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[NEW|SPEC] Steorn.net claims Infinite Energy, ARG? Hoax?
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Nova Loop
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Re: deeper into the looking glass!

visualclarity wrote:
whois on steorn.com reveals an admin name "Sean McCarthy"
of contact address of:
Unit 12, Fumbally Court, Fumbally Lane
...
the phone number on the whois for Steorn.net's phone number is:
+353-1-664-1744 fax: +353-1-664-1809

If you look at an archived steorn.com site you see back in April 2004 both the address and the phone numbers were listed on their site.
My guess is that some time after April 2004 Steorn moved (went under/were bought out by ???) and so some one else moved into their old space and someone else got their old phone number.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:17 pm
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visualclarity
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I looked up Fumbally Court, Fumbally Lane.
Its nearby to the current office. Must be a previous office currently occupied by GHIVS.

Can't explain the fax number conincidence.
More hobbies for a man who solves the world with free energy in his free time? ;)

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"Very funny! Okay, if you people don't wanna take perpetual energy seriously, then fine! No power for you!"

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CPO Schwartz
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numbers

The new fax number on the steorn.net page is also the same as

http://unisonconsultants.com

where Roger Hatfield has the same role he does at Steorn

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Saevitia
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Interestingly, the fraudhalt website is now 'under reconstruction'.

By the way, IamNotNull, I was also toying with the idea that someone new had bought Sean's Name and company. (I think I mentioned it on the forum). But yeah, so I think that's a good theory.
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Re: numbers

CPO Schwartz wrote:
The new fax number on the steorn.net page is also the same as

http://unisonconsultants.com


Which is also hosted on the same server a steorn.com (and where steorn.org was).
Can also access site at: http://www.hostsme.com/~unisonco

If all of these companies are located in the same area and have the same benefactor then it is possible that there is no other connection. In fact that could even explain the same guy filling the same role in multiple compaines. Especially if the companies are being "incubated."

Saevitia wrote:
Interestingly, the fraudhalt website is now 'under reconstruction'.

Yeah, apparently has been that way since sometime between March and May 2004, at least according to archive.org records.

*Edit - combined two posts
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potostfbeyeluvr
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Wow, I go away for two days and come back to find that this thing has gone crazy.

I can't remember who said they didn't know if this was an ARG or not, but they felt sure it wasn't real. That's where I am right now.

Steorn was real at some point. Then someone, we don't know who, decided to make this claim, and wanted to use Steorn to do it. I can't help wondering if it couldn't be that Sean McCarthy wasn't bought, but was part of making the actual idea for this. It would explain why he was the CEO of real-steorn and fake-steorn. Whoever did this was very, very careful with the transition of power between real-steorn and fake-steorn, if this is an ARG, IMO.

Even if this isn't an ARG, I'll be following it carefully, just because the amount of detail for a fake claim amazes me. It amazes me so much, in fact, that I'm shocked that such talented forgers would have been silly enough as to put up fake news stories about themselves, but use the names of real papers with online archives to do it. That is, unless it is an ARG, and they wanted us to find it.

BTW, I was waiting to see if there would be any new clues when they translated the site to different languages, but as far as my poor German can tell, the pages don't have anything new.

I'll look at my cache and see if I have any of the pages from the now-closed areas of the site, and post them if I do.

I also found dubious looking source code in one of the formerly-open directories. (Dubious because it didn't fit any of the pages on the site.) It contained an email address, prSPLATsteorn.com, and I thought it was worth noting because I didn't see it referenced anywhere on the actual site. If I can find the source code in my cache, I'll post it here as well.

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oxdeltaxo
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pr as in public relations pr?

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Saevitia
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hmmm, pr as public relations sounds right. Still dosnt explain why its in souce but not revealed though.
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potostfbeyeluvr wrote:
Even if this isn't an ARG, I'll be following it carefully, just because the amount of detail for a fake claim amazes me. It amazes me so much, in fact, that I'm shocked that such talented forgers would have been silly enough as to put up fake news stories about themselves, but use the names of real papers with online archives to do it. That is, unless it is an ARG, and they wanted us to find it.


Usually with this kind of stuff, and even in movies, you have some guy making up "techno-babble" to fill in the text explaining what's going on, but a lot of the things that have been said so far in relation to this have been written by a real scientist. The descriptions, claims, and supposed results are using correct units and make sense and everything. I'm also going to be following this just out of curiosity to see where it goes. Maybe we'll have another cold fusion debacle(not the best article). =P

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potostfbeyeluvr
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oxdeltaxo wrote:
pr as in public relations pr?


*shrug* your guess is as good as mine.

I did find that code in my cache.

Quote:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
- <rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" version="2.0">
- <channel>
<title>Steorn Free Energy</title>
<link>http://www.steorn.net/downloads/</link>
<language>en-us</language>
<copyright>℗ & © 2006 Steorn Ltd.</copyright>
<itunes:subtitle>Steorn's revolutionary energy technology</itunes:subtitle>
<itunes:author>Steorn</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Documentaries on Steorn's revolutionary Free Energy technology - the science, the people, the challenge to the scientific community</itunes:summary>
<description>On August 18th, Steorn announced to the world that they are seeking scientists to verify their free energy technology. These documentaries take a serious look into the technology and the people behind it.</description>
- <itunes:owner>
<itunes:name>Steorn</itunes:name>
<itunes:email>prSPLATsteorn.com</itunes:email>
</itunes:owner>
<itunes:image href="http://www.steorn.net/images/video_t1.jpg" />
<itunes:category text="Technology" />
- <item>
<title>Steorn launches revolutionary free energy technology</title>
<itunes:author>Steorn</itunes:author>
<itunes:subtitle>Sean and Richard on Steorn's new energy technology</itunes:subtitle>
<itunes:summary>Documentary introducing Steorn's free energy technology. Sean and Richard discuss the difficulties and possibilities of the technology/</itunes:summary>
<enclosure url="http://www.steorn.net/downloads/steorn_webmovie_medium.mov" length="9302016" type="video/quicktime" />
<guid>http://www.steorn.net/downloads/steorn_webmovie_medium.mov</guid>
<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
<itunes:duration>5:03</itunes:duration>
<itunes:keywords>steorn magnets magnetic field energy clean free constant overunity renewable battery replacement</itunes:keywords>
</item>
</channel>
</rss>


Code isn't my thing, but if someone who is gifted in the area of code could explain what this might be, I'd appriciate it. It looks to me like they had their video up on itunes, but now I can't find it anywhere on the itunes site.

I'll look through my cache more later, but I have just about everything from the closed directories there, I think.

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Usually with this kind of stuff, and even in movies, you have some guy making up "techno-babble" to fill in the text explaining what's going on, but a lot of the things that have been said so far in relation to this have been written by a real scientist. The descriptions, claims, and supposed results are using correct units and make sense and everything. I'm also going to be following this just out of curiosity to see where it goes. Maybe we'll have another cold fusion debacle(not the best article). =P


Yes, all of the science details are impeccable. (Only making me wonder more if the real Sean McCarthy could have decided he wanted to start an ARG. Or maybe just fool everyone.)

You would think that they would have just written a fake article and hosted it themselves intead of taking the chance that we would look up the news outlets archives on that day, though, wouldn't you? It seems risky for a group taking such care in every other area of their site.

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potostfbeyeluvr wrote:
I did find that code in my cache.
Code:
Code here removed for brevity - ImNotNull

This appears just to be an RSS feed file for a podcast that is from a podcast that was basically just their little "movie."
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ImNotNull wrote:
potostfbeyeluvr wrote:
I did find that code in my cache.
Code:
Code here removed for brevity - ImNotNull

This appears just to be an RSS feed file for a podcast that is from a podcast that was basically just their little "movie."


Thanks. I noticed that it ran the same amount of time as the movie.

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For clarification...

Quote:
Hi Folks,

Our live chat event will take place at Noon BST, and not GMT as previously advised. Ireland and the UK are on British Summer Time which is an hour ahead of GMT.

We will release the link here when testing is complete.

Local Times:
12.00 British Summer Time
07.00 Eastern Time
04.00 Pacific Time
13.00 Central European Time
20.00 Japan Time

Thanks!

The Steorn Team


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"Due to the unavailability of our management team, we must delay the Live Chat Event by three hours."

Uh-huh.

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