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MageSteff
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 		CAROL riddle
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Perhaps a question for a question? What is tall as a house, as round as a cup, and all the kings horses can't draw it up?


I think the answer may just be an EGG.
It houses a chicken, when cooked and the top end removed it forms a cup, and Humpty Dumpty stumped the Kings Horses and men.

Plus I found this nifty tidbit conserning goings on at the Ashram:
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The second course (which can begin at any time during or after the first) involves practical instruction in a variety of "hard sciences," especially evolutionary biology and genetics, brain physiology, Quantum Mechanics and computer hacking. We have no need for these disciplines in any academic sense—in fact our work has already overturned many existing paradigms in these fields and rendered the textbooks useless for our purposes—so we have tailored these courses specifically for relevance to our central concern, and jettisoned everything extraneous.
[hand drawn picture accompanies next section]
At this point a Fellow of the ICS is prepared for work with the device we call the "egg." This consists of a modified sensory-deprivation chamber in which attention can be focused on a computer terminal and screen. Electrodes are taped to various body parts to provide physiological data which is fed into the computer....


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To settle this question a fourth generation of the egg was evolved and tested, while simultaneously a burst of research was carried out in the abstruse areas of "Hillbert space" and the topology of n-dimensional geometry, on the intuituve assumptions that new "attractors" could thereby be generated and used to visualize or "grok" the transitions between alternate universes. Again the ICS triumphed...although the immediate success of the fourth-generation egg provoked a moment of fear and panic unmatched in the whole history of "Cognitive Chaos." The first run-through of the "Cat" program was undertaken by a young staff-member of great brilliance (one of the original Paramus runaways) whose nickname happened to be Kit—and it happened to take place on the Spring Equinox. At the precise moment the heavens changed gears, so to speak, the entire egg vanished from the laboratory


Tidbits found on the following page:
http://www.deoxy.org/inc2.htm

and additional info (debunking) can be found at
http://www.technoccult.net/laboratory/ongshat2.html
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 		Re: CAROL riddle
Magesteff wrote:
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Perhaps a question for a question? What is tall as a house, as round as a cup, and all the kings horses can't draw it up?


I think the answer may just be an EGG.
It houses a chicken, when cooked and the top end removed it forms a cup, and Humpty Dumpty stumped the Kings Horses and men.



The answer I assure you is 'a well' I knew I recognised it from somewhere when I first saw it and checking I found it was from Zork II - an infocom text game I played about 15 years ago.
I was stumped on it at the time because I couldn't see how a well fitted the riddle - but a well it was.
I can't see that anyone would have ripped a riddle from an old game and changed the answer - I think it's a red herring myself, CAROL is just answering a question with a question - I think it could have been anything, someone just remembered a 'famous for being bad' riddle from a classic series of games and entered it into the database as a random quote.
I may be proved wrong....

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 		This didn't need a new topic.

Any chance one of the admins could delete it?
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 		Ahm.. I always thought that the answer to that particular riddle was "tower".

Worked for Zork.

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Orikaeshigitae wrote:
Ahm.. I always thought that the answer to that particular riddle was "tower".

Worked for Zork.

It didn't 'work for Zork' the answer to the same riddle in Zork II was 'A Well' not a Tower.

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 		Perhaps I should clarify -- it worked in MY version.

Dunno about yours, but I clearly remember seeing that riddle, thinking "Hm, could it be a tower?", entering it, and expressing surprise at it working.

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Orikaeshigitae wrote:
Perhaps I should clarify -- it worked in MY version.

Dunno about yours, but I clearly remember seeing that riddle, thinking "Hm, could it be a tower?", entering it, and expressing surprise at it working.


well that's very strange, because all the walkthru's i've looked at it's been a well and people saying how stuck they were by it - I remember being stuck for a few days myself and asking everyone I possibly could what they thought it was - i'm sure I would have tried 'tower' with no joy.

i'm gonna replay it to find out. unless you had a 'one off' version your mind may be playing tricks on you.

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 		Sounds good to me.

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