mentioned in the "reality" page?


Possibly because of Cape Canaveral, hence the mention of "challenger".


The Challenger accident happened as the Shuttle was taking off into outer space - flying toward the sun much as Icarus did, and came to woe while before reaching its goals. Columbia came to woe during decent, after reaching it's goals.

On the Memory page: the Ajax of housewives is a cleaning product.

History: the "full of sound and fury" could be a refernce to the William Faulkner novel The Sound and the Fury. The book is broken into sections narrated by a different voice (brothers, servants) on the personality of one girl/woman in the household - each has a differnt view of the whys and wherefores of how things happened and how they are affecting the narrator in question. Which leads to "my history- your history" meaning history is written from a point of view, which colors the impression it leaves behind. 'History is writen by the victors,' the saying goes.

*Edit*

BTW forgot to say, Great Solve Kender!
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 		[Spec][Research]The M series Trails
Breaking down some of the references to the pages that Kender found


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http://www.mythosphere.org/memory.html

"I remember, but just for a fleeting moment, or briefer still, I remember who, or maybe what, I was. || Never can I make the memory stay.

Cerberus the guardian, standing watch once again, an echo or a memory, the original dog of war || I remember a different reality. what does make what I'm living now || I am haunted by the number 6, I know not why ||

I guess housewives of America may have had problems with the mouthability of Achilles, and so in his stead stands Ajax. Suicide to me does not speak to strength, but to weakness. ||"

The first paragraph refers to Amnesia

Haunted by the #6... in conjunction with Cerberus a gatekeeper of the "prison of Hades" - leads one to concider The Prisoner

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 		[UPDATE] June 29th -flames
(For continuity this thread would go here.)
On http://www.mythosphere.org/ where "All of this will soon be gone" linked to the swirling angels, it now links to the below.

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|| All of this will soon be gone. ||

He saw a huge fire burst forth on the headland below Audun's farm. Grettir asked what was happening, but Audun said there was no need for him to worry about it.

"If such a thing were seen in my country," said Grettir, "it would be said that the flame came from a buried treasure."

The farmer said, "The owner of this fire, I think,is one whom it is better not to enquire about."

"Still, I wish to know," said Grettir. ||

"I wish to know," she said to me, "where all of this comes from. What does it mean? And, how can we make it stop?" ||

|| I have given you my all. ||

FIRE!
edit to add: the site is changing... the link"all of this will soon be gone" nows links to http://www.mythosphere.org/newsite/soon.html which gives a 'Not Found' page

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greywolf
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 		It links to this page, just get rid of the word newsite in Driz's link and you get this


http://www.mythosphere.org/soon.html
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 		We have swirling angels on the soon page again.
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 		Here's a page that explains what Grettir saw and what he did about it:

http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/epics/TheSagaofGrettirtheStrong/chap18.html

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Quote:
History: the "full of sound and fury" could be a refernce to the William Faulkner novel The Sound and the Fury. The book is broken into sections narrated by a different voice (brothers, servants) on the personality of one girl/woman in the household - each has a differnt view of the whys and wherefores of how things happened and how they are affecting the narrator in question. Which leads to "my history- your history" meaning history is written from a point of view, which colors the impression it leaves behind. 'History is writen by the victors,' the saying goes.


Actually the title of the Faulkner novel itself comes from a soliloquy in Macbeth (Act 5, scene 5), which includes the lines:

Quote:
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing...


Which would make him the idiot, since:

Quote:
this is my story, a tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


Of course this is an idiot in the sense of a court jester or fool, not in the modern sense of, you know, a really dumb guy.

This also makes his story, his history, life itself, since the tale, full of sound and fury, told by the idiot, is Life, the poor player.

Forgive me if we all already know this...
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 		With all of the, "The answer has got to be in front of me" and "All of this will soon be gone" vibes from Dale and Digitalis, I checked the mythosphere "All of this will soon be gone" link.

New!

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http://www.mythosphere.org/all.html
|| All of this will soon be gone. ||

I remember sometimes, another place, another life, another me.

I remember betrayal. Betrayer or betrayed? Which role did I play?
At another time, I remember fear, of what would come from my actions or lack thereof. The cost was too much to bear.

I remember death and life, mixed together to be the same, and fact and fiction becoming one. ||

"Out of disconnected elements, a complete meaning is constructed, and that is what a person remembers." ||

No, Ebbinghaus will not have his way. The stories, my stories, are mine to tell. ||

|| I have given you my all. And lost myself. ||



leads to:

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http://www.mythosphere.org/lost.html

|| And lost myself. ||

Quis hoc credat, nisi sit pro teste vetustas?

"Remembering is always transformation and reconstruction."

The Prometheus has been unbound. ||

I am Iphigenia, with no Agememnon to blame. ||



*Edit 1*

Ebbinghouse:
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"Out of disconnected elements, a complete meaning is constructed, and that is what a person remembers." ||

No, Ebbinghaus will not have his way. The stories, my stories, are mine to tell.

Herman Ebbinghaus
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Ebbinghaus/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Ebbinghaus


**Edit #2**
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

In http://www.mythosphere.org/lost.html, the latin phrase "Quis hoc credat, nisi sit pro teste vetustas" is from Ovid's, "Metamorphosis" and translates to, "Who would believe this if the age were not there as a witness?"

http://www.latein-pagina.de/ovid/ovid_m1.htm


Prometheus:

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"Prometheus unbound" We believe refers to Prometheus's suffering at the hands of Zeus and, well...being bound.

Prometheus is the bringer of fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

*Trivia Alert* Prometheus Unbound is the name of the large gold sculpture in Rockefeller Center .


Changes a' comin'!

Metamorphosis of Ovid = Change?
Iphengiaminus Agememnon, betrayed, betrayal, Wes equating himself with Iphengia = Self saccrifice without obligation?

Prometheus Unbound= The wheels have been set in motion= fire? or a play? http://www.bartleby.com/139/shel116.html


Prometheus/Greek Allegorical= An egregore is commonly
understood to be magical entity purposefully created by a group or order as an encapsulation of the group's collective aspirations and ideals.
So, if there are those who have purposely put our collective in
motion for their benefit, then perhaps these stories report what we have to look forward to (sacrifice/death/hope,). Since it's looking like saving the library may have been detrimental ( One redemption may doom us all. From best intentions, the darkest lies) in the sense of an egregore, we summoned something..?

Now that we have
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
/all, /soon, /lost. will we be getting /of, /this, /will, /be? Wink


Whew...This thread has the longest posts! Smile
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 		A few other bits of info about what was on these pages:

Quote:
The Prometheus has been unbound.


Once again a reference to fire since Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. Prometheus Unbound also deals with Prometheus overcoming various trials.

Quote:
I am Iphigenia, with no Agememnon to blame.


Agememnon offended Artemis when he killed one of the sacred deers. A prophet said that the only way Artemis could be appeased was by the sacrefice of Iphigenia, Agememnon's daughter.

The Greek goddess Artemis is represented in Roman Mythology by Diana.

I figured eventually Diana would have to show up with all the mythology we are being exposed to.

Is Dale the one who has to overcome the various trials and is Diana the one who has been offended and must be appeased by a sacrifice?

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 		[UPDATE] Native American Myth - Coyote & Fire
Mythosphere updated. The text is from here. It's the story of "How Coyote Brought Fire To The People.

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"So he decided to ask his three sisters who lived in his stomach in the form of huckleberries. They were very wise. They could tell him what to do.

At first, Coyote's sisters were reluctant to help him. "If we tell you," they said, "you will only say that you knew it all along."

Coyote remembered that his sisters were afraid of hail and so he called up into the sky, "Hail! Hail! Fall down from the sky."

This made his sisters very afraid. "Stop!" they called. "Don't bring the hail down. We will tell you what you want to know."

Coyote's sisters then told him how to steal the fire and get it down the mountain to the people without getting caught. When the had finished talking, Coyote said, "Yes, that was my plan all along."


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 		The word all leads to the all page and the word gone now leads to flames.html page.

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|| All of this will soon be gone. ||

He saw a huge fire burst forth on the headland below Audun's farm. Grettir asked what was happening, but Audun said there was no need for him to worry about it.

"If such a thing were seen in my country," said Grettir, "it would be said that the flame came from a buried treasure."

The farmer said, "The owner of this fire, I think, is one whom it is better not to enquire about."

"Still, I wish to know," said Grettir. ||

"I wish to know," she said to me, "where all of this comes from. What does it mean? And, how can we make it stop?" ||

|| I have given you my all. ||


All this a quote from the Saga of Grettir the Strong

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 		Does anyone know the name of the painting at mythosphere.com/soon.html
I am going crazy trying to find it anywhere!

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enaxor
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Killalaz wrote:
Does anyone know the name of the painting at mythosphere.com/soon.html
I am going crazy trying to find it anywhere!


Thank drizjr for this, she's the one who found it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dore-empyrean.jpg
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