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[DISCUSSION] End Game (Part 2)
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Phatlipp
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Looks like every submission requires filling out the form. I believe my submission to be incorrect and was also instructed to fill out the contact information form. Sad

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:43 pm
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ak-ak
Greenhorn

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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syndil, i really like the logic that you followed to get your answer. I agree that the missing triangle is no accident,
and your solution explains it quite well. I think comparing the international sites is also a great way to check your work.
I went through a similar process when trying to determine if "serenity" was an eight letter word that must be used with the box
to come up with an 8 digit number or merely a nod to the eventual destination of serenity bay. I decided upon the latter after
considered that, on the japanese site, the verbal clue is in english but the text is in japanese, where serenity is not an eight
character word. i doubt that the US site would use the 8 letters of serenity in the answer if it would be impossible for the japanese
to yet the two were given the same clue. it seems that a rule of thumb when writing riddles for multiple languages is that you can employ the meanings of words, but not the mechanics of them.

as i understand it, though, you used the stroke-count method to extract numbers from the lid? that seems to be the biggest stretch of
your method. i dont' see anything in the verbal clue that would indicate that method over any other. still, i have no better solution to offer up.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:19 pm
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medwards2020
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Charlotte, NC

correct answer

Every submission may have to fill out the form at the end, but only one set of numbers for the U.S. gives you the reply back "CORRECT", as mine did.

I stand corrected about the bahamas not being in the Caribbean, as Buttercup suggested, I was thinking of Bermuda. Still the location coordinates land on the southern end of Little Abaco Island.

Very interesting thought, that maybe the search starts on Little Abaco and ends up on Castaway Cay. The rules state that final instructions are given to the seven people, then there is a one hour delay before the actual hunt begins. Enough time for a short boat ride or helicopter ride perhaps??? Idea Idea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:30 pm
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Wavyhill
Kilroy

Joined: 14 Jul 2006
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Syndil,

A few points to consider in your solution.
Granted, the missing triangle is disturbing, and it too led me down that trian of thought.
But i believe all the prior puzzles were merely a training ground for how to solve the puzzles, and certain conventions/methods are consistent throughout the game.
As you have pointed out, the keywords were also hints to the puzzles themselves.
But here is the rub, All of the other puzzles specifically pointed out that fact, and thus established a way to notify us of this.
The final puzzle fails to tie in the keyword into the solution as did all the rest. The fina name you refer to is likely just referential to the keyword itself and not the final number.
Although it is interesting that the jp, UK, and US puzzles did fit the 8 but one not the same. Why would the european puzzle disregard the keyword if it was tied in to the final.
As for counting strokes versus intersections, we have had to count slashes in the past, but never before did we count anything like an intersection.
As for the order of things, the JP dots puzzle is similar in convention to Cozumel, with the 3 dots with diagonal connection being of concern.
The US and UK were similar to completing the round circles in the trees, once again, the missing triangle is of concern.
I've seen some talk of the order in the box to indicate which number on the lid is placed in that spot as opposed to ordering them 1 to 8. This however defies the method set forth in both the Pulau Jong vases and the Isla Culebra Lightning which ordered the coresponding clues in 1-11 and 1-10 order respectively.
I've also seen posts about goin in reverse, or counting the unused piece for the squares from bottom to top. This again defies the convention established in Diomede, The trees, Mas Tierra, and Cozumel, which all followed either a Left to Right, or Top to Bottom convention.

So now we have to apply Occam's Razor to our assumptions.

Do we assume the keyword plays a part in the final answer, when it is not specifically pointed out?
Do we ignore the missing piece of the 1st or 4th square in the box puzzle, when it is obvious as to which piece is unused?
Do we assume that we must use the keyword and then shift the answer to fit? Which is sort of like the vase puzzle, except that one allowed us to move and match.
And if so, do we assume that the puzzle makers would ignore the keyword significance in the European version.

By following conventions established in previous games, we are left with only one assumption for one for the puzzle, ie missing triangle. Versus a few assumptions for the Keyword Transhift solution you propose.

The more I ponder this, the more I like your solution and am less sure of mine.

But the razor cut was made, and the most popular answer is likely right.

But you know?, I'm less sure now than I was before this post.

I guess it's wait and see.

Sorry for the ramble!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:47 pm
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Wavyhill
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Medwards,

So what answer did you come up with that gave you a correct?
And was the correct on the redcard? or in the final answer?

I'll search previous posts again, but dont remember your answer.

Hope your right! And get that phone call on Monday.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:52 pm
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medwards2020
Boot

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Final Numbers

Wavyhill wrote:
Medwards,

So what answer did you come up with that gave you a correct?
And was the correct on the redcard? or in the final answer?

I'll search previous posts again, but dont remember your answer.

Hope your right! And get that phone call on Monday.


Me Too......See p. 7, Savvy?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:06 pm
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aliendial
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medwards - is there any reason you cannot explain how you came up with the number you used? why so coy?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:33 pm
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Phatlipp
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Medwards -

Do you have a screenshot of the "correct" screen.

From "About the Hunt" at http://thehunt.volvocars.net/us/thehunt:

"What happens if I win?
If you win, we will contact you in person and make arrangements to fly you to the secret location where the Volvo XC90 inspired by Disney's Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest is buried."

I had assumed from this that they would come notify you in person if you had the correct answer but that must only be if you are one of the first 3 to solve.

How did you come up with those 8 digits. They are unlike any I've seen posted with logic behind them. I'm sure we are all very curious.

Hope you are willing to share.

Thanks

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:48 pm
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rbing
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I've already entered my solution to the UK game, but I thought I'd
try Medwards solution, in the US version, to see what screen came up.

It said: "Your answer has been submitted and the time recorded.
Now, please enter your personal information. We'll need this to contact you if you win."

Now, this doesn't really prove anything, as I haven't registered for the US version, but it does state in the conditions that the winners won't be notified until after July 17th!

Anyway, there wasn't any message saying "Correct", after putting in Medwards solution. (Whatever that means!)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:55 pm
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titi_nicolas
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Re: correct answer

medwards2020 wrote:
Every submission may have to fill out the form at the end, but only one set of numbers for the U.S. gives you the reply back "CORRECT", as mine did.



It is just impossible that you saw the CORRECT screen because it would compromise the final.
I think your brain suffered from an optical illusion, the screen you saw saying "please, make sure your personnal informations are correct".

Too much coffee and adrenaline... not enough sleeping...
you experienced the hunt after-effects.
Wink

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:06 pm
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masebrothas
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My friend got into the finalist... and what he did was cypher the code... kinda like the beale treasure... this effin sucks!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:10 pm
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rbing
Greenhorn

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Also, on the Japanese version, the solution screen shows "Congratulations" before you've even entered the solution.

I think someone posted that image elsewhere.

Basically, I think we all have to wait until the 17th to put our minds and sanity to rest!

Good Luck to you all!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:10 pm
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medwards2020
Boot

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Re: correct answer

titi_nicolas wrote:
medwards2020 wrote:
Every submission may have to fill out the form at the end, but only one set of numbers for the U.S. gives you the reply back "CORRECT", as mine did.



It is just impossible that you saw the CORRECT screen because it would compromise the final.
I think your brain suffered from an optical illusion, the screen you saw saying "please, make sure your personnal informations are correct".

Too much coffee and adrenaline... not enough sleeping...
you experienced the hunt after-effects.
Wink


That is entirely possible that I have a faulty memory of what it said in the excitement of the moment, and I really wish I did have a screen save image. But my memory is that it just had the word in caps "CORRECT". I could be wrong, and I'm not trying to pull anyone's leg. Also I remember the message saying that finalists will be notified the week of July 26th. That seems to be different than what other people saw.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:14 pm
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bob12
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My friend found out u have to decipher it using the hunt video

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:15 pm
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strayern
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what hunt video

what do you mean hunt video??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:32 pm
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