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[UPDATE] The Ooze Zone - 18 Aug 06 - Hush, Anna page
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Antony C
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 		Also, the first comma is a curly comma, all the others are straight commas. Any thoughts on that?

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[edit] if 'words have no meaning', then maybe 'words' isn't included in the result (if there is a result). And 'meaninglesswords' is, because 'words' isn't separated.

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I'm going cerrazy here...mother=nurturer, dead=gone, with=remain=permanence(maybe), signification=meaning, all description words(can't remember the technical name), i.e. the, they, of etc.

Perhaps the meaning of the words is being used as a letter


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Antony C wrote:
Also, the first comma is a curly comma, all the others are straight commas. Any thoughts on that?


Sorry to burst your bubble on that particular score, but there's no actual difference in the commas. I see what you mean, but if you look closely, it's a bit of the aging effect of the "paper" that gives it that appearance.

Personally, I think it would be great if this were a banana, because I doubt any of us really want a memorial to a friend to be more than it appears. But I don't think we can afford to discount the possibility that it isn't, if only because anything we glean from this could A) lead us to Anna's killers, and/or B) give us some sort of clue that down the line could spare the lives of some of the other characters.

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 		In the humble opinion of this monster it's not only a banana, it's also a terrible poem.
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Caol wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble on that particular score, but there's no actual difference in the commas. I see what you mean, but if you look closely, it's a bit of the aging effect of the "paper" that gives it that appearance


I'm certain it isn't. Well, certain being almost sure. Well, ish. Being picky-picky, it's actually one pixel shorter than the other commas (i was sad enough to measure it in photoshop) - but am willing to forget it as being significant.

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 		I don't know, it just seems very... final.
Clues have come from stranger places.
Not that I have a single clue as to what or how.
But it seems too elegantly simple to be just a memorial.

Very few things have been so easy before, and I don't expect that to change.

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Plus, it's the only thing we've been given, and just about every branching link out of a blog has been something crucial. If nothing shows up on Monday, I think that it might be our most viable option.

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 		words have no meaning, only sound

meaninglesswords = lesswords or soundlesswords?

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 		I bet an employee of Mind Candy is reading this thread and laughing his ass off at how deeply we're trying to get into this. Rolling Eyes
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I bet an employee of Mind Candy is reading this thread and laughing his ass off at how deeply we're trying to get into this.



I doubt it, or I hope not, as I expect Mind Candy wants players to look for clues and puzzles in playing the game. I don't think they laugh at players. There is so much information in this game it can sometimes be difficult to tell what is a puzzle or clue and what isn't. It wouldn't be out of the question for there to be something hidden here. So, it was definitely worth a look.

Personally, I like the thought that something created to memorialize Anna would help us solve the question of who murdered her.
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 		seriously, i've pulled out all of Anna's cards looking for any info that pointed to my *spec* she knew it was comming.
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duckiemonster wrote:
In the humble opinion of this monster it's not only a banana, it's also a terrible poem.

It sounds mean, but the fact that I thought it was a terrible poem and memorial was the reason I thought there might be a kloo. No poem should be that bad unless it was necessary! Alas, it seems it is just a banana.
I suggest we leave this Memorial Banana to rest.
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 		banana
How do we know that something is in fact a "banana" if it hasn't been proven? I'm not saying I can find anything in this and it appears that people have tried, but - don't we need to wait until the game progresses before we write something off?

I would be happy to put this under "we did all we can - let's wait and see what happens next. "

Not every clue or puzzle is straightforward. I even wondered if this was a hint to finding a sound file - maybe one we have overlooked or one that might have been added somewhere. I wondered if Anna might have left something hidden in her blog.
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 		Man, Aiko was working on short notice. I guess that's the way of art, and I'd guess Aiko wasn't interested in rewriting the poem if it served more as catharsis.

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Scribe wrote:
CQHECKBADDIBA

Meh. Probably random, unless anyone can think of a "Baddiba" ("bad ibba"?) and a reason why a Q would interrupt a perfectly good word...


Although I do think that this is a banana, I noticed that the letters generated by Scribe contained part of the hotmail address that we found during the live event.

pxc_vector_kabaddiSPLAThotmail.co.uk

(To recap for those that were not there, we were given a clue which led us to find this hotmail address. Once added to MSN messenger, we were required to "get into character" and onwards followed a conversation using lines from Casablanca, in order to get the keyword we needed.)

Yes, I have been watching this hotmail contact, no, they have not been online since. (Not that I have noticed anyway.) It maybe link, it more than likely is not. Either way, it's about time I threw in some bizarre spec, I'm long overdue a huggle from the RSM. But for me, this is too much of a coincidence to just dismiss as utter lunacy.
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I noticed that the letters generated by Scribe contained part of the hotmail address that we found during the live event.

pxc_vector_kabaddiSPLAThotmail.co.uk

(To recap for those that were not there, we were given a clue which led us to find this hotmail address. Once added to MSN messenger, we were required to "get into character" and onwards followed a conversation using lines from Casablanca, in order to get the keyword we needed.)


See, I think this is a perfectly valid idea and it is based on reasonable work. I am not so sure why this is considered bizarre or random spec or even a banana as if it has been passed over already.

I think that as the search for the cube moves out of the more directed puzzles-the ones that have neat answers like the puzzle cards do -- into the more intuitive solving that will eventually solve the META puzzles from the cards, we need to be more open to exploring ideas and hunches.

Spec is what fuels the solving process in those sorts of puzzles. Shutting down spec by greeting ideas with derision is the absolute worse possible thing to do. It is smarter to go down what may be a blind alley and possibly waste some time than it is to miss something. The PMs are not always going to hand things to us in neat packages.

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PS If you wonder why I am harping on this, I have a good reason. I went about a year ago out to Jones Beach to try to find something hidden there. I wasn't able to find it - I was expecting something big and obvious- but I was willing to go back, as were other people, to try to find it. The consensus from the boards and the chat was that the clue was no longer there because someone had hacked the page and that the game had moved on. Based on that assumption, we gave up exploring. I am sure at that point it would have been called a banana if that term,which I find a bit derisive and condescending, had then been in use.

I have later learned that we were wrong in that assumption. There had been something that I couldn't find in the bushes there and that we should have gone back to find it. The confident assessment of the situation as a "banana" in not having a clue or puzzle was wrong.

Luckily, at that early stage, the Jones Beach item was the sort of puzzle that could be corrected by the PMs in helping us move on- as we get deeper into the Cube puzzle, I don't think we can rely on them to produce those corrections.

So I am extra careful not to write off clues or puzzles until the game itself, through the story, makes it clear that those clues or puzzles either don't exist or have been passed by.
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rose wrote:
Luckily, at that early stage, the Jones Beach item was the sort of puzzle that could be corrected by the PMs in helping us move on- as we get deeper into the Cube puzzle, I don't think we can rely on them to produce those corrections.


Actually the only reason we moved on was someone searching for any URL containing the word Receda and stumbling accross the next part of the trail, the PMs didn't help us with that at all afaik.

And the reason I wrote this off as a puzzle from the beginning is that it would seem a bit distasteful to have a puzzle in a memorial page, it should be about remembering anna, not feeding us information. But if you continue and find something I will admit being incorrect and that I shouldn't have just given up straight away.

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