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toadlguy
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Guys - someone jacked the ans. machine - not that hard. She confirmed the rst on her YouTube account. This last message is a dead end and there wasn't really anything in it that didn't take wild speculation - cassie has been pretty clear as far as leaving clues and such.

What I mean is the 2nd video and find of the page from Numbers was confirmed with I SEE YOU AGAIN:

The rest she has said explicitly is wrong - I think we can take this at face value. She (or whoever) whether connected with the Creators or not is trying to PM an interesting ARG but running into some serious game jacking due to the popularity of all this.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:04 pm
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bd86
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rachelalexis wrote:
Are we thinking "someone changed my message" means that someone changed what she dropped at the site, making us call a number picked by a gamejacker and get the "wrong message"? Since she says she only speaks "here" meaning, most likely, youtube, that would mean that all this call business "isn't her."


That brings up more issues then, like why would someone change the message? Or, how did they get there and leave a fake clue that looks so much like the picture that she put up showing us exactly where the clue was?

Methinks Cassie may be BSing.


I doubt if it wasnt the real number judge by cassie quick reponses she didnt say anything when the number was posted

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brandoblues
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well we are back to square one just like after her dead drop at the creek was jacked. a total waste of time deciphering more bogus clues.

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graverubber
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so, if cassie is to be taken at her word, are we to believe that someone either planted another false clue, or that the interpretation of the page from the book of numbers was misinterpreted? perhaps this should have been deciphered closer to the line of reasoning that ravensgrace was following in the other thread at page 36. did we inadvertantly call a complete stranger and flood their mailbox for days with this nonsense, infuriating them to the point that they'd like to screw with our heads? i don't think so. i think that we are all playing in good faith and that cassie is trying to cause more confusion. if the message is a "lie" according to YT cassie, and everything else is a "lie" does that mean we can put as much faith in the mutterings of MS cassie as we can into her last voice message?

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toadlguy
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graverubber - what crap. Read my post above. there is no evidence for what you are saying.

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Phaedra
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toadlguy wrote:
graverubber - what crap. Read my post above. there is no evidence for what you are saying.


Hey.

Keep it civil, please.
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toadlguy
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Phaedra wrote:

Hey.

Keep it civil, please.


My apologies, but I have been on enough financial boards that (and I am not saying that is wht's happening here) but when someone new makes a whole bunch of illogical and un fact based arguments and then says we might just as well do X - where X is what they want you to do with no argument for X - they are usually a shill in this case trying to mess up whatever ARG there is still.

And graverubber - if that's not your intent my apologies to you too.

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Phaedra
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toadlguy wrote:
My apologies, but I have been on enough financial boards that (and I am not saying that is wht's happening here) but when someone new makes a whole bunch of illogical and un fact based arguments and then says we might just as well do X - where X is what they want you to do with no argument for X - they are usually a shill in this case trying to mess up whatever ARG there is still.

And graverubber - if that's not your intent my apologies to you too.


Smile The following is intended for everyone, since this isn't the first time that the discussion of this game has put a toe or two across the line separating "heated but civil" from "sorta nasty."

I understand the frustration of dealing with illogical arguments and those based on claims that are not factually supported.

But upon encountering one of those, it's perhaps more tactful -- and less likely to provoke hostile, rather than civil, disagreement -- if you simply address the points you find illogical with the evidence to the contrary and refrain from labeling the argument or the poster "illogical" or "absurd" or using terms like "load of crap."

It lets everyone save face and play nicely together.

Also, it allows us to respect the diversity of opinion often shown here while still being able to disagree.

And speculation, which we value here, is not always fact-based. Sometimes it's based on a hunch. And every so often, the hunches turn out to be right. Wink
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grantsnx
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I think the YT Cassie is trying to say that she is the only official unofficial Cassie.. you see what I mean? Laughing

If The Creators aren't lying, I wonder what the Real Cassie is going to be like? She's obviously going to be in the story (Children of Anchor Cove craigslist ad) but what if she ends up being something completely different than cassieiswatching? Like a nice girl like Bree or something. Laughing I'd have a hard time coping.

Well if Cassie does stay in the LG15 story, The Creators would probably change her name to avoid confusion? Who knows? Maybe a retcon..

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graverubber
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no appolgies nercessary. this has stirred up a lot of debate. i personally don't put credence in the MS cassie, but if as YT cassie is saying eveyone is a liar, then there are few things we CAN take at face value, perhaps even the veracity of the second clue from the park.

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lindsay.dainie
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I agree with the voicemail jacking theory. It does seem awfully odd that 4 people at midnight would mysteriously get 'call backs' and then go into all kinds of speculation on 'what it means' in the middle of the night when none of the experienced ARG people are online. It also explains why it seems only these four people got phone calls; the only person you'd think she'd actually call is the person who picked up the clue (Cu and scdgoofy).

Although I think the only meaning behind the message was that everyone is supposed to keep playing, it might be beneficial to try and figure out who hacked into her voicemail.

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graverubber
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perhaps the voicemail jacking is in game, and sorting out who her enemies are will lead to further development of the story.

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AngBa
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Well, if you try and call the number now - it just gives you an automated message to leave a VM for the person at the number - and I suppose you could if you wanted to. I just hung up.
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grantsnx
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graverubber wrote:
perhaps the voicemail jacking is in game, and sorting out who her enemies are will lead to further development of the story.


But if it was ingame it would make so much more sense to introduce an antagonist to cassie (who knows, cassie might even be the antagonist of the LG15 saga? or even bree + daniel) before something like this.

I don't think that Bree or Daniel would really hack someone's voicemail so it can't be them.

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moeru
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Cassie apparently last logged in 1hr ago (2:26 pm CST).

Bree now has a MS as well. Haven't visited it yet though myself. Wasn't sure how known this was. You guys got me severely hooked on this Embarassed

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