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oraclle
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Wabonan wrote:
....Plus if he wanted protetction he should have gotten dogs ...Unless this is an egyptian ref....lol


I'd guess that if anything it's a reference to witches - the doc has familiar Smile

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randomtrickpony
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Little OOG here, but...ya, I agree about the no finding thing Mycro. We should play out the game as it stands for right now (you wouldn't want to flip all the way to the end of a good novel just yet, now would you?)

See, the doctor has clearly told us that looking for him will not help. But he IS leaving us clues about his location...which leads me to believe that:

A. this will lure out AV whether the doctor wants it or not, helping us out, and is therefore part of the game

B. the doctor is telling us these things because he wants to do a drop for us

Could the cat be a reference to the "Cat's Paw" story, meaning"fall guy"? (the monkey ref. makes me wonder)

*goes back to lurking*

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Damn you Dr!!

/me shakes her fist at the forum

i can't stay away. but i can't watch any of the videos. but this is too interesting to walk away from. grrrr. i want to be involved, someone suggest to the dr that he could leave a few non-video clues for some of us who have a youtube handicap?

EDIT: and not everyone gets kittens, some people go to the pound or humane society and get an older kitty...then there's always opening your home up to a stray; my boyfriend's parents have four cats that were all strays.
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He said in his most recent chat with AngBa that the cat was a gift from one of his research assistants.

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ardiente
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randomtrickpony wrote:
Little OOG here, but...ya, I agree about the no finding thing Mycro. We should play out the game as it stands for right now (you wouldn't want to flip all the way to the end of a good novel just yet, now would you?)


Yeah, good call. And nice work everyone. Being in a different time zone means picking up a lot of threads, but the most interesting thing for me at the moment, is that I'm getting a really different view of Houston to the one I'm familiar with from other media. I really like the dr's photos, though where they lead us I'm not sure yet.

Just going back to the dr's Skull House video for a moment: is it me, or does the music in the background appear to be coming from within the house itself. Is it some kind of clubhouse?

By the way, quick thinking AngBa, thanks for catching that - nihil is the name on the yahoo email account I've been using. Guess, that stirs a little more paranoia into the doctor's pot. I think you may be right though, about having missed something in the evidence we've already been given, so that's where I'm going to put my energies now. Still, going to be a bit hard-nosed with Jochen about his past though...

AV's quotation of Rostand infers that this is some kind of key - the doctor is a biologist and Rostand was a family friend. Presumably, this is the family that took charge of him after his father died - who is this family? They wanted him to become a priest, but there are no other details yet.

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(Sorry, but I do think this might mean something) Interesting fact about that cat (for those that know their kitties)...it's a MALE tortoiseshell (the Dr. clearly says this in the last line, where before he had always called the cat "it").

Male tortoiseshells are not very common at all, due to certain color-linked genetics factors (additionally, you cannot even clone a tortoiseshell and end up with one). For a full genetic articles on this very subject see http://www.messybeast.com/tricolours.htm and... http://www.messybeast.com/mosaicism.htm

See a reasoning behind this, or am I aimless in the forest?
(ya, I was going to lurk...but it's not working...)

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randomtrickpony wrote:


See a reasoning behind this, or am I aimless in the forest?
(ya, I was going to lurk...but it's not working...)


Very interesting indeed! That the doctor's 'familiar' should be a genetic aberration seems very apt!

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you rock, Randomtrickpony! I think your thoughts are right on.

or, the Dr could actually be my grandmother, who has called all of our family cats "he" even though we have never owned a male cat and repeatedly tell her that our cats are "shes."
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I could be WAY off track here, but I think his assistant gave him the cat just so he wouldn't feel so alone in the new city. No one he works with knows anything about AV - The PM has invested a lot of time in trying to create a full personality and rather close interaction with the players. It's my guess that he saw my youtube profile where I have posted videos of my cat who had 2 litters of kittens within about 6 months (don't ask...) and used Monkey as another means to create some type of relationship/trust with me.

Of course I could be wrong - also, I am looking and don't see the Dr's reflection...


ETA: Also, I don't think we need to go hunting the Dr. down just yet... But I would gear up for a drop pretty quick.
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Alright... The game finally grabbed me...

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I could be WAY off track here, but I think his assistant gave him the cat just so he wouldn't feel so alone in the new city.


I had a really good friend in the Air Force that was a full blown Wiccan... Cats are EXTREMELY symbolic in that faith. It is believed that cats are mystical creatures that could protect people (i'm guessing thats why you always see a black cat with a witch in all the pictures). Unless my friend is just plain wrong, i do believe this is what the good doctor was referring to when he said to "protect" him (plus, if i do recall, he did say something about starting to study Wiccan...)
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DetroitLegend wrote:
(plus, if i do recall, he did say something about starting to study Wiccan...)


Well, I think he is just casting around all sorts of references at the moment - he is a scientist curious about the hold ALL kinds of religion has over people. He's also rather paranoid, being chased by a shady entity that employs a cryptic means to communicate with him, so you might forgive him seeking information from way outside his normal orbit. But I don't think he's seriously studying it. Not yet.

He does seem a bit innocent, reacting to the skulls and the backyards of Houston like a child who's never been out of his neighbourhood. A spiritualist?! Well, Jochen... uh... they do live all over the place. Pretty much any city really... and usually in the poorer areas of town. I think this tells us something about his background.

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Hmm, i don't want to get snarky here, but i'm not sure if you can generalize that spiritualists are usually from the poorer area of town. I agree that it may tell us something about his background, but as someone who has lived in a lot of different areas in the US, i can say that there are certain towns that i have lived in that are more accepting of a spiritualistic subculture than others. it had more to do with political philosophies than incomes.

There were towns that i lived in that had absolutely no alternative cultures, no spiritual people, no cool bookstores, etc. But there was no shortage of plaid shirts and cowboy boots. Then there were other towns that i've lived in that was full of all sorts of different people, Bread Not Bombs food stands, tarot card readers, crystal shops. Those towns would definitely consider blue to be their favorite color.
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AngBa wrote:
I could be WAY off track here, but I think his assistant gave him the cat just so he wouldn't feel so alone in the new city.
Of course I could be wrong - also, I am looking and don't see the Dr's reflection...


You could be correct. I was just throwing that out there seeing as he's into Evo-Devo and the tortoiseshell pattern is related to fetal development. I do agree that there is a pagan ref. here to 'protection' by the cat. But normally an individual picks their own familiar, not has it given to them (perhaps the doctor just got lucky?) It is common, I believe, for most familiars to look 'special' or 'unusual' in some way. This cat certainly is!

Yes...I could be reading more into it, but I wanted to make sure I put that out there,seeing as it does 'appear' to have a connection.

Oh, AngBa...look in the cat's left eye...you can see the doctor's hand.

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normally an individual picks their own familiar, not has it given to them (perhaps the doctor just got lucky?) It is common, I believe, for most familiars to look 'special' or 'unusual' in some way. This cat certainly is!


I completely agree, but a cat is by far the most common, due to the fact that Wiccan's beleive that cat's can sense "spirits" before humans can, which also explains the protection belief. If you go back far enough, there's even a belief that a "witch" can turn themselves into a cat nine times in their human lifetime (hence the "9 lives" of a cat)...
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hyexistenz wrote:
Hmm, i don't want to get snarky here, but i'm not sure if you can generalize that spiritualists are usually from the poorer area of town.


You are right... It was just an offhand comment of mine and probably too much of a generalisation. In my defence, I used to live in a squat opposite a spiritualist church. It was a pretty rough end of London and it tended to be the case, that the further away from home I got, the fewer adverts for psychics and whatnot I saw Smile

The point of my post was really to emphasise Jochen's apparent naivety, and suggest that this points to a somewhat protected childhood and upbringing. A scientist, or indeed anyone commited to a vocation, might lead a cloistered existence. But in Jochen's case, I think its fair to speculate about what he might have been protected from. And by whom.

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