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[SPEC] Dale's Lastest Journal Entry and The 307 Symbol
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Sylvia
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[SPEC] Dale's Lastest Journal Entry and The 307 Symbol

Just some more or my weird thoughts and another place for us to discuss the subject.

The image from Dale's latest journal entry located here http://www.thewishcomic.com/images/diagram1.jpg

Notice the top row with the empty box - what I believe goes in that box is (the collective unconscious/collective memory/transpersonal memory.)

collective memory collective unconscious

While we are at it notice how there are 3 boxes at the top a circle in the middle and 7 boxes at the bottom. So we see the 307 symbol once again only this time from a different perspective.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:31 pm
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The meme?
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Sylvia
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MG, good idea. I never thought about the Meme but then I'm having a hard time grasping it's meaning.

The way I understand a meme is something like this:

It begins as an abstract thought, idea, emotion, etc. that is implanted into a society, group, etc. in hopes that they will consciously internalize it and if so the Meme then becomes manifest or accepted as real by the society, group, etc..

Where as the Collective Unconscious or Shared Memories (to be brief) is something we all have in common but are unaware of and only by the similarities of our dreams, symbols, etc., do we even come close to being aware of it, if ever.

But then it could be The Memes do go in that 3rd area of the image and together:

History + Mythology + Memes = Collective Unconscious = the circle in the middle from which reality evolves = the 7 areas at the bottom of the image.

I hope this made since, cause I'm not even sure it did to me.

Come on people any more ideas, because Dale seems to be asking for our help on this one:
Quote:
I'm not sure I want to try and explain it anyway, until I figure out what I'm missing in that one box in the top area. I've had about two dozen different things in there and erased them all along the way. None of them have felt right. So consider it a work in progress, I guess. Let me know if it makes any connections in your synapses in the meantime.


Oh, and before I forget it, has anyone contacted Dale with any ideas as to what might be in that third box?

Oh, and back to the 307 symbol, I found this interesting http://www.teosofia.com/Docs/vol-3-6.pdf

Especially the parts about the 3 lines of evolution and the 7 cosmical elements. Maybe totally unrelated but interesting none the less.

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Here's the suggestion I sent to Dale:
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After reading your latest entry and considering what might be missing, the only thing that would fit as a single word or concept is "folklore". That more intangible "bardish" need to put our own spin on a story. Not quite fitting into the strict confines of "history" or acknowledged to be a purely imaginary construct or "mythology". "Local Legend" would, at first, seem to fall into this category, but I feel it is more global than that. As an example, I'd offer up the curiosity that many cultures around the globe have a version of "The Flood Story", even though they have no historical common genesis.
Almost as if it were something coded into our very being.

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I suggested reality/realities. My thought was that the top three boxes are all directly connected to the center circle, Dale's dreams, which is a combination of legend, mythology, and reality.
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Sylvia
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I found the following to be interesting. It's a study into the "Global Mind" and it just happens to be taking place a Princeton University, Princeton NJ.

EGG or ElectroGaiaGram
Gathering of Global Mind

The Global Consciousness Project is also known as the EGG project

ElectroGaiaGram

And to help make connections, String Theory, Universal Mind, and the Paranormal

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Sylvia
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Saved the best for last.

While looking back over the board another one of Rogi's post lead me down another avenue of research.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=256398#256398
yep, check out the amazon link when you get time.

But here is what I found out.

Briefly, another take on the EGG, Plane (metaphysics)

But this is the main one.

Akashic records

Book of Life, Edgar Cayce Akashic Records

I want go into detail, I'm way to tired. But the stuff speaks for itself.

And now, Would somebody who is better at character interaction than I, PLEASE pass this info on to Dale and tell him this might be what is missing in that box on that image. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

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I kinda stopped investigating the stuff at Amazon when I saw the first reviewer's comment. An obvious shill post to help kick-off the conspiracy by looking like someone (ostensibly) at the CIA calling it hogwash. Maybe if that reviewer had commented on any other works, I'd have kept looking, but it was just too obvious as an attempt at marketing.

As for jumping down the Sufi rabbithole... I'm not up to it today, either. The tech stuff holds my attention better than the metaphysical. Anybody else want to pursue that avenue?
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I wanted to post this now before it is forgotten. For the next two weeks I am going to be pretty busy, my husband has several doctor appointments and the 20th is just around the corner. I don't know what is going to happen, good i hope then i will be around here everyday or so. But just in case i wanted to get this up for future reference.

Okay when i couldn't get anyone to email Dale with what i discovered above, i had no other choice but to do the best i could and this was it:
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:40:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Sylvia" <syl_vi_a[at]yahoo.com>
Subject: Meg and Your Drawing
To: "Dale Sprague" <dale[at]synthasia.com>

Hi Dale,

I have not corresponded with you much, but I feel that what I have
to say is very important. It may be a little wordy but I believe it
is important. Also, I'm not that good on a personal level, I do
better at "preaching to the choir" or in other words giving a
lecture. So if this comes out sounding anything like that, I'm
sorry, it's just my personal makeup and it's just how I am.

But first tell me about Meg. How is she doing? I can only imagine
how traumatic that must have been for her. I for one would have been
terrified spending a night or for that matter even a day lost in
the Pine Barrens. I can only imagine what impressions that has left
on her. But reading your last two journal entries, you don't
mention what might have gotten in to Meg to make her want to wonder
off into those woods all alone. I hope that you and Diana have not
gotten all wrapped up in yourselves again and forgotten about her
already. Remember you were the one that said she "only wants
honesty and to be let in on the big secrets." So please take time
to give her the attention she needs right now and allow her to talk
about her experiences with an understanding and caring heart.
Forget about accusing each other or anyone else right now because
Meg needs yours and Diana's undivided attention.

Aside from that, I have a theory as to why Meg may have went into
those god awful Pines in the first place. In your journal from
August 10, 2006 you said that you were "so honest with her about
certain points" that you were "afraid she would run and lock
herself in the bathroom or something." Well I believe that children
love their parents so much they will do anything to help them when
they are sad, hurt, sick, etc.. I believe that Meg felt that she
could some how help you by going to some place in the Pines related
to that map. Exactly how, I'm not sure. I do know that Keith gave
Meg something and it may have something to do with all this.
However, Keith pleaded for no one to tell anyone about it. His exact
words, "Please, please don't betray me and tell anyone or get her in
trouble. I don't want to lose her trust and friendship. It's all I
have left back there. But yes, she has something I gave her." Under
the circumstances I thought you should know. But perhaps you
shouldn't tell Diana at this point at least until you find out what
it is. I don't know if anyone else has informed you of this or not
but I thought you should know because how can you protect you
precious little girl if you don't know all the facts. I don't know
what it was that Keith gave her, but Meg might not be safe having
it in her possession. And being the good father that you are, I
thought you would want to know and I don't think parents should be
left in the dark when it comes to their children.

On top of all that, have you read Bruce's blog lately?
http://www.anonymousfame.com/iambruce/blog.html
I understand that Diana has been promoted to Marzent's new
Community Liaison. Personally, I believe Diana too is not safe. I
really think that you and Bruce need to put your differences aside
because I believe in the end Diana is also going to need your help.

Aside from all this, I have another theory about what is missing
from that box on the image you posted in the same journal entry or
more specifically this one

http://www.thewishcomic.com/images/diagram1.jpg.

I'm not sure this letter is the place to explain it but in the same journal
entry you mention that, "While she was hugging me I looked at the wall
behind her, where she had hung a family tree we made together for a
school project of hers last year. It inspired me to make this:" here you
place an image of the diagram.

If you think about how a family tree is arranged. It is like a
diagram that says the one at the bottom, in this case Meg, is a
wonderful mixture of all those who came before her, in this case
you and Diana, your parents, their parents and so on and so forth,
and Diana's parents, their parents, etc.. In other words Meg
contains some hint of all who came before her, yet she is at the
same time her own unique individual because she also has within her
all the things she has experienced since the time she came in to
existence, which I believe begins at the moment of conception, right
up to and including the Now. The Now is the place in space/time
where past and present and future blend, or in other words, this
very instant. The very nano of a second where we find ourselves in
what we call the present because only a nano second before was the
past and only a nano second later is the future. So at any instant
in time we are at the Now. Of course, this is my abbreviated
definition of the Now, and I may be missing the point. Actually,
I'm not that good at explaining things like this with words but
with my own diagrams I can do a better job. I've been know to spend
months on a problem making diagrams and notes and them wham It all
makes sense. But that works for me and the Now just happened to be
one of those problems I spent weeks making sense of.

But all of that aside and going back to that box on the diagram.
What I think is missing from that box is "Future Probabilities."
Which when combined with history / legend and mythology create a
concept that is know by many names. It is a record of all things
past present and future. Heck, I guess you could even call it the
Now. But during my research here is what I found out.

The Aksahic Records or "The Book of Life."

http://www.edgarcayce.org/about_ec/cayce_on/akashic/

I will quote the first paragraph of that page and you can read the
rest yourself to see if it makes since for that empty box on your
diagram.

"The Akashic Records or "The Book of Life" can be equated to the
universe's super computer system. It is this system that acts as
the central storehouse of all information for every individual who
has ever lived upon the earth. More than just a reservoir of
events, the Akashic Records contain every deed, word, feeling,
thought, and intent that has ever occurred at any time in the
history of the world. Much more than simply a memory storehouse,
however, these Akashic Records are interactive in that they have a
tremendous influence upon our everyday lives, our relationships,
our feelings and belief systems, and the potential realities we
draw toward us."

And this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_Records
"When viewing the future, the events are known, but the responses
are only probable. Based on an individual's responses in the past,
the Akashic seer/reader can investigate probable future responses
and give the highest future probability. A simple illustration of
this might be witnessing several alternate endings to the main
characters in a movie (e.g., Run, Lola, Run). At some point in the
evolution of the Akashic reader, however, a state of unification
and awareness can be achieved whereby even the future responses are
known with absolute clarity instead of only as a probability."

Like I said it has many names a few are:

the Cosmic Mind
the Universal Mind
the collective unconscious
the collective subconscious
The Book of Life

The last one can be a little decivous for each of us writes our
own Book of Life and these collectively become parts of the Akashic
Records. Therefore, it might be better to say The Book of Lives.

But regardless of what you call it, this is what I believe has you,
me and everyone else subconsciously attracting to ourselves the
events that unfold as we go along our life path. For you, these
events just happen to be in those seven boxes at the bottom of your
drawing. They are your children, they not only contain an element
of your thoughts, action, etc., but of every thing that has ever
happened in the past, present and future. For "what is was, what
was is and what is will be."

I hope this came out right it was/is difficult for me to explain
and I hope it helps you to solve that drawing of yours and help
you to untangle the chaotic mess.

Best Wishes,
Sylvia


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