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[curiouscat]

If you scroll up, Hank, we were discussing the cutesy little smile in the video clip "thanks to persephone-giggle" as a nudge-wink.

"Is Persephone Rachel" isn't a logic puzzle a code or an anagram, it's a psychological puzzle, and there is a psychological portrait that is emerging that we are trying to analyze.

As for why she would start/continue, also see above, Persephone is the star of the show, she's the hacker that hacked Hanso, she's our guide. Why would Rachel (or anyone) try to make others think she's persephone? Why do people put up OOG sites trying to make players think they're part of the show? For the gratification.

Rachel is a drama queen. Look at the way she exposes Hugh's philandering compared to Persephone. The self-important intro how she wrestled with it all, making herself the story. The contrast was one of the first things commented on in this board.

If there is any connection between her and Rachel, my money is on that bad twin angle

[Nova Loop]

Rachel is Persephone!
This is old news in the Iceland Post 03 post, but since it hasn't made it's way into this dedicated thread yet:

[Therum]

Nope. She's lying. I refuse to believe someone as ametureish as Rachel Blake is P.

Until we get an actual hack declaring that, Rachel is a fanatic in my book.

[Jenna]

Hmmm

[theShaggy]

I personally refuse to believe that this is the only twist in her identity we're going to get.

'Cause, as has been said, Rachel's actions are far too amateurish for her to truly be Persephone, but yet, maybe there's a reason for it... or maybe the actress just sucks because of the odd medium.

But this is by the Lost people... there has GOT to be a twist to this coming up.

[Nova Loop]

IMHO Rachel could be Persephone. Just becasue P is a talented hacker doesn't mean she operate as smoothly in real life. I know loads of talented geeks who are completely inept in other settings/situations. Hacks are her forte, not investigations. Her medium was taken away (THF.org) so she has switched methods of feeding us info. Her appearance at the same time that THF.org went down is probably no coincidence.

The $20,000 question is if Rachel is P, why does she need mel0drama to help her post her videos all over the place? P certainly could gain access to any number of sites to host the videos herself.

[vector]

[Lucent]

[Wulfgirl]

I thought Rachel was Persephone the first time I saw her video.

I like to argue that she couldn't have done the hacking without help because she just doesn't seem like a big enough computer geek. Posting with her real name or emailing Dr. Zander, for instance is just too stupid. As someone posting at Rachel's blog said, it would be too easy to trace the emails back to her. Using a hotel ethernet connection is likewise pretty stupid. Even I know better than to use my real name on the internet, and the worst I have to fear is running into some looney who might want to stalk me. Rachel is risking her life by letting the Hanso folks know who she is and where she is. She may also be risking the lives of her friends and family.

But let's remember that the folks who are writing the dialog for the videos and blog posts probalby aren't all the computer savy themselves. They're bound to make a few mistakes, so we'll just have to pretend like the mistakes aren't that important.

BTW, I agree with ImNotNull. My ex BF was a top programmer for a specialized software company and he was not especially savy socially. Intelligence and knowlege come in many different flavors, so while someone might be very adept at programing and software aplications, he or she might be fairly enept at social interactions, hence the term "computer geek".

[lostviolinist]

Personally I'm still way less than convinced. Probably because it pisses me off, but that's beside the point....

Even if it's true that intelligent hackers can be socially inept in RL, Rachel's actions on the internet aren't even close to Persephone's ways. Persephone was very secretive, very cryptic, and more of "I want to show you what I've found out" instead of "God, I'm angry and want to take them out single-handedly". It just seems strange to me that all of a sudden she would go "HEY! After all that previous stuff you dealt with and me insisting I must be careful, just kidding. I'm actually RACHEL BLAKE. Look to me and bow."

Has Persephone lost it? If Rachel is so unafraid of being careful and not hacking into things as well as her "alter ego" did, why would she have been so secretive in the first place?

Or do the writers just suck?
Ah well. I'm guessing this is all just false hope SPEC.

[Vesta]

I find Rachel to be too moody, demanding, and slow on the uptake. First off, Persephone never really *needed* our help. She presented information to us, but was never moaning that we should believe her. The facts were supposed to be enough, not the woman behind the facts. With Rachel, she keeps emphasizing that *she* is risking her life, that we are not doing much of anything.

Which is completely untrue. If she took the time to read what we have to say *ahem maps ahem*, she would know the type of people we are and that she could trust us to help. I believe that Persephone would trust us, but Rachel seems too wrapped up in being the heroine.

Which, since this is an ARG, makes sense. She is, for now, the heroine.

I agree with Gus Raja's theory (on the Iceland 03 post) that Gidget Girl=P, and Rachel is herself. And I agree that Gidget is allowing Rachel to use her name, as a sort of decoy. (I consider Rachel expendable...) Then, Gidget can do covert snooping and *ahem* her own uploading without the help of MelODrama, who for all we know is not a reliable source. Why use outside contractors if you can do it yourself?

So, in summary, I think Gidget = P, and Rachel is a decoy (and a willing one at that).

[Gus Raja]

[Wulfgirl]

Vesta, you make a very good argument for Persephone being Gigetgirl instead of Rachel. I will have to consider the matter undecided until I find better proof one way or the other.

Up until now I've thought Rachel must be Persephone, even though I agree that she doesn't seem as careful or as computer savy as Persephone was.

What is Rachel's background? Could she possibly hack into a site like The Hanso Foundation and do the kind of things that Persephone did?

Kudos to Matt the Pale too! He seems to be right on top of many of the good theories about this game. Go Matt!

[Gus Raja]

[matt_the_pale]

Hey, thanks everyone! It's nice to be commended on work that I've actually done for once, unlike Speaker thanking me for solving world hunger... I'd just like to comment on some of what I've seen so far.