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[curiouscat]

[SUMMARY] Digging around the Rabbit Hole [May 7]

[kmduke]

Excellent summary post. One question though

[theShaggy]

One would expect that of the hundreds of users on this forum, that SOMEONE would have access to Monster.com's employer's section?

[curiouscat]

Good point, kmduke. We don't have any confirmation on Hugh's resume. However I did just learn that you can search his name (not Hanso) and get the same resume.

There are several more there now that return for Hanso and 1 other that returns for Hugh, but these are all late additions.

[palintery]

Re: [SUMMARY] Digging around the Rabbit Hole [May 7]

[Gus Raja]

Lots of good stuff here. I'll have to comment in parts...

[Yugge]

[laughingpaws]

Music

[SpiralBoundBook]

In the official ABC Lost Podcast, the producers/writers said that Geranimo Jackson is a real, although extremely obscure, band. Draft Shaft is an entirely in-show creation. I'm not ruling out TINAG here, but they do make a distinction between the two.

[theShaggy]

[SpiralBoundBook]

Right, so, in that vein, either Geranimo Jackson is part of the game, not the show (hence they claim it is real) or they are a real band.

I'm fairly sure they did the bit about Geranimo Jackson BEFORE they announced the game as a game. Or at least around the same time. It was certainly before the start of TLE. This is why I think it's open to interpretation.

Also, Jorge Garcia (Hurley) said that when they were looking for props, the writers asked the cast and crew to contribute names of obscure 1970s bands.

EDIT: correction, see post below

[theShaggy]

Honestly, I'm pretty sure Geronimo Jackson was created for Lost. Even if it was an obscure, little known band, I think that SOMETHING would have turned up in the year since we first learned about him. I doubt very much that it would have remained so hard to find at this point.

[SpiralBoundBook]

Sorry all- I went back and checked and my memory has failed me- they talk about Geronimo Jackson in the May 15th podcast, quite after the start of TLE, and in fact they are responding to a question that included references to the Hanso call waiting music and a joke about Sprite. So...

I stand by my initial reaction, which is that Damon and Carlton do say the band is a real, but obscure, band, which makes it different from their usual discussions of the plot of Lost itself, which they treat as fiction. This indicates to me that if it was created for LOST, that it's either part of TLE , or it's some part of the plot and so they want to keep up an illusion until the secret is revealed. Sort of the same thing, in the end...

Also, they say there are two albums, only one of which the producers themselves have even heard. I assume they mean Magna Carta. Did the Hanso hotline have any of the actual album on it or was it just a DJ talking about it? I know there was that LYMON rap thing, but that is now on the SUBLYMONAL site and it's not GJ.

[Perko]

http://www.allmusic.com/ has a rather enormous database of published music, and a search on "geronimo jackson" doesn't show any traces of such a band. So either it's REALLY obscure, or it's fictional. Doesn't prove anything, but I'd lean towards fictional.

[theShaggy]

Had they been a real band, one would expect that some surviving member of the band would have been interviewed once they became semi-famous on the internet, but there's nothing when you Google them.

No record or mention of an album anywhere. There would plenty of hardcore rock geeks who could say "Oh hey! I have a copy of Macna Carta!" (MACna Carta - that's what it seems to be when you got to www.geronimo-jackson.com and check Google's cached site)

References to nobody knowing them on the TV show.

The only actual reference you can find about Geronimo Jackson is connected to Lost, whether it be on the show, on the official ABC podcast, or on the voicemail.

Quite frankly, it seems pretty evident that they're a made-up band for the show. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Alvar Hanso is the only person who has a copy of their albums, and he keeps them on a pedestal next to the Valenzetti Equation.