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[UPDATE] The Ooze Zone 06/09/06 - Warning
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 		[UPDATE] The Ooze Zone 06/09/06 - Warning
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I'm not usually good at taking advice. If someone tells me to do something, I tend to do the opposite. This is why I've never tried parachute training.

But once in a while, a few wise words make it through my defences, whether I want them to or not.

A few days ago, one of you guys sent me a message. (Hi Rose.) I read it and ignored it, but it wouldn't leave me alone. It suggested that Anna might have been killed because of me. Instead of me. So I'm responsible for Anna's death.

That stayed with me. There's also, of course, the sense that I was the intended target and I had a narrow escape, which is unsettling. It occurred to me that I could be dead right now and not writing this, that my hands could be cold and still, not tapping away at this keypad.

I made the mistake of saying all this out loud when we were out for a drink the other night. She took it the wrong way and called me, in her own roundabout manner, a coward. After some consideration, I was forced to agree with her. I've had enough. I want out. I've nearly been killed and Death has trailed behind me. I'm a menace.

She's hardly playing safe herself, but at least she seems to have some clear ideal she's aiming towards, something to have faith in, something to make it seem worthwhile. I never had that. I just had her.

Rose's message also suggested that we were set up: "It seems possible to me that, due to the number of people who knew you were involved in tracing the parts, the attack and murder of Anna was planned. I think that your whole mission had been betrayed by someone. I think you guys were expected and watched." That's the most worrying thing. I can't read anyone in this game, so I'm folding.

Keep in touch. I'll be around.

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 		Re: [UPDATE] The Ooze Zone 06/09/06 - Warning
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I'm not usually good at taking advice. If someone tells me to do something, I tend to do the opposite. This is why I've never tried parachute training.

But once in a while, a few wise words make it through my defences, whether I want them to or not.

A few days ago, one of you guys sent me a message. (Hi Rose.) I read it and ignored it, but it wouldn't leave me alone. It suggested that Anna might have been killed because of me. Instead of me. So I'm responsible for Anna's death.

That stayed with me. There's also, of course, the sense that I was the intended target and I had a narrow escape, which is unsettling. It occurred to me that I could be dead right now and not writing this, that my hands could be cold and still, not tapping away at this keypad.

I made the mistake of saying all this out loud when we were out for a drink the other night. She took it the wrong way and called me, in her own roundabout manner, a coward. After some consideration, I was forced to agree with her. I've had enough. I want out. I've nearly been killed and Death has trailed behind me. I'm a menace.

She's hardly playing safe herself, but at least she seems to have some clear ideal she's aiming towards, something to have faith in, something to make it seem worthwhile. I never had that. I just had her.

Rose's message also suggested that we were set up: "It seems possible to me that, due to the number of people who knew you were involved in tracing the parts, the attack and murder of Anna was planned. I think that your whole mission had been betrayed by someone. I think you guys were expected and watched." That's the most worrying thing. I can't read anyone in this game, so I'm folding.

Keep in touch. I'll be around.

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Uhh.

I've just decided to believe that MC needed a reason to get him out of the picture - presumably he's not useful any more, or something.

Because if we just scared one of our allies off.... >.>

Also - I make first call on 'look at the next victim'.
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 		I presume the "she" is Violet? I'm not sure that backing off will make him any safer, it seems like a rather confused knee-jerk reaction. Rose can you post a copy of your mail? It might make his response clearer. I think we can convince him to come back if we need him, they all have wobbles every now and then. The question is when is best.
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Mikeyj wrote:
I presume the "she" is Violet?


always.. he never speaks of "her" by name
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I didn't expect him to answer me.

What follows is all spec:
Either Anna was the intended victim or she wasn't.


If she was: why?
The only unique knowledge (of that group) that she had that I am aware of is the additions to the cards in the 4th wave (and the earlier waves). (cf. leaked emails between Sente and Anna.) I don't know if it is possible for the 3P to see the cards as we see them. If not, they needed a way to find out what was on the cards.

She also knows the contents of the last page of the Granier Diary. Cymbalisty was killed for that page. Scarlett knows the contents of that as well. But, that cat is out of the bag so why kill for it now.

If she wasn't the intended victim: why torture her? What information could they have needed so badly that they couldn't obtain otherwise? The torture makes it likely that she wasn't killed simply because she accidentally saw something she shouldn't have.

Some other thoughts:
The people blackmailing Karen didn't stop watching her for information - they had to be monitoring her activities once Kurt arrived. Also, it is slightly possible that Karen was keeping her blackmailers informed as they went along. Possibly even one of them suggested the plan to track the equipment to her. I have always found it strange the Henrik agreed so readily to this plan.

I have been wondering where the funding for all this came from, the money to buy the parts, etc. I recall a very early Sentinel article about a woman who left a vast fortune to the Academy and the Center to research and create a way to send objects to Earth. While the Academy's ethics committee was reported to have rejected this bequest, we know now how misinformed the Sentinel as far as "official" pronouncements go.

Here is my original email mailed on August 24th:

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Hi. I followed your blog for a while. I am sure this has occurred to you, but, I would feel silly if I didn't mention it.

It seems possible to me that, due to the number of people who knew you were involved in tracing the parts, the attack and murder of Anna was planned. I think that your whole mission had been betrayed by someone. I think you guys were expected and watched.

That also leads me to the conclusion that perhaps those watchers were after you instead of Anna. Even though you ran after them, presumably they couldn't capture you without making a scene. They needed to know how much your group knew, so they took Anna instead.

This isn't meant to blame or upset you. Now that I read it, I realize it sounds harsh. All I mean to say is be careful. Watch your back and figure out who might have set you up. Your Earth friends will help as much as we can.

Take care,

Rose


I got the standard reply:

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Hey,

You mailed me. I got it. With luck, I'll get round to reading it. And if I
have anything useful to say in return, I'll send you a message right back.

Cheers,

Caine


I still suspect that Caine may have been involved as a mole in the little group. I couldn't come out and accuse him in the email so I did the next best thing by pointing out the correlation of Anna's death and his actions.

I think the main story reason for his decision is to echo the point made by Karen in Kurt's most reason update -the question of why the blackmailers disappeared as she was getting good information- they are asking us to wonder why things that don't make sense are happening. We need to start thinking about the story as a whole.

I'm sure the PMs are happy to heighten the tension a bit by increasing the fear/paranoia level. (I'm quite sure that the players can't scare off the allies in the story - Caine is smart enough to put this together himself -the PMs can easily ignore any email that doesn't fit into the story plan.)

I think that Violet or someone will be able to bring him back into the fold using the argument of "we have to catch Anna's killer."
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 		Great job Rose! You made Caine cry! It was said that no one is able to do it, but you proved them wrong! Well, I would guess that no one is stupid enough to mistake Caine for Anna (simple anatomy!) Unless it was dark, I don't know if it was nighttime in Perplex City, but in New York, it was light if I remember correctly. So maybe it wasn't an accident?
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Well, I would guess that no one is stupid enough to mistake Caine for Anna (simple anatomy!)


I'm not sure what you mean. The idea that Anna was the intended target requires that Caine knew about that plan and intentionally crashed the car.

If Caine was the intended target, the murderers would have been following him and would have known he crashed the car and Anna came in as a substitute. If he was the target, then he would still be in danger.

If Anna or Caine wasn't the specific target - then they would have been happy to get anyone of them.
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 		........... you mean, no more Caine?!?! Sad *cries*



*goes to compose begging-him-to-stay-involved email...*


*feels pathetic*


*gets over it* (but realises how annoying it is continually using asterisks to denote emotions/actions...)
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rose wrote:
I have been wondering where the funding for all this came from, the money to buy the parts, etc. I recall a very early Sentinel article about a woman who left a vast fortune to the Academy and the Center to research and create a way to send objects to Earth. While the Academy's ethics committee was reported to have rejected this bequest, we know now how misinformed the Sentinel as far as "official" pronouncements go.


Thought you might like a link for that spec: Coralhouse leaves tonnes of money to fund getting stuff to earth.

TBH, I'd guess the money comes from much older sources - secret societies have a way of accumulating wealth over the years. For Coralhouse's money to go missing the entire CRR would have to be in on it. Which is entirely possible these days.

If I were an evil organisation that suddenly desired to interrogate one of the good guys, personally I'd pick up Anna quietly and then threaten her kids to make her keep quiet. I'll admit that Caine's car crash immediately screamed 'convenient' at me but I just can't see this as being an elaboratae 3P ploy to snatch Anna (or any CRT member other than Caine), too much could have gone wrong. That and my money's been on Violet as a mole for a long time, I ain't switching easily. Whatever their motivation, (either Caine's a mole or) they've scared off someone helping us, surely a general 3P goal that a nasty grisly death accomplishes well.

That being said, I'm also sure we could persuade Caine to come back, either along the lines of "that's what the Third Power would want" or "we know what you did last Lighting of the Way, Tristan". Twisted Evil

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 		Re: thoughts
rose wrote:

If she wasn't the intended victim: why torture her? What information could they have needed so badly that they couldn't obtain otherwise? The torture makes it likely that she wasn't killed simply because she accidentally saw something she shouldn't have.


When it comes to torture I always think of V and his murder of Monica. Her death was long and messy too. Monica was killed out of retribution for a failure and to tidy-up loose ends. Could Anna's death indicate that she was complicit? Of course this means I have to think up something that she did/didn't do that would have be of an advantage to the 3P, which I can't, but it is another possibility.
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I have a whole META spec thing tying all the murders and the parts together that I am working on when I have a chance.

It did occur to me that Anna is valuable source of information just because of her position in the CRT and her possible role as a successor to Sente when he retires.

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PuzzledPineapple wrote:

That being said, I'm also sure we could persuade Caine to come back, either along the lines of "that's what the Third Power would want" or "we know what you did last Lighting of the Way, Tristan". Twisted Evil


How's this work, then?

Me (ananymously) wrote:

You don't have to be active in figuring out what the Third Power wants with Academy tech - just keep your eyes and ears open for anything suspicious and let us know.

But it would be highly indavisable to terminate the relationship completely.

You see, we know what you did last Lighting of the Way, Tristan . . .

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