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[oxdeltaxo]

Your probably right but there are ways to make sure that they are nuts.

[Bravil]

Yea this sounds kinda like somthing microsoft would do. i might have to watch this one

[colin]

well, the story is continuing to generate media interest. Including the predictable Irish energy miracle 'a joke'. One article caught my eye:

[Jas0n]

[oxdeltaxo]

There's also been talk that it's some sort of scam.....but it's unlikely consider the companies anti-fraud background.

[sunset90210]

[MondoPest]

Just an observation.

[Zanzibar]

Almost guaranteed. Each of the images shown when you click on the tabs at the top (Home, News, Forums etc) has a 'swirl' look to it, which corresponds to the swirling clouds over the relic in the Halo 3 Announcement Video.

The kicker: check out the image in the last tab, 'Register.' It's the only one without the swirl pattern. It is, however, a honeycomb.

Can you say "I Love Bees"?

[colin]

[Jas0n]

actually there are quite a few pages that aren't swirls.

(can't believe I'm spending more time on this trying to debunk it when I already know that it's not an arg)

Index page: swirling bamboo
forum page: two hands in sand
News page: Water - not swirling but rippling from a side view.
about page: swirls carved into a rock - looks more like what would represent eyes
technology page: nautilous shell cut away
downloads page: circular room with pillar in the middle
press: water bubbles - could consider it to be swirling
contact: circles in a log
register: honeycomb

- so yeah swirls, but not everywhere - and considering he describes the energy method as a cycle - then swirls are quite relative to what they're pushing.


Harvard has invited these guys in the past

DIT - that is Dublin institute of Technology has them listed as a sponsor in a student enterprise competition and labels them as a technology risk management company (fitting together with the counterfeitting technologies discussed at the Harvard conference) - note that this competition was launched October 2005 : http://www.dit.ie/studententerprise

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So you're telling me that Microsoft or whoever Microsoft hired to do the ARG / Viral Marketing campaign, has spent the past several years developing a bogus company which has developed a product for verifying which machine burned a cd/dvd with a particular optical device? They, also, sponsored a competition starting in 2005 at the Dublin Institute of Technology. Wow - not only is it absurd to do such a thing, but it is an absolute waste of time if the end goal is to use this company('s name) to market a 360 game that doesn't need THAT much hype?


Yeah ok I'm starting to believe that this is actually an ARG created by the most __________________________________________________ in the world.

Find something else to do rather than pester these people - it is more likely that they actually discovered perpetual energy than it is for Microsoft/4orty2wo/ or whoever else might be advertising for Halo 3 to have spent so much time and money developing this company to base an ARG off of.


(and hell I got razzed for an it's instead of its in my ARG and yet everyone seems to be so settled on this being an ARG when it is clearly improbable)

[oxdeltaxo]

[Jas0n]

and the rights to use someone's likeness for the ARG?

Something along these lines would cause Sean Mccarthy's name to be dragged through the mud and I would doubt he'd seriously be considered by many companies to represent them if he returns to technology risk management.

[Chewy]

[Nola]

I called... but did not get far

"Thank you for calling Steorn... if you would like information about Steorn, please visit our website at www.steorn.org, otherwise, please hold for an operator. (this call may be recorded for training purposes)... ring, ring... ring, ring.... all our operators are currently busy, your call will be answered by the next available operator...ring, ring... ring, ring...

Three more times of this and I hung up. I'll try again later.

Interesting detail: Steorn is not pronounced the way I thought it would be... the T has a CH sound.

[pneumatik]

The guys at Steorn could have decided that they didn't like doing whatever it was they were doing before, and instead wanted to do an ARG. I'm not sure how they would have been chosen to do another ILB-type ARG for Microsoft without any experience, though.

As far as the publications with Sean McCarthy on them, getting to talk at a Harvard-sponsored event doesn't mean their legitimate. Heck, Sean probably didn't go to the event himself. Being listed last means he either did some of the technical work that isn't interested by itself but was crucial to the research that the talk is about, or he paid for the research. I think it's the former.

I don't really see this as being about infinite energy. I can't imagine someone who has any experience with the academic world, like Sean does, deciding that the best way to prove your technology to the world is to let 12 people look at it. I can't imagine real physicists would verify that their invention really violates the first two laws of thermodynamics but not tell anyone about it. As far as the student enterprise contest, the cost of awarding the prizes is minimal compared to a large advertising campaign. And if this is a scam, I don't know how they expect to get away with it. Not only will all the publicity bring out more scientists explaining that free energy is impossible, but with all this publicity it will be really hard for the scammers to not get caught and arrested.