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[UPDATE] Caine blog - Cracked! 30th june '06
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jbd
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SteveC wrote:
3/ It's not out of the blue - the wiki has a previously documented command string that starts "END END" from someone else, not sure who. It's origins are beyond my knowledge


That was me. I discovered the algorithm message and the first voice message. (I couldn't post because the forums were down.)

I discovered it by thinking about that 'can't log out any more accounts' error. I already knew about end-end-end giving that error message (and I talked about it when someone (you?) mentioned on IRC nobody had seen that error message yet), and I started thinking it might be useful to keep the first two ends in there and log out of *some* accounts. (Can't get a thing to happen with just one end by the way -- maybe someone else will have better luck.)

So, that particular insight was accomplished via logical thinking, not any form of luck or brute force. Just so you know. Very Happy

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Sorry if I caused people offence.

I will keep at it when I get home from work, and hopefully help you guys out with the rest.

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where's this backdoor from, anyway?

It might just be to keep the narrative moving, but gotta wonder - who exactly knows about this backdoor? Where did it come from? Who else uses it?

Nev obviously knows about it, but not necessarily what's in it (implying he doesn't tend to use it):

Quote:
"It's a touch unreliable and it might take a few attempts to function, that is, to respond in the desired manner, that is, to produce information, and I don't know what information there might be there, but there it is. There."


But now it's looking like you get logged in through a chain of accounts, starting at this woman's, who also happens to be helping someone on the outside out. Coincidence?

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jbd
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mattyjh wrote:
Mo Zo Ro Sw -- / -- Ro -- -- Po / -- -- Sw Zo Zo / -- -- --Sw -- / -- -- Ca Pr Zo /

Can't see it on the wiki!

I'm maybe thinking that there's something to do with using Pread and not getting an error message... but thats just me thinking out loud Smile


Now added to wiki. What you just did is manage to extract one of the previously 'unreadable' ones from the table. And it won't work without that pread right at the end before the cache. Hmm!

Perhaps all the blank 'unread' spots in the tables can be filled out?

Edit: ok, so you had
4 zones, 2 rotates, 3 switches.

Changing to:
4 zones, 2 rotates, 4 switches.
Loads up a "blank file". So it looks like at least some of the "unreadable" ones are extractable, albeit not necessarily interesting.

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I think the key to that is that there is a POPEN before the PREAD. P commands refer to "pipes" conventially, and so you have probably have to open the pipe (which is essentially a link through data can flow) before you can read any data from it. I think this could be the key to getting more data, setting up a pipe(s) correctly.....


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jbd
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New audio:

end end mount rotate rotate / -- cache -- rotate rotate / -- rotate pread zone zone

end-end-mount-rotate-rotate-rotate-rotate-zone-zone-pread-rotate-cache

I'll wiki it. I'm still not sure on what the 'rerouted' recordings.

EDIT: And the older recording is gone. It looks like it's rotating based on time, and we need to keep checking?

Ok. So that means we need to be checking (on every hour?) two different configs.

end-end-zone-mount-rotate-rotate-cache
and
end-end-mount-copy-zone-rotate-cache

(the copy in the second one is just for placement purposes)

From what I'm gathering, sometimes it'll just be one file, and sometimes it'll be a different one in each spot.

So, perusant to all that, we need to start putting times on our config checks. Right now it is 16:52:09 UTC, and the "14th of July" config applies. EDIT: 17:19:23 UTC, still holding.

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"Camden watching me across the room"

Camden Porta used to work with Caine. Maybe this is how we identify her?
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So, by the time I finally implement the command path list, the paths go bonkers, change continuously, and totally devalue it. Evil or Very Mad

Well, the audio I've heard so far (not the new one) falls in line with everything else. The 268 White Paper that our suspect worked with Bazeries on comes right before the 269 Case Study of infiltration by outside forces, and nobody on that paper was invited. A few more tidbits and we should be able to peg to speaker, and very likely, our crypto mole.

Let's just hope neither of them decides to take any long-distance vacations then, eh?

EDIT: So, what's 5' by 3' and comes in a box? Confused

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Juxta
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Transcription of the latest audio includes:-

Mystery Woman wrote:
We got this delivery - we get deliveries all the time, you know hardware upgrades and stuff, but there was an extra item. It wasn't on the manifest. I only noticed it cos I was nearest the door when it all arrived, so I ended up signing for it.

So there was ... there was this packing case and, now I don't know what's in there. And it's locked in the stores now so I ... I can't get to it even if you want me to - it's about 5 feet high, 3 feet across and quite slim, like ... a painting or something.

So is this an art-theft thing? Is that what you're after - some kind of fence operation? And if you told me what to look for I might have a better chance of helping.


Sounding more and more like she's working for the Police - or at least someone purporting to be the Police.

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jonc
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Just got a :

Runtime Error: Timeout in folder

Anyone seen this before? (was trying the END END ZONE MOUNT CACHE / - - - - ROTATE, config 23)

edit: also "Runtime Error: No disk access" (for config 24)

edit: cofig 25 now goes to 27 as well

as no-one's replied yet: "Access Error: Unable to get read handle"
When trying a new combination, with only one end.

jonc

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jbd
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GasparLewis wrote:
So, by the time I finally implement the command path list, the paths go bonkers, change continuously, and totally devalue it. Evil or Very Mad


No. It is being consistent. There is just a time element added in the command lists that start with end-end.

And... there's a new one!

end end mount -- -- / -- -- cache copy -- / -- -- rotate zone --

end-end-mount-copy-zone-rotate-cache
=-=-
This one's a twofer. The extra rotate
end-end-mount-copy-zone-rotate-rotate-cache

gets you a document. I'll wiki stuff.

EDIT: Oh, and UTC = 19:20:54. I suspect either 2 or 3 hour time intervals.

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jonc
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has anyone got a combination that works with only one end?

We've seen them with two ends (most of the audio etc)

and with no ends (most of the text/diagnostic reports)

but I haven't seen one with only one end in it, which would presumably be another layer of information...


jonc

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I don't know if this is useful, but the following pops up a black empty screen.

Mo - - - -
PO ZO MO - -
FL RO - SW -
RO - - - PO
- - - CA PR

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I think this audio is new; it has three rotates instead of two...

end-end-mount-copy-zone-rotate-rotate-rotate-cache
same audio with
end-end-mount-copy-copy-zone-rotate-cache

i.e.

end end mount rotate cache/- - rotate copy -/ - - rotate zone -/

EDIT - cba to transcribe it so if someone else wants to wikify it thanks very much, but it seems very info rich, key words in the encryptions she get are viendenbourg and material i.e 'how much material?' + v.high encryption level PLUS there is a hint at a date as she mentions the riots outside the museums. Although i forget when that was, i think it was a couple of months back.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:32 pm
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jbd
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perplexed wrote:
I think this audio is new; it has three rotates instead of two...


No, it's the same as you get with one. It's already wikied. Nobody has transcribed yet though.

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