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[UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake.com - Iceland Post 01 (Jun28)
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Kinetic
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sorta like that, but they cant just plug in numbers to find out if an equation is true or not.

to solve the equation, they have to create a proof that validates the original equation.

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Just a warning- the second link posted by Matt the Pale contains huge season two finale spoilers. And also, that discussion of the hieroglyphics in general as linked to the show Lost is a spoiler, as they are not revealed until mid-season two.

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Hank Scorpio
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I remember when the heigroglyphics first showed up and were translated to mean
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or something like that, and now they're involved with the valenzetti equation which is about the apocalypse... Makes you wonder. Oh and the glyphs shouldnt really be a season 2 spoiler anymore because they were used in the simon game.

p.s. 109 posts D'oh

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She updated again. Take a stab at the hieroglyphics? I guess she knows we know what they are. More fuel to the Rachel=Persephone fire?
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Oh and the glyphs shouldnt really be a season 2 spoiler anymore because they were used in the simon game.

If we discuss their context in the show Lost, they are a spoiler, absolutely. And Matt's link is to the Lospedia and they mention some other events from the Season 2 finale on the analysis page.

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Just another thought:

"Hi, I'm Rachel Blake. I'm going to use my full name with someone when making contact within the Hanso Foundation, because gods know that nobody is going to put two and two together."

I kinda hope that Zander gets rubbed out because of this video, just to see what kind of guilt this girl goes through Smile
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It's becoming more and more evident that not only did Rachel work at THF but something very major happened to her there. First she hints to GidgetGirl that there are reasons for her to be going after McIntyre and now she tells Zander that if she tells him why shes doing all this it would put him in greater danger. I don't think shes making it up.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
It's becoming more and more evident that not only did Rachel work at THF but something very major happened to her there. First she hints to GidgetGirl that there are reasons for her to be going after McIntyre and now she tells Zander that if she tells him why shes doing all this it would put him in greater danger. I don't think shes making it up.


This is one of the major problems that I have with the way that the story of this ARG has been set up. Right now, we have these 'characters' -- Persephone, Rachel, WTK, DJDan -- and absolutely NO idea about what their motivations are. I think this is completely backwards. Rather than keeping Rachel's motivations all secretive and mysterious as we follow her bumbling her way around the world, it would have been much better if we first had an idea about why she is doing what she's doing, particularly if it's due to some personal and substantial need to bring down Hanso/Mittelwerk. Then we might actually care and even want her to succeed. [ancient history alert:] Compare Rachel to Laia from TheBeast, who aside from being MUCH better written, always had a clear motivation, from the very beginning, for pursuing all the crazy trails and quests she did. [end history] That's why I kind of appreciate Mittelwerk, ponytail and all. Although his ultimate goals aren't clear, at least I feel like I know where he's coming from.

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Unless Rachel's motivation is going to be a major turning point in the story. I am sure the writers will fill us in on these plot points later. Build the mystery a little more before they reveal certain things. If this played out exactly like the Beast, it would be pretty boring don't you think?

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I agree danteIL. While this ARG is turining out to be more and more like a filmed episode of the show delivered interactively, I have yet to be moved emotionally by any of the characters involved. When Jack and company run from or to the Others, I am scared and excited for them because I know their motivations, and I believe that they are the 'good' people.
When Rachel, Persephone, DJ Dan and company run to or from Hanso, I am just watching them go through the motions. Although, any fan of Lost knows that you will get more questions than answers until the final act, so I am sticking around until then.
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DJ Dan is pretty clearly just some nutjob conspiracy theorist who picked up on P's Anti-Hanso movement, and latched on to it.

I don't know if he necessarily has any other motivation behind that, especially with his crazy ramblings and the like.

However, you're right, I hope we do find out why people like Persephone and Rachel are doing what they do - even secondary characters like Mel0drama have been strangely forgotten. That seemed to be one of those low-lying important twists that are currently being ignored.
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I agree with you guys for the most part, but I have a feeling Rachel and Persephones back story could be a pivotal part of the storyline, maybe to be revealed to start phase 3 and knowing it now would disrupt a big part of the game which you're right, is really more of a story than a game right now.
I'm hoping phase 3 will include the public appearances I've read about and should hopefully open up to more interactivity.

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theShaggy wrote:
"Hi, I'm Rachel Blake. I'm going to use my full name with someone when making contact within the Hanso Foundation, because gods know that nobody is going to put two and two together."
Totally! Not a smart move by Suzie Cornbelt! Maybe Zander will be tortured to reveal her name! Then Act 3 will be Rachel on the run, showing up in public, interacting with players...I can dream, right?*
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Unless Rachel's motivation is going to be a major turning point in the story. I am sure the writers will fill us in on these plot points later. Build the mystery a little more before they reveal certain things. If this played out exactly like the Beast, it would be pretty boring don't you think?
I do think Rachel is shaping up to be an "unreliable narrator"...her antics will give us access to certain stuff, but it will be up to us to draw conclusions from it. Whatever her motivations are, at some point they will become more important than the truth. It looks like we'll have to pull from Rachel, Persephone, DJ Dan, WTK, etc. as each has a little piece of the truth, and try to take away their slants and figure out what is really going on.

*[META]I just hope the way "Act Two" is playing out changes pretty soon. The only solving, cracking, etc. we've had to do lately is to locate videos, which play out the story for us. Even her blog is not really interactive, but scripted. I feel like a bystander and not a participant.[/META]
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chief wrote:
Totally! Not a smart move by Suzie Cornbelt! Maybe Zander will be tortured to reveal her name! Then Act 3 will be Rachel on the run, showing up in public, interacting with players...I can dream, right?*


So can I... and being Canadian, the chances of a Rachel Blake public appearance is pretty slim near me. Again, she's kinda cute Smile

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*[META]I just hope the way "Act Two" is playing out changes pretty soon. The only solving, cracking, etc. we've had to do lately is to locate videos, which play out the story for us. Even her blog is not really interactive, but scripted. I feel like a bystander and not a participant.[/META]


I agree... although, seeing as I usually show up without finding the solutions to clues or anything, I'm just along for the ride as always.

Besides, Act 2 has just begun, and I think we were hearing much of the same problems with Act 1 up until three or four weeks into the six/seven weeks of that one, so we mustn't worry Smile
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Just for the purpose of spec and clarity, I find it odd that this thread has no mentions of the 'Valenzetti Equation', the theory that Gary Troup wrote about in his first non-fiction book by the same name.

It makes sense that the equation that is referred to is the Valenzetti, or related to it. Let's trot down Meta lane for a minute.

ARGs, in my experience, have a tendency to cite past information, mainly because it gives a sense of 'Hey, I'm getting somewhere. I just found this piece of info, which clarifies this piece of info, and progress has been made.'

In this case, if the equation in question is the Valenzetti Equation, it not only takes it off the backburner of specable info on this game, but also gives us insight into why they mentioned it in the first place. When we first heard about this, we had no idea about anything to do with The Valenzetti Equation. But, by feeding us these bits piece by piece, in stride, we figure out why and what is going on. It's a tactic that is used a lot in the show, may it be regarding the Button, or the Others, etc. If they gave us all the info upfront, it takes away a lot of the intrigue.

Now I know most people were speccing that the equation was the Valenzetti in the first place. May it be from the fact that Hanso bought the rights to the reprints, or the fact Gary Troup wrote it, or even from this new stuff. But I just thought I'd put it out there for those other people who hadn't grasped the idea.

/me veers off Meta Lane now, and onto Candy Cane Alley! Woooo! It's like Christmas in the summer here!
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