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[UPDATE] The Ooze Zone - 18 Aug 06 - Hush, Anna page
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hyperzz
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Mindros wrote:
Tintintin wrote:
filmguy1013 wrote:
i did a similar ROT, taking the first letter of each line (after Talk Talk Talk, of course), but still nothing... and an rot would have to end with .com or .org or something, matching with TTT = www. If there's something here its more complex than that.

Maybe second, third or last letters...?


Tried with second, third, and last letters. Nothing legible.


Out on another limb here, but could it be the first letter of each word?

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Distractions from such morose matters are welcome. I suspect the 3P aren't waiting in silence for a minute while they conduct their eevyl plans. Evil or Very Mad

Not convinced it's the order of the words that's "odd" so much as the rhythm, but maybe that's what poems do. I ain't no poet.

If you take the number of syllables in each line, and turn that into a letter per line (e.g. "talk talk talk" = 3 = C), you get:

CQHECKBADDIBA

Meh. Probably random, unless anyone can think of a "Baddiba" ("bad ibba"?) and a reason why a Q would interrupt a perfectly good word...

[Edit much later] oops. that should be "CQHECIBADDIBA".
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Mindez
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hyperzz wrote:
Mindros wrote:
Tintintin wrote:
filmguy1013 wrote:
i did a similar ROT, taking the first letter of each line (after Talk Talk Talk, of course), but still nothing... and an rot would have to end with .com or .org or something, matching with TTT = www. If there's something here its more complex than that.

Maybe second, third or last letters...?


Tried with second, third, and last letters. Nothing legible.


Out on another limb here, but could it be the first letter of each word?


That's what filmguy1013 tried with his first post. Laughing
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notice also that "you" appears after "talk talk talk", and before "should be here" (the first and last words), suggesting that :

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"you" = .


talk talk talk you = www.

you should be here = .com


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Scribe wrote:
Distractions from such morose matters are welcome. I suspect the 3P aren't waiting in silence for a minute while they conduct their eevyl plans. Evil or Very Mad

Not convinced it's the order of the words that's "odd" so much as the rhythm, but maybe that's what poems do. I ain't no poet.

If you take the number of syllables in each line, and turn that into a letter per line (e.g. "talk talk talk" = 3 = C), you get:

CQHECKBADDIBA

Meh. Probably random, unless anyone can think of a "Baddiba" ("bad ibba"?) and a reason why a Q would interrupt a perfectly good word...


You might have hit on something here, what if the first part was an idiom for "Q in Check"?
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The running together of meanless and words jumps out at me.

I immediately see it as "meaning less word".

Fits also with "Hush"

Perhaps we need to drop every 3rd word (3 talks) to get the message?

I'll update if I get anything.

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the3musketeers
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The thing that jumped out to me was the "words have no meaning only sound"

Tried /meaninglesswords.mp3, .wav and .wma and nothing.

Then tried word meter to give dots an dashes in morse code, but haven't tried all computations of that.

Now working on phonetics.

Am I trying too hard? Confused

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i saw it this morning and was reminded of the cognivia puzzle, maybe something in the background needs to be filled in?
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jonc wrote:
notice also that "you" appears after "talk talk talk", and before "should be here" (the first and last words), suggesting that :

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

"you" = .


talk talk talk you = www.

you should be here = .com


I like this way of thinking. But if it's true, it'd be a long answer...

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should c
here m
be o
talk w
you .


www.________________________________co__co__.com


Would be what we have so far.
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James Siegesmund
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Keeping in mind that Aiko is a puzzle mimic, could she be mimicking Anna as a memorial? The poem refers to Anna as "The nurturer . . . of signification." From American Heritage dictionary: Signification n. 1. The established meaning of a word.

So, with that all in mind, I looked up a few of the words in the memorial. Here are the two interesting results:

Fleeting . . . 2. Nautical To alter the position of (tackle or rope, for example).

Dead adj . . . 5a. No longer in existence, use, or operation. . . . 13. Sports Out of play. Used of a ball. . . . adv. 1. Absolutely; altogether. 2. Directly; exactly.

Based on that definition of "fleeting," I'm wondering if there's an anagram here (which is a pun of Anna's name and therefore a good puzzle to pay tribute to the fallen linguist). It's too long to put into the anagram engines I know, though, and I stink at doing them manually.

On a different tangent (put this with the "missing space"), why put commas in the second line but not the first? Poetic license covers it, I suppose, but it seems odd, and usually odd language or punctuation from a Perplexian means there's a puzzle afoot. . .

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is there a possibility that the clue is not based on the words of the memorial? the poem says "words have no meaning only sound"...is there an auditory clue instead?

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Tippy is the puzzle mimic, not Aiko. Aiko is the art based puzzle scribe.

I'm leaning more towards Aiko just liking strange grammar rather than there being a kloo here.
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Mindros wrote:
jonc wrote:
notice also that "you" appears after "talk talk talk", and before "should be here" (the first and last words), suggesting that :

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

"you" = .


talk talk talk you = www.

you should be here = .com


I like this way of thinking. But if it's true, it'd be a long answer...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):


should c
here m
be o
talk w
you .


www.________________________________co__co__.com


Would be what we have so far.


Woud for letter substitution seems to make the most sense to me, even though this would be a horribly long answer (unless phrases can also be substituted, but then we're just getting crrrraaazzzyy). However, there does seem to be enough evidence pointing to an audio clue, and since the URL to this page ends with an open "/" it seems like there may be a file to plug in here, but that wouldn't line up with the www or the .com. I'm ranting now, sorry.

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dburnt
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I tried listening to the words, thinking that the auditory was in how the words sound rather than read...for example "you" sounds like "U" which is a common abbreviation for a university (or academy).

Coincidentally, "meaninglesswords" is a user name on a website called "drowned in sound".

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My twopennorth - it's a banana. It's an entirely appropriate poem, a very beautiful and well-written poem, and nothing in it seems out of place to me. No peculiar phrasing, no unusual grammar, nothing suspicious at all. It's a memorial book, and she's writing about the sadness of having only memorial words left in place of Anna, the lover of words, and the inadequacy of those words.

But hey, this is PXC, perhaps my puzzle brain just isn't as devious as Aiko's.

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