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[DISCUSSION] End Game (Part 2)
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 		ssssssst
I like the idea of ordering things according to ssssssst, but that doesn't really work with Castaway Cay. Coordinates for there would include 77, and 2 sevens don't appear anywhere.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:36 pm
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medwards2020
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 20
Location: Charlotte, NC

 		Final Answer
This is what I used and it said it was correct
2558n7713w
final #'s 01453597

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:43 pm
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dlightle
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 		Hmm
Well, after spending most of the evening looking at the US, JP, UK, and SP puzzles, I'm almost tempted to say the most proposed US solution is right. The only one I disagree with is the Spain/Austria one and I think I have it.

I think they go like this:

US:
Lid: 46446372 (Counting straight lines)
Box: 43618275 (Unnecessary columnar piece)
Solution: 43642476

UK:
Lid: 38690893 (Adding curved lines)
Box: 13846257 (Unnecessary columnar piece)
Solution: 38899036

JP:
Lid: 32968058 (Adding straight lines)
Box: 15487362 (Counting series of connected, similar-filled dots)
Solution: 36508829

SP:
Lid: 38690893 (Adding curved lines)
Box: 81364572 (Counting straight lines)
Solution: 83608993

Here are my thoughts: the lid is the 8-digit number, but scrambled; the box is the order sequence. There are 2 ways to use this 8-digit order sequence though; one is to use it to say which number in the scrambled number-phrase it is, and the other is to say where in the unscrambled-solution it goes.

Ex:

(Typical way: unscrambled position)
Lid: 46446372
Box: 43618275

Box #1 (4) says that Lid #1 (4) goes to position 4 = _ _ _ 4 _ _ _ _
Box #2 (3) says that Lid #2 (6) goes to position 3 = _ _ 6 4 _ _ _ _
Box #3 (6) says that Lid #3 (4) goes to position 6 = _ _ 6 4 _ 4 _ _
Box #4 (1) says that Lid #4 (4) goes to position 1 = 4 _ 6 4 _ 4 _ _
Box #5 (Cool says that Lid #5 (6) goes to position 8 = 4 _ 6 4 _ 4 _ 6
Box #6 (2) says that Lid #6 (3) goes to position 2 = 4 3 6 4 _ 4 _ 6
Box #7 (7) says that Lid #7 (7) goes to position 7 = 4 3 6 4 _ 4 7 6
Box #8 (5) says that Lid #8 (2) goes to position 5 = 4 3 6 4 2 4 7 6

Solution = 43642476

(Unusual way: scrambled index)
Lid: 46446372
Box: 43618275

Box #1 (4) says Lid #4 goes to position 1 = 4 _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Box #2 (3) says Lid #3 goes to position 2 = 4 4 _ _ _ _ _ _
Box #3 (6) says Lid #6 goes to position 3 = 4 4 3 _ _ _ _ _
Box #4 (1) says Lid #1 goes to position 4 = 4 4 3 4 _ _ _ _
Box #5 (Cool says Lid #8 goes to position 5 = 4 4 3 4 2 _ _ _
Box #6 (2) says Lid #2 goes to position 6 = 4 4 3 4 2 6 _ _
Box #7 (7) says Lid #7 goes to position 7 = 4 4 3 4 2 6 7 _
Box #8 (5) says Lid #5 goes to position 8 = 4 4 3 4 2 6 7 6

Solution = 44342676

I tried going left-to-right in the [US] box originally, which never gave much too reassuring; there was no 'distinct' 1-8 which sets it off as not likely to work.

I did the up-and-down column search that finds the piece that's unneeded, and I even tried using the piece as it would appear counting from the top or bottom.

At first I was eliminating any solution that wouldn't be a valid GPS coord ( _ _ 6 0 _ _ 60 for instance would be invalid; where the 60s are indicate minutes, so 0 - 59 is the only valid entry here). However, this never held true between all 4 sites (some had no GPS-valid answer from my quick testing).

So what this led me to do was to use the usual approach above for the index-ordering, use the box as the index order, and the lid as the scrambled solution. Each was quickly deduced (without using SERENITY, or SSSSSSST, or etc.); most were done by drawing or counting lines/curves, as well as the filled dots/squares/triangles.

I know there is some debate over the US/UK box since one column was only partially-filled; my thought is that this matches perfectly with the 'All eight but one will see the same, For you to find that final name', since all eight but one of the columns see the same.

This is just more food for thought, though you can go any way you want with this information. If these are the actual solutions, it's likely over already; if they're not, then I'm not seeing the right angle still yet.

Best of luck Smile

PS: medwards2020 -- how did you come about that number? And when you say it said you were correct, do you have a screenshot? Not that I'm doubting you, just that I want to gasp in amazement at just how far off I/we could be.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:20 am
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Have Faith
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
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Location: Montana

 		Thanks for the colored picture of the box.
Thanks to tveek for the colored picture of the box symbols. It was very helpful. I still do not understand how the box lid symbols were used to make numbers. I realize that the lid and the box symbols were both based on the same kind of squares. On the other puzzles, we could find out right away if our answer was right or wrong, but now many of us don't know if we were right.

To medwards2020:
Are you in the UK, the US, or where? I wonder if anyone in the US got the message that they were correct. If so, I hope they post their answer and how they got it here.

Thanks to everyone for your help. This was a fun game and it was nice to converse with you all. Smile

EDIT: Thanks to dlightle for his explanation of the box puzzle. I did not read it until now because I was in a hurry. I will have to look at the box lid again to see what he means by "counting straight lines." I wonder if dlightle got a correct message when he posted his answer. Perhaps Volvo has it programmed to say correct for any of the correct answers from any of the participating countries. I realize that the box gave the order of the lid numbers like the jars in Pulau Jong. I hope we find out the official correct US answer soon.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:22 am
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dlightle
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 		Hmm
Are you pulling our leg mredwards2020? Smile That's the EXACT written number in the Spanish box...

I'm very confused if that turns up as the US solution

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:28 am
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medwards2020
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 20
Location: Charlotte, NC

 		I'm not pulling your leg. That's the numbers I used and it said it was correct, and that my time of entry was recorded and I was to verify my contact info. I'm sure I won't be in the top three in the US, but I was stoked to get it right.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:51 am
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medwards2020
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Location: Charlotte, NC

 		Final Location
BTW, I haven't read all the posts, but I didn't see the location listed by name on this thread.

Coordinates of final location: 2558N, 7713W, on Little Abaco Island, east of Grand Bahama

Post this in your browser and get a close in satelite image:


http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/image_gx.asp?cpx=-77.2166666666667&cpy=25.9666666666667&res=30&provider_id=340&t=&OL=

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:01 am
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ak-ak
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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 		this might be old news to most, but . . .

posting those coordinates made me go back and try to find where the 3 came from. that was the only number that i couldnt find a good explanation for. found it (maybe) on mas tierras. the verbal clue "you are not alone" is repeated three times. seems like it'd fit in the order too.

still trying to crack the box . . .

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:14 am
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dlightle
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 		The 3
I believe it was on that island, but you scroll all the way to the right, where the W in the sand is...and just above it, to the right a little, on the rocks, is carved a symbol with THREE tick marks in white "chalk".

I was off to begin with as I assumed the 2... and ...5 were 2 _ _ 5 in the coords, and I didn't run with the 8/infinity on the barrel properly. I had the 2, 5, 5, N, 7, 7, 1, 3, W though, just a little jumbled before clearing it up here.

So medwards2020 how did you come to use that number or get it? I'm astounded that it's correct, but congrats on that Smile I just frown at Volvo for making the US answer less intuitive (in my eyes, and likely many others') and also the exact printing from another website. /sigh

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ak-ak
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 		ah good eye. yeah, the hash marks are more convincing. could be the same reiteration that we saw on st helena with cyclic 7th rung and the 7 scrawled into the rock. hey, we need all the help we can get.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:34 am
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titi_nicolas
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 		Re: Final Answer
medwards2020 wrote:
This is what I used and it said it was correct
2558n7713w
final #'s 01453597


I am sorry but the web site won't tell you if your solution is correct or not. You have to wait until next week.... like everybody else!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:48 am
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adamrj
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 		Eureka... or not
I had a sudden eureka moment in the bath last night, but then as with most of them it fizzled away to nothing. I was pondering on the missing triangle. Triangle... missing... eureka! Bermuda triangle. Which helps... not much at all.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:20 am
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j15bell
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 		bermuda triangle
I actually put in the coordinates of the Bermuda Triangle for the string #'s.

Had stayed up to read posts-pick brains-see the jp site.

When I was scrambling to get the coordinates to somewhere my brain died.

By the time 2p.m. arrived I actually put the address of port royal with the somewhere coordinates. Accidentally blew off the world map thingy.

Got there wrote down the poem/narration thingy and derived from that-A cursed isle in a cursed sea-and it's possible location-that it was in the Bermuda Triangle-googled the triangle and put in those coordinates!

Remembered that I should have gone to port royal with the ssssssst and started to panic. Went to the forums. Found out that there were BOXES Crying or Very sad and another puzzle.

Can't cry too much-had a blast-was great entertainment reading everyone's post.

This was WAY better than the DaVinci Code online game.

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j15bell
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 		end game 2
A cursed isle, in a cursed sea.

Holds the cursed key to serenity.

Hold the haunting, stop my mind.

From wanting, believe I will find.

Serenity.

Tell Me.

What if the boxes were diversions. And we should have focused on the poem/narration!!

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kaosss
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 		Re: Final Answer
medwards2020 wrote:
This is what I used and it said it was correct
2558n7713w
final #'s 01453597


wow, you're way of! I've seen all the right answers here for all markets. And it isn't you. Don't get your hopes up.

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