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[S2] [OXO set] #235 How I Wonder
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pish
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 		[S2] [OXO set] #235 How I Wonder
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Plain black with 40 white dots.

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Guest Puzzle Architect Tim Judkins



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And it came to pass after the death of Gyvann that a great convocation was called of all those who had been his friends, his followers and his students. It was in the third month, at the new moon, at the mountain of Esk. And they debated and discussed all that he had taught them, and meditated upon the holy light of the Cube and upon the words of Gyvann.
And Durisa, the Machianite, his wife, spoke saying: let us have no fortune-telling. For one of the students had told that Gyvann had come to him in a dream. And she continued: let us delve in his words, and toil in them. And let us write our own words, and continue in the meditations on the holy Cube. And let us share this light with those who may listen to our words.
And they did as she had said. And from this council grew up the mighty schools of learning in the city of Lecks and in the city of Vyehall and in the lands of the west. But that the words of Gyvann should not perish from the land, they wrote the stories of him that they remembered into volumes, and they taught them to their children, and to their children's children.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:12 pm
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pish
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 		Initial thoughts
This initially appears to be a star field, although it represents no section of the sky which I am familiar with.

Personally I think that the colouring of the card is a bit of a red herring designed to lead us down an immediate path of trying to identify constellations.

I have had a few days to think about this card now, and I will spoiler my thoughts since this is only the start of the thread.

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Not a star field - but the colouring (white on black) and the name suggest something star related


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I noticed that the horizontal positioning of the dots across the width of the card is uniform - a graph then. Inverting the scanned image makes it easier to plot the points


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My daughter is covering Infra Red Spectroscopy in her chemistry classes at the moment and she saw the graph and thought it looked like an IR fingerprint.


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This is as far as I have got. I suspect that it is the IR fingerprint for a particular celestial body - star/supernova/galaxy/nebula etc. That would tie in with the name and the design. How to scale the graph and compare against existing observed data is a bit beyond me right now, but I am working on it.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:25 pm
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pheebs
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 		yeah, i'm thinking various things as methods. including join the dots haha that would be too easy for a silver... wouldnt it?

i know tim judkins so maybe if i buy him enough beer he'll let slip the answer? :s

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Rand0m
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pheebs wrote:
i know tim judkins so maybe if i buy him enough beer he'll let slip the answer? :s


Or try violence. Violence can work.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:25 am
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t7bros
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Rand0m wrote:


Or try violence. Violence can work.

Smile


Ah yes. The is no problem so great that violence can't help but work in our favor. The answer shall be ours. (Insert maniacal laughter here)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:24 am
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kareyn01
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 		I just solved it. I won't post anything in the way of spoilers for a while so as not to tempt those of you who haven't gotten it yet.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:10 pm
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pheebs
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 		any chance of a clue, even a small hint? well done for solving!!

i'll make sure to beat him up for you all when i see him next. although he is very nice so i may just tell him he's far too clever! hehe.
he has apparently done 6 puzzles altogether.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:35 pm
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pish
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I just solved it. I won't post anything in the way of spoilers for a while so as not to tempt those of you who haven't gotten it yet.


Nicely done there Kareyn01 - am I on the right track with this one?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:20 pm
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kareyn01
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pish wrote:
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I just solved it. I won't post anything in the way of spoilers for a while so as not to tempt those of you who haven't gotten it yet.


Nicely done there Kareyn01 - am I on the right track with this one?

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It's more than meets the eye Pish; you're in the right direction with where you are going; maybe off by a bit, but getting there.


for the rest of you

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when you are looking at the card, you have to think about the "variables"


honestly, if I say anything more I will give too much away, but if you have questions, I'll let you know

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:37 pm
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Tom90deg
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 		Hey all, I've got a quick question...I jsut solved this card a bit ago, and I must admit, I solved it by random chance. Does anyone know how you're supposed to figure out the solution? I'm curious as to what the "right" way is. Thanks all!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:23 am
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aliendial
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 		Take a look at the solve page on the site - there's more to see in this card. And the fact that there's more is a hint to the solve...

Also the solve box seeks a last name. Which narrows the area of inquiry substantially. Not looking for a particular star, no math.
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Agent Lex
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 		Well, just "properly" solved this myself, with some prodding from the ominous Tim (I had solved it by guess before). My hint's gonna be this:
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There are two patterns to notice that greatly help in solving this card. One is stupidly obvious, and although it's not vital to the solve it does help. The second isn't so obvious at first glance, but has been seen here, and that's the "key" to the solve. No, "key" isn't a clue of any sort.


Any more than that and it does start to go into spoiler territory.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:11 am
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pish
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 		OK, I have got it now.

Rather irritatingly it was a guess and I have no clear indication as to why it is correct or how it actually maps to the card.

Very strange.

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