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chazzsmom99
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Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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Location: near the Oregon border of California

Spacebass, thank you so much for letting us discuss the game, postive and negative. We ragers are a loyal lot; when we like something, we stick with it. When we critique, we try very hard not to be mean about it--that's not what gaming is about. When we were cut off from our forum, we were like fish out of water!! It still has not been reinstated, and this forum gives us a chance to discuss it. From what I read on other posts, the people here are similar.

I had a couple people email me, and I have been pointing them to this forum--they like puzzles and mysterys also and I hope they find the games here to their liking as I have.

You've done a super job with this site!!

Peggi

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RedHatty
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Okay - I have been trying to set up a forum for us, but I am having technical difficulties, so until then...

First, ALL winners need to immediately file a complaint with the California State Attorney General's office, department of consumer affairs and offer to provide a copy any correspondence they received from the attorney or DR staff.
We ALL need to file online now.

Second, I would suggest that winners who have not been paid immediately (and I mean immediately) send an email to either the
Hollywood Reporter or Daily Variety and tell them what is going on with Riddle Productions bouncing checks and not paying out for the winners. You should, somehow, squeeze into their opening paragraph "Emmy Award Nominated internet game company is not paying their game winners." THAT will get an article written. If they have now in fact teamed up with MTV, MTV will not want that kind of publicity and might be willing to front money to get rid of this story.

You can also file a fraud complaint with the I3C - the internet fraud center, the Better Business Bureau and Computer Crime & Intellectual Property Section United States Department of Justice, Federal Trade Commission, National Fraud Information Center, FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center, The National Consumer Complaint Center for Internet Fraud, False Advertising and Breached Warranties and/or CCIPS Reporting Internet Crime

Edit to add, you can also contact
MTV Networks
1515 Broadway
New York, NY 10036
(212) 258-8000
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:11 am
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wench
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Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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phew I have my connection back let me try this again,,,,,


Messages from my secret legal friend to you folks:

Quote:
You can hold their breath and wait,
but all that will happen is that the statute of limitations will run.
You all need to move NOW.

Basically they have committed internet fraud, marketing and advertising
fraud. It IS a violation of the California Business & Professions Code,
opening them to treble damages.

Filing with law enforcement and the State Attorney General should start NOW.

Additionally I am providing you with the corporate filing information for
the company (below).

Their attorney of service is listed there - it's the Patel law firm.

A demand letter should[b] NOT
be sent to their in house attorney (Bauer) but instead to that law firm, certified mail.

Let the company start incurring attorneys fees in dealing with this - it's likely that the law firm will advise them that they have a legal obligation to pay, or they may be subject to treble damages and/or criminal actions.

As for the current game, if they are "loading" the winners so they don't
have to pay out (I read about the same names appearing multiple times), then anyone can summarize what is going on, give the web address of the game site and send a complaint to the California Attorney General and report it.

It can also be reported to the FBI in Los Angeles for investigation of federal crimes (acts of deception involving the internet). [/b]


with all this if you cannot find the corporate filing information for
the company
Contact myself, or Red, This will avoid posting it directly here on this forum.

Shocked


Now for those of you that follow through with this and receive your winnings, My Birthday and my friends birthday is just a few days apart in January. lol Rock On

I will be around for any assistance within my limits.

Start typing people ...........

be safe out there!
wench

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:01 am
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nathanratcliffe
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Joined: 08 Mar 2007
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new game today!

Hey everyone... I thought you'd like to know that I have a new original game that begins in like an hour. Its in the new MTV format (ie no chests, eggs, clues) but I'm still really proud of it, and I'd argue that its my best game to date. Though I see many of you are frusterated by the game and lack of funds (because thats what it is a lack of funds, even the DESIGNERS aren't getting paid) all I can ask of you is to keep making a fuss about the new format. IF I could spout out a reason for the current lameness to the game it would be that there are too many cooks in the kitchen. Too many ideas being thrown about and too much assumption on the part of the same people that since the game is on MTV, it should be simplified. I would love to hear your specific feedback about the game and where you think it should go. Examples of other games you like, etc... The game is not set in stone major changes to how the game is played will occur within a few weeks. MTV is not making the game lame (others who I will not mention) are. You can take whatever actions you want, if you are owed money, but know that it is only hurting the company's ability to focus on its projects and to expand into a legitimate production company. There are a lot of games on the internet, but not many like daily Rage, where there are new games and skins EVERY DAY. If Riddle gets hit with a million legal claims and goes under the only thing that will happen is there will be one less company out of a very VERY small pool of companies who's soul focus is to create new dynamic gaming content on a DAILY basis on the internet. Find me another company making DAILY games. Everyone has to be patient. I've always been totally candid with the forums and I will continue to be, but I'll also defend what I've worked so hard for. I'm glad to see so many of you here, I hope I'm not coming across as mad, I'm just trying to explain things from a different end (the creative end, not the legal end....boooring) I just want to make incredible games. I want to make very involving intelligent games that people become totally immersed and obsessed with. I want a dedicated community that takes an active role in the way these games are made and played. I really believe Riddle will get there. They aren't there right now by any means, but certain things have to happen to get there and one of those is funding. The deal with MTV will hopefully yield that. Sorry this is so long, play my game! Let me know what you think! Give me feedback. I'm not telling anyone else at Riddle about this forum so dont worry. Wendy gave me the link, and I wouldn't want to break her trust.

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RedHatty
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Hi Nathan! First, let me say we love the designers (especially you) and your work. That said, it is he company that we are having an issue with. In researching many aspects of this situation, it comes to light that since RP/DR chose to create a game in a sweepstakes format, that the monies promised for prizes SHOULD have been secured in an escrow account before the game was ever even launched.

While I loved the old rage, the new, well, frankly it sux.

But it matters not what RP/DR is trying to accomplish, if they are doing it in the wrong way, it's wrong. Issueing bad checks is illegal. Not paying winners is wrong, lying to them about it is even more wrong.

At least you know you will have a great resume in the future Smile Unfortunately, you might need it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:36 am
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drakkenblud
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Joined: 14 Mar 2007
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Nathan,

As always your designs are wonderful.

Game still sucks and I won't play it just because I like the artwork.

Time is the most valuable commodity we have, I certainly won't be wasting it on this new format.

Cheers!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:20 am
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RedHatty
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What the H*** Is Going On?????
2 winners list from 2 different computers - totally different

wench (jan) and I were chatting & realized we were looking at 2 completely different winners lists for the 3/14/07 game

My first screen

My winners list

Notice that the daily winner on my list is Terri B Slingerland

Jan's first screen

Jan's winner's list

Notice that the daily winner here is Janet Berard

So who is the REAL winner?

These are all available on my flickr site larger versions are available there Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:37 am
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konamouse
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The games aren't the biggest problem. A good site can host games and people will play WITHOUT prizes.

Why promise prizes that they cannot afford to give? That's fraud.

Instead, they should be honest and just announce best scores for the day (not sweepstakes winners). And take away any mention of $$$.

As for the different winners lists.....smells fishy.

I don't go to the site cause it takes up a lot of bandwidth (everything else on my computer runs slow) even on cable modem.
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wench
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Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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Quote:
You can take whatever actions you want, if you are owed money, but know that it is only hurting the company's ability to focus on its projects and to expand into a legitimate production company.


Ditto,
The company should have had the funds in an escrow.

On another note, The game format of the game suxz
the music suxz
the slot machines suxz
AND NOW I am finding out that your daily winners boards seem to have a MAJOR Glitch!

And one even another note,
Last night while playing your suxky game, in the slot machine I had the following numbers come out
025136
0251 dropped so I entered 63
HA they didnt drop
so maybe I made a mistake writing them down I re-entered 36
they didnt drop

So okay, the more I look at it the more pizzed I am getting because why bother to play when you game cheats you. This isnt the first time this happened, and by far not the most bizzar.
The most Bizzar was when 5 numbers dropped on the second spin and the 5th number just sat there wouldnt go into the slot.

so thinking about it and looking at it I decided to call your Tech support,

Well I may have just as well gone out and cleaned an outhouse cause that how I felt when I got off the phone really chytty

First off I explained the situation ans stated that I was not sure who I would need to talk to, possibly someone in Tech support.

Your employee told me he couldn't give out that information
???
I wanted to report a problem and speak to someone,,,,, maybe this dude didnt understand me or hear me correctly.

So I explain a little clearer that I wish to speak to someone in Tech support,
Your employee told me he couldnt give out that information to just anyone, I could be anybody he would take my name and number and give it to "Marketing"

Hmmmmmmm Then I ask "is there anyone there in Tech support?"
your employee: " All I do is read books"
me: " what are your hours of operation? what time is a good time to call back and talk to someone for some assistance?"
your employee: " I cannot give out that information, just give me your name and phone number and someone from Marketing will call you back soon"

a few more words were exchanged and he appreciated that I would call to report a problem and he wished more people would do this.
then his tone got a little hostile, I explained he didn't have to take that tone with me. he states and I quote!

Quote:
All I do is read books


I politely told him to have a good evening reading his book, I wouldnt ask for help again.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:53 am
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tcandkk
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Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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There were two winners listed for 3/10 for a while also. It depends on what URL you use. The ones I know of so far:

The different winners I saw were on dailyrage.com and www.dailyrage.com

dailyrage.com
www.dailyrage.com
dailyrage.mtv.com (from the official email)
riddleproductions.net/dailyraid/

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:08 pm
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catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee

Joined: 25 Sep 2002
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Location: Silicon Valley, CA

wench wrote:
...your daily winners boards...
...your suxky game...
...your Tech support...
...Your employee...

Just to clarify, for random visitors here, this is not our game. Unfiction is not affiliated with Daily Rage. Unfiction is mainly a discussion board for ARGs, and Daily Rage isn't even an ARG.

A gentle reminder: There was another contest thread not too long ago that was repeatedly locked when the discussions grew too vile and out of control. We're glad you feel welcome to discuss other diversions here, and feel safe in laying bare your feelings about this issue, but please don't direct your anger at us.

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RedHatty
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Stranger & Stranger

All of a sudden they have all been changed to show Janet berard as the daily winner - congrats wench! Good luck getting the money though Sad
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wench
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Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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catherwood
am I confused or was there anything in my post directed to ARG?
I really dont think so.
I even believe that I was addressing a quote from someone else.


Moving on,

Thank you Red, I wont hold my breath, nor will I depend on funds that I dont have or may never receive.

I will just continue to help you folks out as much as possible.

be safe

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MARY49ERFAN
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Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Location: MERCED,CALIFORNIA

Just to say Hi to some old friend's from stranger's and wish they hurry up with the new forum! Played 5 game's now won't come up at all!

Nice to meet you all ! cya around

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chazzsmom99
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Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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Hi, Mary!! Nice to hear from you! I try to get over here at least once a day, but, been buzzzy!

BTW, there is a site that I found, that some of you might be interested in--another place to make comments, etc--www.dig.com

Peggi

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