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[REF] Loose Ends
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[REF] Loose Ends

Breaking off from this thread, I wanted to compile a list of unsolved puzzles/hints. This is NOT a list of inconsistencies, but in the spirit of many LOST forums that keep ongoing lists of the plot points that have been introduced in the show but not yet brought to conclusion. I'm going to stay away from big things like- Where is Alvar? or What is the Valenzetti Equation? because I think they are self-evident. On second thought, I'm going to separate the loose ends into three main types- clues that haven't been connected to anything yet, open ended speculation questions, and big, overarching story questions.

Clues Not Yet Connected

1- "She was an employee of the foundation" from a hack of the MFI site on THF.org. It was backwards and over Russia. Who wrote this? Who does it refer to?

2- The second hacker who got into Persephone's microfiche hack and claimed to know who she was. Who was this?

3- William T. Kilpatrick. Why did P contact him directly? Why has he been brought into the story?

4- Is Tanya really there during the DJ Dan podcasts?

5- That "expose" of DJ Dan- if that was Persephone, then why would she (as Rachel) then call his show asking for him to help her? If not, who was it?

6- Why did GidgetGirl want those photos removed? **

7- Who is Mel0drama and where did he/she go? *

8- Alvar's jump backward in time during P's May 8th hack.

9- The morse code clue at the end of the May 8th hack. (safe g) I've read that this is supposed the same as the Hole3 picture- "save me"? for what?

10- Who e-mailed the July 14th video (with instructions) to Mel0drama? ++

11- Was it Rachel who posted the username/password to her blog? If not, was it Mel0drama? How? ++

12- Who was the person that called Rachel, posing as GidgetGirl? ***

13- Who else came for Rachel? There is evidence of what may be three separate attacks- phone rang, shots were fired, and someone [the Fixer] was at the door.

14- The voicemail from Mittelwerk on McIntyre's [Verizon] message service on the Hanso phone line said "we have to put a public face on all this." They renamed a project after some sort of event. What?

15- Peter Thompson's original voicemail was very angry- apparently there was an issue in Korea and everyone called him. What happened?

16- What was the "Sri Lanka thing" Darla left Hugh a message about and did Darla tell Rachel about it? ****

17- Where in the world are the parts #8 and #9 of Gary Troup's interview?

18- Where is Liddy Wales? (She had no photo and no bad past.)

19- What about Dick Cheever? (Also with no bad past.)

20- Why is there no link to Jacob Vanderfield's directory on lycgy.com/usr/?

21- What is wrong with Alvar Hanso's blood?

22- Who is the Dr. Hacket Mel0drama' mentioned?

23- What was in the missing_organs.zip file that P sent to WTK?

24- Why does Mittelwerk walk with a limp and smell like pine trees?

25- Why were words whited out on the original (pre-hack) Mathematical Forcasting Initiative page? (They were solved here but they don't make sense. Steevo?)

Things Under Debate

1- Is Rachel really Persephone? (Discussed more here.)

2- Is GidgetGirl really Darla?

3- Are Hugh McIntyre and Darla Taft really dead?

4- Is BroadBandBeatnik really a traitor? Fiberoptician is the only one who raises suspicion about him. So, is Fiberoptician the traitor? *****

The Big Questions

1- Where is Alvar Hanso?

2- What does the Valenzetti Equation do?

3- Where did the Helgus Antonius go and what who was it carrying?+

4- What happened to Rachel's mom?

5- What is the Korean Offshore Project?

6- What is happening in Sri Lanka?

7- Who is Rachel Blake's father?

* As of July 14th blog update, Mel0drama is still around and helping.
**As of July 14th video, it seems GG claimed to be the other person in the photos, a Ms. Darla Taft.
***As of July 21st video, the woman who called Rachel was GidgetGirl, not a plant.
****Darla/GG told Rachel about Sri Lanka in the July 21st video.
*****July 21st ROT conversation makes this far less plausible.
+ Helgus Antonius sailed to Sri Lanka, as of the July 21 video, and it seems to be carrying sick people.
++As Rachel survived the attack, it stands to reason that she had some limited access and so was able to email these videos and instructions, although in a hurried way (so Mel was a bit apprehensive.)

Mention others and I'll add them to the list, or disagree with me and I'll remove them.

Vesta mentioned the sequence of letters from the compass on LYCGY.com, but I *believe* this was shown to be the letters from the food in the Swan station. I hesitate to add it because I don't think it's a question we'll solve during TLE, but rather a nod to LOST.
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Re: [REF] Loose Ends

SpiralBoundBook wrote:
Vesta mentioned the sequence of letters from the compass on LYCGY.com, but I *believe* this was shown to be the letters from the food in the Swan station. I hesitate to add it because I don't think it's a question we'll solve during TLE, but rather a nod to LOST.


Thanks for the mention, wish my inspiration could have been in-game Smile

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Heck, we still haven't gotten anywhere on figuring out the clues implied by Wally Bole's picture on the ROT site. I'm sure there is something to his picture. But that's a more recent item. Going back to when the THF site was up, what about the time conflicts from the hack about when Alvar Hanso was last seen? That seemed like a blatant clue, but I don't recall it ever being connected to anything either. Come to think about it, such time conflicts have occurred throughout this ARG. Anyways, at the end of this same hack, if you wait a little longer we discovered it actually ended with Morse Code. The code itself was translated (see May 8 hack explanation in "Act One" of Quick Reference Guide), but the resulting clue never did connect to anything.

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Gus Raja wrote:
Heck, we still haven't gotten anywhere on figuring out the clues implied by Wally Bole's picture on the ROT site. I'm sure there is something to his picture.

Hmm- didn't the ROT team say that the picture was just a cover? I've been figuring that Waly and Mandrake and all things connected to them were smokescreens created by the ROT team so they could hide clues for us, and their clues tend to be a little more obvious.

I'm inclined to put all of it in the same category as a lot of the random filler we get with DJ Dan. For example, his first podcast, where he talks about Alvar Hanso having his head frozen. I don't think that was an actual lede, but rather just a sign to all of us that Dan was in-game.

Good call on the other things, though. I've added them above.
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8- Who is Mel0drama and where did he/she go?

I would like to add something to that – "Why does Persephone need his/her help to upload video clips and audio clips to the internet?" (I recall that he offered to do that for her; correct me if I'm wrong!)

MelODrama and P's relationship gets into the question of whether P is truly RB; and I would suggest that you add "Is Rachel Blake really Persephone?" as another loose end.

This thread is a great idea, by the way! Smile

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Vesta wrote:
8- Who is Mel0drama and where did he/she go?

I would like to add something to that – "Why does Persephone need his/her help to upload video clips and audio clips to the internet?" (I recall that he offered to do that for her; correct me if I'm wrong!)

MelODrama and P's relationship gets into the question of whether P is truly RB; and I would suggest that you add "Is Rachel Blake really Persephone?" as another loose end.

This thread is a great idea, by the way! Smile

Aww, thanks. Wink

As to the various issues with Rachel being Persephone- I've added it with a star because I think this is more of a controversial/inconsistancy issue than an actual puzzle, but I could be wrong. There is another thread that discusses so I've just linked to that as well- and posted there, because this has made me rethink my position on the whole debate.
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As others have no doubt already mentioned, several questions are raised with the posting of Rachel Blake's new video as well as the new RoT post. I have compiled a list of them to add to the reference board in hopes that some of them will be resolved. Everyone should have seen the new Rachel Blake video by now, but out of respect of those who haven't, I will use spoiler tags anyway.

From Rachel's blog:
1. Who e-mailed the video (with instructions) to Mel0drama?
2. Was it Rachel who posted the username/password to her blog?
3. If not, was it Mel0drama? He stated he would take matters into his own hands in one hour at 6:06 PM -- but the video was posted at 6:01 PM.

From the video:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
1. Who was the person that called Rachel, posing as GidgetGirl?
2. Is GidgetGirl really Darla? That was always an assumption on Rachel's part.
3. Are Hugh McIntyre and Darla Taft really dead?
4. Who was shooting at Rachel?
5. Who was calling Rachel?
6. Who was knocking on the door to Rachel's room?
7. Is Rachel alive or dead?
8. If she is alive, where is she?

From the RoT post:
1. Is BroadBandBeatnik really a traitor? Fiberoptician is the only one who raises suspicion about him.
2. Is Fiberoptician the traitor?

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matt_the_pale wrote:
As others have no doubt already mentioned, several questions are raised with the posting of Rachel Blake's new video as well as the new RoT post. I have compiled a list of them to add to the reference board in hopes that some of them will be resolved.


I agree with the importance of answering all of these questions. I would like to ask, in reference to Matt's #2 from the video, what was meant when

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Rachel said, "Gidget Girl, Darla was a GOOD PERSON". If GG was Darla, then why would RB be addressing GG on behalf of Darla? Or did she mean it in the sense of "Gidget Girl (i.e. Darla) was a GOOD PERSON"?


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I think she was saying Gidget Girl, Darla, was a good person. (If we were to put grammer to what she was saying.)

She was letting us know that Gidget Girl was Darla.

IMO

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Rydergirl wrote:
I think she was saying Gidget Girl, Darla, was a good person. (If we were to put grammer to what she was saying.)

She was letting us know that Gidget Girl was Darla.

IMO


I'm leaning in that direction too... the voice inflection... the high note at the end of Darla made it almost like a question like "You know? Darla? Same chick?". But I can also see the argument from the other side.

Tough call. Probably by design.
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I've updated the list, but I haven't included everything Matt brought up because I think some deserve further debate:
matt_the_pale wrote:
3. If not, was it Mel0drama? He stated he would take matters into his own hands in one hour at 6:06 PM -- but the video was posted at 6:01 PM.

I think the time difference here is small enough that I don't think it's really proof that Mel didn't post it. The question to me, though, is if it was Mel, then how? Rachel never officially made Mel a member of the blog- just GidgetGirl.

matt_the_pale wrote:
2. Is GidgetGirl really Darla? That was always an assumption on Rachel's part.

Was it? I thought GidgetGirl and Rachel had direct contact right before Rachel made her a member of the blog. I just assumed that GG told Rachel her name and that she was sleeping with McIntyre and that's why Rachel trusted her. Rachel says in the video that she knew who she was all along. Of course, GG could be lying to all of us...
There are a lot of issues which I think are more SPEC than anything- like- Is Rachel Really Persephone? I think whether there are clues to support this can be debated. But I think they are still questions people are asking, so being it's a reference thread I have added them in a new category.

matt_the_pale wrote:
7. Is Rachel alive or dead?
8. If she is alive, where is she?

This is probably the lede for the next Act, so I think it falls into the "really big questions" category, which I've added.

I also added some stuff from Act One that we have forgotten about...
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I think the Powers that Be (TPTB) wanted us to be confused about what Rachel was saying.

1. Either it's "Gigetgirl/Darla was a good person" (same as "GigetGirl, Darla, was a good person").

2. or it's, "GigetGirl, Darla was a good person".

In the first case she's telling us that GigetGirl=Darla and is now dead. In the second case she's telling us that Darla is dead, but GigetGirl is still alive. Looking at the evidence to see which scenario is more likely, what do we find?

1. Darla's voice on the Hanso voicemail message sounds Scottish, but the woman on Rachel's phone message does not sound Scottish. This could mean they are different people or it could be a mistake by TPTB. (BTW, what about the woman on the Sanremo audio, the one who sounds like DJ Dan's Tanya? Someone should compare all 4 of these voices to help us determine who is who.)

2. Rachel had photos of Hugh with Darla. (The report of the accident said the woman's name was Darla Tapp and she worked for the Global Wellfare Consortium.) The pictures of this woman looked similar to the picture of the woman in the accident, but I don't think there's a consensus yet as to whether they are the same woman. If they aren't the same woman, this might mean that Darla faked her death, but I doubt the Paris police would've fallen for that trick.

3. Rachel asks GigetGirl how she will recognize her when she meets her in Paris. (If she knew Darla was GigetGirl and had already posted pics of her, she should already know what she looks like.) GigetGirl says Rachel will recogize her. Did Rachel know GigetGirl was Darla?

4. If GigetGirl was Darla, then it makes sense that she'd want those photos taken down. She wouldn't have wanted photos up that show she was having an affair with a married man and she might have been scared that the Hanso folks would come after her, if they knew she was leaking information about them and helping Rachel.

If we can determine whether Rachel believed that GigetGirl and Darla were the same person, then we can determine how to interpret her statement mentioned above. (Forgive me if this is just regurgitating stuff we already know. I'm trying to clarify the issues in my own head.)

p.s.

After watching the video a few more times, I think we are supposed to believe that Darla was GigetGirl and she's now dead.

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Another question from Act 1:

Darla mentioned on the phone line: "Hugh, we have to speak about this Sri Lanka thing. It's just not right"

What was she referring to? Did Darla make Rachel privy to what this meant?

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I don't know if this falls under the category of Loose Ends, but I'd like to know where parts #8 and #9 of Gary Troup's interview are.

Also:

Where is Liddy Wales?

Dick Cheever? (the real in-game one)

Why is there no link to Jacob Vanderfield's directory on lycgy.com/usr/?

What is wrong with Alvar Hanso's blood? and does this relate to Mel0drama's Dr. Hackett?

What was in the missing_organs.zip file?

Why does Mittelwerk walk with a limp and smell like pine trees? And for god's sake, what's up with that hair?

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Wulfgirl wrote:
If we can determine whether Rachel believed that GigetGirl and Darla were the same person, then we can determine how to interpret her statement mentioned above.

p.s.

After watching the video a few more times, I think we are supposed to believe that Darla was GigetGirl and she's now dead.



Having explained why in the main thread about this latest Rachel blog, I'm now convinced that "Darla Taft" is indeed the same girl that was filmed kissing Hugh McIntyre, if indeed that was truly the real Hugh (there's still the question of the guy pictured in his spot before the Jimmy Kimmel show). But I think it's still mere spec that GidgetGirl is that GWC girl. I'll say this much. Either...

1. GidgetGirl = Darla = Dead = Rachel must be alive and posting on her site.

or

2. GidgetGirl = Persephone (Darla was GWC girl, but was never GidgetGirl) = alive, and possibly posting on Rachel's blog spot if for whatever reason Rachel isn't the one currently posting = P told Rachel to continue pretending to be her and to make people think that GidgetGirl is Darla.

Does anyone think that Persophone is Darla and is now dead? Or that Persephone truly is Rachel? It's like it could be, but I'm still leaning towards neither being the case. Also, assuming the latter question is answered no, what are the odds that it was Persephone calling to try and warn Rachel at the last second.

Finally, I'm also wondering if just perhaps Rachel turns out to be the murderer having ultimately wanted to kill Hugh all along but needed help to track him down. "Darla" might have simply been in the way. Afterall, Rachel knew to look in the morning's paper for the article, and the next thing you know people are either shooting at her, or she's now ultra-paranoid thinking that people are shooting at her. Don't run with this as anything. It's just a wild theory I'm pondering in the background.

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