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[SPEC] Is Persephone Rachel Blake?
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matt_the_pale
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[SPEC] Is Persephone Rachel Blake?

I've compiled a list of reasons for and against the argument that Persephone is Rachel Blake. I've also compiled all known clips of Persephone speaking, and also Rachel Blake's second video. If her other videos are desired, I can upload those as well. Here is the website:

http://members.aol.com/mattthepale/p-rb.html

Now then... what I would like to ask for is evidence for or against this possibility. My intent is not to start an argument, nor even a discussion. I simply want reasoning that has not already been explored. It must be supported by known facts and cannot be wholly or mainly conjecture.

I want reasons for and against the argument that Persephone is Rachel Blake. I will probably add most of them to the website, with the name of the contributor of course! The reason I want to do this is a bit complicated, but it is explained on the website. Also, if someone could do a voice analysis/comparison of the clips on the website, it would be much appreciated.

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One word: professionalism. With persephone, she's sleek, undercover, sneaky, calculated, and has not been recognized by THF. On the other hand, Rachel is over-the-top, outspoken, sloppy, and has been recognized by THF. I could not see Rachel being P based on this fact alone. P seems way too smart to be so out-in-the-open about all of this.

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Hank Scorpio
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What if... dun dun dun... they're twins

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I dont know about your #4 against simply because we dont know who that is in the little vid. But we dont have any evidence one way or antoher.

The one big point against is that Rachel pretty much says so. She thanks Persephone for work.

Rachel doesnt seem all that worried about hideing her identity, there just dosent seem any reason for her not to come out and say that she is Persephone.

Also I think that it would be a better story if they were not the same person so Ill go with that.
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Listening carefully to the audio comparisons I'm even more convinced they're not the same. There are similarities to the point that I almost think Rachel B. is intentionally trying to talk like Persephone. I'm not sure why she'd do this, however, unless perhaps there is something to the spec about her being a Hanso plant.

At any rate, I'm listening to their voices side-by-side and over-and-over, and I keep arriving at the same conclusion. Persephone's voice is more mature. I don't know how else to say this except to say that it just is. I recognize that quality in a voice because I'm attracted to it. Just listening to Persephone makes me want her, but I'm not drawn in the same manner to Rachel's voice. Does that make any sense?

Also, from a pure audio comparison, Persephone's voice is ever-so-slightly higher. I know you'd think "mature" would mean "lower," but that's not the case. "Maturity" in a voice has more to do with quality and class. It has nothing really to do with being higher or lower (to a degree it may, but not when the comparison is close).

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Re: [SPEC] Is Persephone Rachel Blake?

matt_the_pale wrote:
If her other videos are desired, I can upload those as well.



Even though I'm convinced of what I just said, I still have one request. I wanted to compare where Rachel says "Why does he call himself a doctor" in her initial interview with the clip you have of Persephone saying it. However, on Rachel's blog site the vide only opens in Quicktime format, and my computer is just not opening those. I even went back to the original page on "Monster" that it was found on, but it's no longer there. So can you upload the video in another format? Better yet, see if you can just isolate that particular clip of Rachel saying this.

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Well, I would attach it, but I click on the "Add an Attachment" box and nothing happens.

Anyway, I uploaded her first video in WMV format to my website, and I also posted two sections of audio from RB's video -- one is of her saying, "Persephone," and the other is of her asking, "He calls himself a doctor, but a doctor of what?"

http://members.aol.com/mattthepale/p-rb.html

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Of course, that assumes that Persephone is a single individual. Could Persephone simply be an identity assumed by a group of individuals, one of these being Rachel Blake and another being the person hacking the Hanso Foundation website?

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Hank Scorpio
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I find it interesting that when rachels update with the im log popped up no one believed shes persephone, just that shes copying her name for her screen name, yet when openershep originally appeared on the compass site it was just assumed it was persephone.

I'm still sticking witht he twin idea, only because of the argument ninja and the speaker are having. I figure if they're both in game maybe theyre both right. It may be crazy but it's just as plausible as any other theory right now.

Besides, this whole game is starting to feel like one big Hanso social experiment. Come september were all gonna have a hanso video appear on our computer screens with marvin candle thanking us for wasting our summer.

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lmao you saying that actually freaked me out a little.

Anyway, on topic, I personally am still sure that they must be the same person, purely because of when Rachel said "thanks to Persephone" she sorta pauses, and mentally puts quotation marks around it (If you can't see what I mean, it's as if she's saying "Thanks to "Persephone"") and then does a sorta knowing smile. *see attatched gif*

And to counter the against on the website about Rachel not hiding the videos herself - Persephone only seemed to hack the Hanso-related websites. If she was an employee, she'd have access to them anyway.
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Is Persephone Rachel Blake?

I agree that the cutesy little pause is meant to be a nudge-wink, but that's Rachel leading us to a conclusion. It doesn't validate the conclusion.

Rachel seems like quite the me-monkey, in love with the mystique, the role she's playing in all this. It would please her no end for hundreds of people to think she's P, but that doesn't make it so.
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Gus Raja
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matt_the_pale wrote:
Well, I would attach it, but I click on the "Add an Attachment" box and nothing happens.

Anyway, I uploaded her first video in WMV format to my website, and I also posted two sections of audio from RB's video -- one is of her saying, "Persephone," and the other is of her asking, "He calls himself a doctor, but a doctor of what?"

http://members.aol.com/mattthepale/p-rb.html



After listening to these latest additions, there's virtually no doubt left. No way are they the same person.

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The Speaker had a post up a few days ago to the effect
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yes, I know Rachel's chat name is an anagram of Persephone. Ninja and I had ANOTHER "Yo Momma" flame war over this yesterday. He thinks it PROVES she's P. I think it does the opposite. Please, why would Persephone use an ANAGRAM of her name instead of just using her own name?...


Without investigating further, it looks like another instance of Rachel going out of her way to creat the impression that she's P. [/i]
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Hank Scorpio
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curiouscat wrote:
The Speaker had a post up a few days ago to the effect
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yes, I know Rachel's chat name is an anagram of Persephone. Ninja and I had ANOTHER "Yo Momma" flame war over this yesterday. He thinks it PROVES she's P. I think it does the opposite. Please, why would Persephone use an ANAGRAM of her name instead of just using her own name?...


Without investigating further, it looks like another instance of Rachel going out of her way to creat the impression that she's P. [/i]


Yes but as referenced before, Persephone has used the same exact screen name, its the one from compass. Rachel obviously has access to the compass webpage just like Persephone does. The conversation with WTK isnt even proof that it is rachel talking. Sure it says shes Rachel B but Rachel has never claimed to be Persephone before, shes using her real name for everything else (I cant think of any instances when she's tried to make people think she is P), why start just for that.

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you know, i think i would be disappointed if rachel turned out to be p. its too bloody obvious. there needs to at least be some kind of "bad twin" twist to it.

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