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[Mikeyj]

Firstly I think this thread is really boring.

Secondly I have a question. I think the best way to buy cards is to buy a slack handful of random packs of pure wave 4 (assuming you have all waves 1-3 and that this is an available option) and then to top up buying specific cards individually. The question is: when is the most economical point to switch from random packs to indivdual cards?

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[chimera245]

Wave 4 Card Distribution

[mDuo13]

I'm maybe not as bitter as you are, but my friend and I were certainly disappointed to open a box of Wave 4 Mixed (the only thing we could get without waiting for weeks) and find not a single silver in it.

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distribution

[Rand0m]

There's quite a discussion about this in the Wave Four Box Coalition thread here. It looks like in any given box you get almost all the blacks, or almost all the silvers, but almost none of the other. It seems that one in three packs (roughly) will have a premium card in them, but the distribution of which type of premium card is very lopsided. There are recorded instances of people getting as many silvers from a box as you got blacks, but more people seem to have had it happen your way.

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jaffa's notice

[miamo_tutti]

My mixed Wave 1-4 box had 11 silvers, none duplicates, eight were Wave 4. And no Wave 4 blacks.

[spugmeistress]

i kinda agree with mikeyj - this thread *is* boring, but hey if you all want to talk about it i guess it's my fault for reading.

tbh i think a lot of people are forgetting that this is an ARG, not a trading card game - the same rules do not necessarily apply. considering firebox never offered whole boxes at the start, and people only got them by doing deals with their local distributors then yes, i would imagine that this is not the way they intended people to buy the cards, and so they wouldnt pack them in a way that was necessarily beneficial to people who bought whole boxes thinking they could break the system and automatically get all the cards. next we'll have people saying they deserve gold cards just because they bought 10 boxes or spent £200 or whatever - to be fair it takes all the fun out of collecting...

rach =)

[dmatos]

I got 6 packs of wave 4 only boosters.

I got 2 silvers, no blacks and no duplicates.

I filled in all but 1 red, 1 orange, 2, blues and 3 purples with 6 packs.

[dmatos]

6 packs - wave 4 only boosters.

2 silvers
no blacks
no duplicates

only need 1 red, 1 orange, 1 yellow, 1 green and 2 blue and 3 purple.

[beglee]

I bought 20 packs of pure Wave 4, giving me all wave 4 reds-purples (and plenty of duplicates in this range), 5 blacks and 3 silvers (no duplicates).

I bought them in 5 seperate batches (using a voucher for each purchase), and got a free wave 1-3 pack in each batch, which produced 1 silver (that i already have).

[spugmeistress]

any chance a mod could merge this with the other thread where people opine about how much money they've spent on cards not to get the ones they wanted?

rach =)

[rose]

It may seem like complaining but that wasn't my intention. I think that people have been posting the number of silvers or blacks they got in packs from the very beginning.

Clearly Mind Candy changed the way these cards are packed compared to other waves and I was asking why. It isn't meant as a criticism of Mind Candy or an accusation that something is wrong.

Also, I am trying to work out if it changes the relative value of the black and silver cards. That is: are black cards more valuable in this wave than in others?

And it is true that this game is fundamentally based on the ARG component but it isn't solely an ARG. The game has always been designed with the idea of bringing in card collectors as another set of players - a way of expanding the game out from the pre-existing ARG community. So, in my personal opinion, it isn't realistic to just dismiss the concerns of card collectors --who are an important component of the player base-- by saying this is an ARG and not a card collecting game.

[aliendial]

I have been getting blacks a little over the ratios noted above - two groups running at almost 1 for every 2 packs, but then another group right on 1 for every 3 packs. Will be selling wave 4 black dupes on ebay. AND STILL NO SILVERS!!! GAH!! That's all I ordered. No way to improve my score until I can get something from ebay or a new shipment. (or if someone solves 13th Labor, Shuffled, etc etc)