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[SPEC] Equatorial Island
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Nova Loop
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[SPEC] Equatorial Island

I don't see any ongoing discussion or a dedicated thread regarding which island near the equator Rachel saw but didn't capture on her camera.

I spun around Google Earth at the Equator and came up with the following short list of islands. For the most part I stayed within a degree of the equator except for a couple. I can't explain why I deviated more than a degree for those two.
Additionally I avoided Indonesian islands becasue there were a million (ok not a million just a lot) of them.

Here is my short list with coordinates. They start off the west coast of South America and go west around the world. Maybe people can add to it or do some research on them. I have not done any research as yet.

Gallapogos
0 17 0 S, 90 42 0 W

Christmas Island (Kiribati)
1 50 0 N, 157 25 0 W

Kuria Island
0 14 0 N, 173 25 0 W

Baker Island
0 12 0 N, 176 29 0 W

Howlan Island
0 49 0 N, 176 39 0 W

South Tarawa
1 32 0 N, 173 7 0 E

Ocean Island
0 51 0 S, 169 32 0 E

Naru Island
0 31 0 S, 166 52 0 E

Foammulah Island
0 17 40 S, 73 25 33 E

Maldives
0 40 0 S, 73 7 0 E

Sao Tome and Principe
0 13 0 N, 6 36 0 E
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:11 pm
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Re: [SPEC] Equatorial Island

Here are links to google maps for each of these

Gallapogos
0 17 0 S, 90 42 0 W


Christmas Island (Kiribati)
1 50 0 N, 157 25 0 W

Kuria Island
0 14 0 N, 173 25 0 W (no aerial photo)

Baker Island
0 12 0 N, 176 29 0 W (no aerial photo)

Howlan Island
0 49 0 N, 176 39 0 W (no aerial photo)

South Tarawa
1 32 0 N, 173 7 0 E

Ocean Island
0 51 0 S, 169 32 0 E

Naru Island
0 31 0 S, 166 52 0 E

Foammulah Island
0 17 40 S, 73 25 33 E

Maldives
0 40 0 S, 73 7 0 E

Sao Tome and Principe
0 13 0 N, 6 36 0 E


My opinion is that, if there reall is an equitorial island we are looking for, that it would be uninhabited and hard to get to, which is why seekrit maps were needed and a special boat prepared for the trip.
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I have a strong feeling if the island actually exists, it's been blotted out on Google Maps. Just like the secret sections of DisneyWorld are, if you look closely.

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Daveman424 wrote:
I have a strong feeling if the island actually exists, it's been blotted out on Google Maps. Just like the secret sections of DisneyWorld are, if you look closely.


I doupt that LOST has the pull to erase an entire island from Google.

They may have chosen an island that didnt show up in Google maps, that is a possability, but that doesnt help us in finding the island that they are asking us to look for.
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I would even say that going "Find the Island!" when we already have definitively shown that those maps ARE of where we say they are is rather frustrating.

"Here, they're in Thunder Bay," we yell, and she responds with "Yeah but... there was ANOTHER map that said it was on the equator, so find our island!"

And we stare blankly since, clearly, we did find their peninsula.
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vector wrote:
I doupt that LOST has the pull to erase an entire island from Google.

But does Hanso?! Shocked

Also, perhaps no strings need be pulled. Maybe the island isn't visible to satellites. If it is indeed "THE ISLAND," or a similar one, consider:

2x18
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Fake Henry Gale tells Locke that the world can't see the island they are on. And neither can god. "God doesn't know how long we've been here, John. He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can."
Transcript for the episode is here: http://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Dave_Lost.htm
Of course, Fenry then goes on to tell Locke two bald-faced lies, but then consider:

2x23-24(Finale)
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The Portuguese men, who we speculate have been looking for the island but cannot see it, until the electromagnetic pulse makes it visible/locatable.


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theShaggy wrote:
I would even say that going "Find the Island!" when we already have definitively shown that those maps ARE of where we say they are is rather frustrating.

"Here, they're in Thunder Bay," we yell, and she responds with "Yeah but... there was ANOTHER map that said it was on the equator, so find our island!"

And we stare blankly since, clearly, we did find their peninsula.


Yeah I predict an "Oh I rembered something else that I saw that will show you exactly what island im talking about"

I was rather disapointed in her reaction to our finding Thunder Bay. It was the first time we were really doing something useful to Rachael rather than following her lead to pointlessly hidden videos and clues. (why dosent she just upload them to youtube in the first place? other than moster.com paid for the advertiseing and what not)
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Upon further reflection, I am beginning to doubt that we can, or are meant to find the island that Rachel is referring to. If we were meant to find it then the video would've shown the actual island we are searching for.
My guess:
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We aren't supposed to find the island. The PMs used images from islands nowhere near the equator assuming that we won't look for them elsewhere and therefore will never find a match. They underestimated their audience in that respect. So now that they've been located in Lake Superior, Rachel says she saw another map (that we didn't) that is on the equator. Since we can't find a match for an island that we have no image of, we are not supposed to find it.
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ImNotNull wrote:
Upon further reflection, I am beginning to doubt that we can, or are meant to find the island that Rachel is referring to. If we were meant to find it then the video would've shown the actual island we are searching for.
My guess:
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We aren't supposed to find the island. The PMs used images from islands nowhere near the equator assuming that we won't look for them elsewhere and therefore will never find a match. They underestimated their audience in that respect. So now that they've been located in Lake Superior, Rachel says she saw another map (that we didn't) that is on the equator. Since we can't find a match for an island that we have no image of, we are not supposed to find it.
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This sounds likely.

PM thought process:

PM1 - "If we give them a picture of an actual island at the equator, they will find it eventually, which will lead them off of the track that we want them to follow. Thus, lets give them a pic of an island that looks tropical, but is not even close."

PM2 - "Perfect! How about Lake Superior? I was just there earlier this summer and the water is super blue, that should work!"

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vector wrote:


I doupt that LOST has the pull to erase an entire island from Google.


Erm, sorry, I wasn't clear. What I meant was that it could be the excuse THF comes up with as to why that island doesn't show up on Google. If the island doesn't exist out of game, that is.

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coweringomega wrote:

This sounds likely.

PM thought process:

PM1 - "If we give them a picture of an actual island at the equator, they will find it eventually, which will lead them off of the track that we want them to follow. Thus, lets give them a pic of an island that looks tropical, but is not even close."

PM2 - "Perfect! How about Lake Superior? I was just there earlier this summer and the water is super blue, that should work!"


lol yeah the pm's have no idea who they are dealing with here. Let's hope as they learn they will wise up. I can not wait for the post game chat.
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haha I've been away for a while and was playing catch up for the last couple days. when i got to the part about the maps I was crackin up that the PMs underestimated you guys. The PMs of ARGs in general always seem suprised at the resourcefullness of ARGers. Good job guys! I hope they learned their lesson
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If they meant to show islands that they thought we'd never find, why would they pick islands within the United States where there thousands of people playing their game, any one of whom could have easily recognized it. If that was their intention, then they're truly a bunch of lame idiots. But I give them more credit than that. They easily could have picked secluded islands where you'd really have to search to find it as opposed to islands that someone might have simply recognized without doing any research whatsoever. I still think there's something to these islands, and I've seen very little reason to think the ARG has ruled them out.

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well i would not discount anything for sure, i mean, we know from tri coloured letter that there is a site alpha beta and gamma.

and we know from hanzo jobs they have at least some presence in denmark , iceland, korea, tanzania and california.

korea is explained by the link to jins father in law, and construction / design work for hanzo.

denmark we know is the head office.

Iceland, where the savants are number crunching , is a location famous for geological activity and more unique is its genetic legacy which makes it perfect for human genome research, so id bet there is a possibility of one of the three other sites being there as evolution is clearly of interest to hanzo.

http://www.nlcahr.mun.ca/research/reports_search/DP_Final__Report.pdf



Tanzenia is home to MT KILIMANJARO , which is well, a giant strato volcano, and is bart of a close knit chain of 20 volcanoes in that area. If hanzo wanted to study geo thermal energy or wildlife, since tanzania has massive massive parks. this would be the place to go. Also, theres literally nothing else there that could give them a reason to go.

http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/img_kilimanjaro.html

california is where hurley comes from, and is most likley the same state as the mental hospital he was sent to where another number crunching savant was present, the source of the numbers in lost. Which much like the institute in iceland probaby acted as a normal hospital but had a sub basment area with savant number crunchers.


i dont think these locations are being picked at random, especially when in rachels travel blog she mentions the genetic ancestry of the area in iceland.

i also dont think that the pics in manny image store are all totaly random as he has quite detailed comments for some.

rachel has visited 2 locations on the hanzo job list. Id be watching that in future. and, thers nothing to say other jobs wont appear on that page to point to other locations, maybe even one at lake superior as someone suggested. They can always write that in to tie up that continuity blip of people locating the first island in that pic they gave.

what im saying in total is, locations in the game seem to be thought out.

Theres a very good chance that the lost island and the island in the pic are not going to be the same in the final equation. we saw an island, we assumed its the island. But if you look at he list of job sites, they each provide one element the true island has, but in seperation.

iceland( unique genetic legacy) corrisponds to 4 toed statue implications.

tanzenia corrisponds to a source of geothermal energy.

what im saying is, just because their is no evidence for or against the other pics being important, dont assume against, as it closes of options of thought. just file it away in the back of your head incase further coincidences arise. and it may be assumed that from seeing previous args that they knew youd be scrambling to find the islands location via that blurry pic and that youd find it as being in lake superior. And possibly tht youd disgard it out of hand, thus it is the community that may be being played on this one , as it fosters distrust of info.

I mean , people people still ask if the manny myspace account is ingame even though we know it has provided in game clues.

im discounting no theories without factual proof they are impossible. Similarly, unless proven 100 percent true, ill treat nothing as fact.

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My theory is that the Mittelwerk's island is the same as the island in the Lost TV series. It's more or less equatorial is on the pacific ocean, etc.

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Rachael Blake aka Persephone said that Mittelwerk was researching the shipping history of the Hanso family and mentioned that they were connected to the slave trade. As we know from the first series of Lost, the Black Rock was transporting slaves, which means that it could be connected to Hanso (bear in mind I've yet to see the entire second series, so I could well be wrong -- if I wrong just say I am and please don't tell me any spoilers Smile ).

Plus the Dharma Initiative, which is strongly connected with the Hanso Foundation, set up on the island.
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Since the island is fictional, we won't find it on any map (unless you look at Hawaii, where Lost was/is filmed).
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