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#141 - Love Code (circle set)
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Nightingale
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 		#141 - Love Code (circle set)
Guest Architect Michael Smith worth 36 points

text:

In Victorian England young lovers were often prohibited from publicly expressing their affection for each other. Even corresponding by letter was considered too risky in case their parents intercepted them. Instead many lovers sent coded messages to each other via the personal columns of newspapers.

A young man has penned this missive for his sweetheart. Can you decode it to reveal where they are plannning to meet tonight?

The Illustrated London News - September 14th 1850

Fdicsjd nm ved tbxev nm ved knnz,
Jbtado bj mnszu nz ved knno;
Czu fdicsjd nm ved tbxev nm ved jsz,
Vedod bj xntu nz ved gcttj nm ved lnno.

Fdicsjd nm ved tbxev nm ved jvcoj,
Ltczdvj cod mnszu bz ved jvodck;
Czu fdicsjd nm ved bz ved udlvej nm kr uodck.

Kr ucotbzx Kcobc, kddv kd cv dbxev
vnzbxev nsvjbud ved Injknockc, Odxdzv Jvoddv. p



I don't have a scanner and have done my best to make sure that there's no mistakes in the above message. I'm sorry if there are.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:59 am
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Nightingale
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 		The decoded message seems to be:

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Because of the light of the moon,
silver is found on the moor;
And because of the light of the sun,
there is gold on the ?alls of the poor.

Because of the light of the stars,
planets are found in the stream;
And because of the light of your eyes
there is love in the depths of my dream.

My darling maria, meet me at eight tonight outside the Cosmorama, Regent Street. ?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:05 am
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Curlytek
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 		Nice solve Nightingale....for completeness, I'd say your ? is a w. Is there some of the code missing in the first post?

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Nightingale
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 		Thank you! It's my first solve! (I was slow off the mark with the first wave)

As for your question, not that I know of - I think I just had a 'senior' moment. I also suspect the 'p' at the bottom is an 'x' for a kiss. I got a little confused whilst decoding this one so that's why it's not totally complete. I started it last night and finished it off this morning - correcting all the mistakes I made last night made me a little bit annoyed at myself. Embarassed So I just wanted it out of the way as quickly as possible!

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Kvasir
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 		Anyone got a confirmed solve on this yet?

My decoding came to the same result, but I've tried several variations of the answer and none have been accepted. I tried:

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OUTSIDE THE COSMORAMA, REGENT STREET
Regent Street
Outside the cosmorama


PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:06 pm
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serendipity01
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 		yes my accepted answer was...
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COSMORAMA REGENT STREET


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Kvasir
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 		Sometimes I just hate mind candy and the lack of decent AI....

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locqust
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 		What process did you use to translate it Nightingale? Simple transposition cipher?
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TopGun2
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 		Anybody else noticed that the text in the 3rd section of the right hand column is printed backwards?

I don't think there's enough text there for it to mean anything but it's odd none the less!

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Brian Morton
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 		Is there anything to the date or the Latin on the card? I'm going to ask a friend who speaks Spainish (that's the best I could do in the
Romantic languages dept.) I've never heard of Regent street so I'll try that. Thanks ahead for any help. Smile
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Red Dragon
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 		Just an aside and I don't know if it's of use at all. The poem is entitled 'Alchemy' and it's written by Francis Carlin (his full name was James Francis Carlin MacDonnell). I couldn't find out much information about him online but I did discover that he was born in 1881 and died in 1945; but the date on the newspaper is 1850. Bit bizarre. I think I need to do some more research...
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beglee
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 		The Latin text around the poem is a standard dummy text used by the printing and typesetting industry for filler. See here for info.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:44 am
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 		Additional clue?
Red Dragon wrote:
Just an aside and I don't know if it's of use at all. The poem is entitled 'Alchemy' and it's written by Francis Carlin (his full name was James Francis Carlin MacDonnell). I couldn't find out much information about him online but I did discover that he was born in 1881 and died in 1945; but the date on the newspaper is 1850. Bit bizarre. I think I need to do some more research...
Coffee


This is the info for the Illustrated News that date, note that:-

'The African Exhibition at The Cosmorama, Regent Street' Haven't as yet been able to find any more info on the exhibition

September 14th

An eight page issue price sixpence.

It features articles with prints from engravings including

* 'The Late attack upon Marshal Haynau at Messrs Barclay and Perkins's Brewery - The Coal Cellar at The George, Bankside - The Bedroom in Which Marshall Haynau was Concealed - Escape of Marshal Haynau in The Police Galley' (front page),
* 'The Synod at Thurles in Co Tipperary - The Bishops Robing - The Procession from the College to The Cathedral', 'The Right Rev. Dr. M'Hale, Archbishop of Tuam', 'Sitting of The Synod',
* 'The French President in The Rue St. Jean, at Caen', 'Grand Ball at Caen', 'Sketch en Route to Cherbourg', 'The President en Route to Cherbourg', 'Harbour and Town of Cherbourg', 'The French Squadron in Position at Cherbourg', 'The Royal Yacht Squadron Saluting the French Squadron - sketched by the Hon. Dudley Pelham', 'Ships' Boat Race at Cherbourg',
* 'The Grand Musical Festival in Gloucester Cathedral', 'Gloucester Cathedral - The Porch',
* 'The African Exhibition at The Cosmorama, Regent Street'
* Obituary of Eminent Persons Recently Deceased including Admiral Robert Dudley Oliver at Dalkey, Dublin, The Rev. James Ingram at Trinity College Oxford, The Very Rev. Holt Waring, Dean of Dromore, Baroness Rothschild at Gunnersbury Park, Ealing, Chief Justice The Rt. Hon. John Doherty',
* 'The Total Loss of The Indian Indiaman',
* 'Country News',
* 'Metropolitan News',
* 'Canterbury Settlement, New Zealand',
* 'Chess',
* 'The Markets',
* It measures 400x275mm (16x10.75")

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dharpernz
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Red Dragon wrote:
Just an aside and I don't know if it's of use at all. The poem is entitled 'Alchemy' and it's written by Francis Carlin (his full name was James Francis Carlin MacDonnell). I couldn't find out much information about him online but I did discover that he was born in 1881 and died in 1945; but the date on the newspaper is 1850. Bit bizarre. I think I need to do some more research...
Coffee


This is the info from the paper that day, note the African exhibition was at that address, haven't managed to find any other info on it though yet. Also on a unrelated note, there was an article on the founding of Canterbury(christchurch) settlement in NZ my home town!

September 14th

An eight page issue price sixpence.

It features articles with prints from engravings including

* 'The Late attack upon Marshal Haynau at Messrs Barclay and Perkins's Brewery - The Coal Cellar at The George, Bankside - The Bedroom in Which Marshall Haynau was Concealed - Escape of Marshal Haynau in The Police Galley' (front page),
* 'The Synod at Thurles in Co Tipperary - The Bishops Robing - The Procession from the College to The Cathedral', 'The Right Rev. Dr. M'Hale, Archbishop of Tuam', 'Sitting of The Synod',
* 'The French President in The Rue St. Jean, at Caen', 'Grand Ball at Caen', 'Sketch en Route to Cherbourg', 'The President en Route to Cherbourg', 'Harbour and Town of Cherbourg', 'The French Squadron in Position at Cherbourg', 'The Royal Yacht Squadron Saluting the French Squadron - sketched by the Hon. Dudley Pelham', 'Ships' Boat Race at Cherbourg',
* 'The Grand Musical Festival in Gloucester Cathedral', 'Gloucester Cathedral - The Porch',
* 'The African Exhibition at The Cosmorama, Regent Street'
* Obituary of Eminent Persons Recently Deceased including Admiral Robert Dudley Oliver at Dalkey, Dublin, The Rev. James Ingram at Trinity College Oxford, The Very Rev. Holt Waring, Dean of Dromore, Baroness Rothschild at Gunnersbury Park, Ealing, Chief Justice The Rt. Hon. John Doherty',
* 'The Total Loss of The Indian Indiaman',
* 'Country News',
* 'Metropolitan News',
* 'Canterbury Settlement, New Zealand',
* 'Chess',
* 'The Markets',
* It measures 400x275mm (16x10.75")

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:17 am
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prawnhead
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 		Love Code
cipher type
I managed to decode this using...

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Letter frequency, then working out the words


... but thought originally that it was a ...

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symmetric cipher using Love code as the key


.. out of curiosity can people confirm how they decoded this.

love and kisses
prawnhead

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