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[CrypticVision]

Loose Change

[terminalskeptik]

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[Addie]

Oy.

Coming from the land of Alex "Moonbat" Jones, I've heard this crap a million times.

Blameshifting, by any party, is an ugly thing. Yes, our government (under the tender mercies of Janet Reno) has killed dozens of innocents. I do not believe they're capable of killing thousands.

[MageSteff]

I had to wait a bit to gather my thoughts before I replied to this.


Not to be terribly nit picky about it, but part of the information presented in this is also not accurate.

One Example: There are many reason why there are flashes seen below the outer walls of the towers collapsing.

Things for you to think about while watching this...

The method used to construct this building (basically a tube around a hollow tube) The interior structures were not as strong as the material of the other walls. Therefore, the interior starts to collapse before the outside begins to collapse. So yes, there is dust kicking out the windows lower than the outer wall collapsing wave. There are also electrical fixtures (lights, computers, copy machines, etc.) getting broken and ripped apart, causing sparks to come from the damaged exposed wiring which, yes, you will see through the windows of the building as they are damaged, as they are coming down on the inside before the outer walls give way.

Do I believe everything my government tells me? Heck no. But I also have a problem accepting everything that the opposition voices say as well. The truth lies somewhere between the two extremes.

I have lasting images burned into my eyeballs of people jumping out the windows from the 100 + levels that they showed live on TV as it was happening. It looks nothing like the manner of falling that is popular in the movies (i.e. laying parallel to the ground with windmilling arms and legs - its really like jumping into the pool feet first, with just the arms windmilling) and I felt really really sick to my stomach after I saw one person very, very clearly as they fell.

While I still carry a great impression on my soul from this event, I don't think anything is getting accomplished by standing around and pointing fingers at each other.

Sorry if this hurts your feelings, but bad things DO happen to good people. We need to express the grief and then learn to move forward with our lives rather than let ourselves continue to be defined by one tragic event. The longer we hang on to this, the more people will be able to use it against us, from all sides and places.

I work in a Funeral Home. I see first hand how death affects families. Part of grief is anger. Anger that the person left them behind, anger that they couldn't do anything to save that person, anger that one one else was able to save the person. We are approaching 5 year anniversary soon. Isn't it time to leave the anger behind and move forward with what we can do now to make the world a better place for everyone to live?

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[Puppy_Zwolle]

I see one difference.

1962. We are talking mockfunerals
9-11. Real dead people.

What changed? 'Their' morals or 'our' morals?

Do I believe this is possible? Yes, you could make this happen.
Do I believe people actually kill their own for this? Yes, many died after that date for 'the same reason'.
Did it actually happen this way? I can not put myself to believe it did.

[konamouse]

Anyone remember the President C130 plane that slammed into a mountain side outside of Jackson Hole, WY in Aug 1996? See that picture of the tail. That was the only piece of wreckage needing a helicopter to remove. Everything else of that plane was taken off that mountain in 5 gallon buckets. Konashark was one of the USAF Airman assigned to that detail. And this pilot was trying NOT to crash. Imagine the impact when the "face first" hit is intentional. I'd say there is a lot of FORCE involved. FORCE like a bomb.