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[SPEC][UPDATE] Major Jake Maine and Special Project 487
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[SPEC][UPDATE] Major Jake Maine and Special Project 487
New info from the Lancewood Logs

So, we learned some interesting bits of information today from Scarlett and Violet's encounter with the 'howling shadow man' at Lancewood Labs.

Message logs are transcribed here and wikified here.

After being shot by Scarlett, the man makes his way, bleeding and less visually fuzzy, to the secret Quiet Room on Level 4. There, having (re)acquired a measure of cognizance, he tells the girls bits of his life and purpose before he dies. Dogtags reveal him to be Major Jake Maine.

Excerpted (with abridgements) from the transcript:


Quote:
17:11] ?: ... i came through everything...then through the waves...waves everywhere - even here...I hear them and see them...they fill me...overflowing...i saw it all...between there and here...the everything in between everything...i couldn't control it...air... waves... landed...a second...? days...?.. fell...couldn't handle...landed in the waves ...

[17:18] DROWNING
[17:18] Scarlett: Key's just scanning.
[17:19] ?: Turn that off!
[17:19] DROWNING
[17:19] Violet: What?
[17:19] WAVES
[17:19] DROWNING

: ... too powerful...it controlled me...swept me away...into the everything...now they are everywhere...except here...

[17:20] BREATHING
[17:20] BREATHING
[17:21] Violet: EM waves.
[17:22] Kurt: A quiet room.

[17:24] Violet: We need you to tell us where you're from. What happened to you?

... lucky...through everything... further than the others... thorpe, in the wall... jackson, into steam...we could still hear him, screaming...i landed... ... but the waves... the waves stayed with me ...

[17:28] Violet: Who did this? Was it here, on the island? In Lancewood?

... far away...there ...not here ... the 487th... so many lost...Choi... Stephens... I wasn't the best...

[17:30] Violet: What happened to them?

... vapour...dust... the one-way trip... i made it... peace...the dead zone...

[17:32] Scarlett: Vi, I think maybe *he* stole the Cube!
[17:33] ?: ... did you...? Ha...
[17:33] Violet: That's not important Scarlett. Tell us about 487. What is 487?

... my unit... the project...

[17:33] Violet: Special project 487?
[17:33] Violet: What are they doing?
[17:33] Violet: Where are they?

... bourg...Vienden...

[17:35] SLEEPING

... dead room...could feel it... perfectly dead... perfect... shhh...listen...

[17:38] SLEEPING
[17:38] SLEEPING
[17:38] SLEEPING
[17:38] Scarlett: Wait
[17:39] FLYING
[17:39] Scarlett: No
[17:39] Scarlett: No
[17:40] Violet: He's gone.

[17:44] Violet: He's wearing a black jumpsuit, ripped at the knees and elbows.
[17:44] Kurt: Any insignia?
[17:45] Violet: Unshaven, looks to be late 20s early 30s maybe.
[17:45] Scarlett: We didn't even know his name.
[17:45] Kurt: Any ID?
[17:46] Violet: Oh. Yes. Dogtags.
[17:46] Violet: Major Jake Maine.
[17:46] Violet: There's a serial number too.



So, Jake Maine. Product of what kind of experimenting at Viendenbourg? And when? The original, the latest? Has he been traveling through spacetime for centuries (since howling men is a legend on Hobbs) or was this an instant test from Sente's new mining/axiom project? What aer they doing in Viendenbourg again (as Claire Castille suspects) and why? Clearly there's relation with CT's experience traveling (waking, everything, dissolution, blood, etc) to Earth. Was Maine grafted with Cube material or processors? How did he travel? Is he CT or was CT another guinea pig? Or did CT just suffer the same effect using the Cube itself?

Reference for the Axiom/Special Project 487 starts here.

Spec continues below Wink
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Wiki page for Jake Maine.

First, I'm not certain that the "voice" that was heard speaking words was actually coming from Jake. Here's the words that were said, in order with the count:

The weird voice wrote:
Thursday

* DROWNING (eleven times)

Friday

* DROWNING (four times)
* FALL BACK (three times)
* DROWNING (twelve times)
* WAKING (once)
* BREATHING (once)
* AIR (once)
* BREATHING (thrice)
* DROWNING (once)
* QUIET (once)
* DROWN (thrice)
* DROWNING (twice)
* WAVES (once)
* DROWNING (twice)
* BREATHING (twice)
* WAKING (once)
* DROWNING (once)
* SLEEPING (four times)
* FLYING (once)


I think Cassandra was one of the first to call Philadelphia Experiment in #syzygy. That's what I'm leaning towards, now: some sort of experiment, likely involving the Cube, done on a unit of the army for war purposes. Teleportation tops my list, though I wouldn't be surprised if they were working on invisibility as well (hence the "shadowy figures").

I do not personally feel that CT was part of Project 487, but it does sound like she experienced something similar to what Jake had (though it appears to have worked much better, in her case).

Right now I'm leaning more towards Jake being from the original experiment, with some temporal distortion happening (woo, time travel!). I don't know what Sente's going on currently at Viendenbourg, other than mining cube material for some purpose.
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more questions than answers
What I don't get?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this a little bit. My question: what did the girls/ Kurt do to bring Major Maine around? If he has been there for any length of time (whether 300 years or since the Cube was stolen) why hasn't he been able to get to level 4 or wherever he was trying to get before now? What made him change from shadow into substance? (unless they were just seeing him incorrectly)

Any insight into this from the logs or any spec on it?

On a lesser note: why attack Violet? Was she in his way? He didn't seem to be violent if they just left him alone....

One more thing: maybe all the talking (DROWNING, etc.) wasn't just him.

I don't think Sente is behind this - I think this is old stuff.
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I think he attacked Violet in order to break her watch not to actually hurt her. The EM waves or electrical impluses were in some way hurting him, the same happened when Scarlett used her key.

I am assuming that he has been hiding in the lead lined room away from 'waves' for some time and that this is the 'Quiet Room'. If he has not been there for centuries it means that either 3P, the Academy, or both, have not left Hobbs unattended.

He left the quiet room in order to turn the lights off. The power and electricity were disturbing him.
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My initial impression is that he was 'drowning' in electromagnetic waves which were having some sort of adverse effect on him thanks to whatever experimentation he had experienced.

As Level 4 was somewhat sheilded and so he pretty much returned to normal. When the girls opened the door the sheild wasn't complete and when Scarlett used her key to scan the walls, it emitted more (which was why he was complaining.)

Chances are he's been 'living' there for a while but wasn't very happy when the girls kept on powering up all the systems and bathing him in lovely EM Smile
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Those are good specs, Jaeneas and ixalon! They make sense to me.
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Yes, but with some holes in the theory. The girls are in touch with Kurt via their keys yes? How does this work in a lead lined room? And if it did work somehow (internal monitoring relaying the room chat to the Lancewood system) why did the key chat signals not play merry havoc with the Major's EM headaches????
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I think he could handle a little and only started going wobbly when things got too much (for example when keys are used to scan not just communicate).

Though I too was a bit surprised they worked in a lead-lined room, but your idea of them being patched through the comms system in the lab would go to explain that.
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Remember yesterday (I think), we learned that the scientists gave intelligence to the cube? Perhaps it's the same concept of Doc Oc in Spiderman: The intelligence (The Cube) realised its power and took over.

Perhaps The Cube was controlling Jake, and maybe The Cube was controlling CT...for all we know, the cube is CT. Maybe it had somebody else do the work for it.

Perhaps The Cube is not a good thing, but it is evil. Being a weapon that can destroy worlds, it came to OUR WORLD to DESTROY ALL OF US!!! MAYBE THE PEOPLE IN PERPLEX CITY KNOW THIS!!! They could want us to find the cube so that OUR WORLD CAN BE DESTROYED!!!

Sorry, way overspeculative on that last on. Sorry for the caps.

Another quick note:
Quote:
WAKING


Library of Babel, anyone? Connection? I tried
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/libraryofbabel/drowning
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/libraryofbabel/fallback
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/libraryofbabel/breathing
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/libraryofbabel/sleeping
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/libraryofbabel/quiet

To no avail.

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Combed Thunderclap said they hurt their hand. How could the Cube do that? It would have to be a real human body for that, and I'd imagine the best the Cube could do would be some kind of simulacrum.

Also, what the voice says makes sense as something Jake would say, since he was generally doing WHATEVER at the time it was said.
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I'm going with Violet's assumption that the Major is from the more recent experiments at Viendenbourg. He mentions he's part of unit 487, and we know that project 487 is active now. My guess is that they're trying to replicate the Lancewood experiments, possibly to find some way to send people to Earth to get the cube / battle the 3P.

If the 3P is an organisation that started out as a group of ex-Lancewood people, then the 3P would have much better instructions on how to use the mined material to create personal teleporters.

Which, to me, suggests that if Sente is in charge of project 487 (and the people at Viendenbourg did say to Scarlett that 'he'll find it all in order next time he visits the site') then Sente isn't 3P because the 3P managed to get their portal working just fine (well, that's an assumption I admit).

The Major says that one person was teleported into a wall, another turned to steam, another to dust. He said that he 'landed' out at sea(?). For whatever reason, he didn't materialise properly, so EM waves cause him to phase out slightly (go 'fuzzy'). He was able to determine that the quiet room was there, and knew he could go there to be shielded from the EM waves and die in peace.

Our intrepid heroes arrive, Kurt switches all the lights and equipment on, and eventually it gets to be too much for the Major so he goes around smashing stuff. It's likely he didn't even recognise the significance of the place he's found himself in.

Getting back to the Cube, if the Cube is a facilitator for teleportation, then it could quite easily account for the damage done at Anjsbourg and the crater to the south of Perplex City, given that we know that one possible effect of a teleport gone wrong is vaporisation.

Claire Castille said that she was looking for confirmation of what took out Anjsbourg. Which suggests she had a hunch. I wonder if Scarlett fancies a trip out there again?

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We know that the Cube was transporting light from one place to another...could the light lab be light from Viedenbourg? Then the Major should have arrived there, but because of 487 not having it not calibrated perfectly yet, he landed elsewhere?
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EM thoughts

Unbelievable! I have one week's holiday in 2 years, and we get the most background exposition ever! That'll teach me... Mad So, thoughts from the mind of Mico:

Flabyo wrote:
He said that he 'landed' out at sea(?).

I'm not sure that's right. It seems to me that the waves to which Jake was referring are the electro-magnetic waves. I think he landed in the lighthouse-bunker, and that was the intended target, but an unforeseen side-effect is that he was dramatically affected by EM interference. The fact that he became less-fuzzy when in the lead-lined L4 room implies some sort of phase-shift when he was exposed to EM. So it is likely that CT (after a fair bit of inter-galactic travel) could be experiencing the same effects. S/he would then be likely to have found a lead-lined / Faraday cage of their own here on Earth......?

I like Silvermoon's idea that the light-lab could be a positioning guidance point - a target for the 487 to aim their guinea-pigs at. This also goes along with the thinking that Jake travelled from a recent experiment, rather than from one of the original attempts 300 years ago. Special Project 487 is obviously still going (ordering parts etc), and based out of Viendenbourg, so at least the current Master is following in the footsteps of his predecessors, for good or bad.

As these shadow-men fables have been floating around the islands for a while, it implies the original experiments were subject to similar problems
Quote:
[16:29] Violet: Right. June 1736.
[16:30] Violet: "Targeting range and precision vastly improved today. Problem: horizon is still unstable, and functioning is highly susceptible to ... fields."
[16:31] Kurt: What's ... ?
[16:32] Violet: Electromagnetic, I suppose.
...
[16:39] Violet: "Our last attempt at compensating for EM interference failed, so I had no choice but to authorise construction of the Quiet Room. Woad will not be happy, but Adamek assures me she can deal with her."


Also, it seems that Jake wasn't actually saying the words, but they were his feelings that were being picked up by the keys' communications system. The girls couldn't hear them, but we and Kurt could pick them up over the comm-link.
Quote:

[16:32] FALL BACK
[16:32] Violet: OK, now we run!
[16:32] Kurt: Did he just say something?
[16:32] Kurt: Go!
[16:32] Violet: No? What? Nothing, just that moaning again.


Sorry this was a long post, but there's a lot going round my head at the moment, and you lot have had an extra week to get to grips with it! Laughing
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Talk sense. Combed Thunderclap could not possibly be a Shadow Man like Jake. If they were, when they appeared in the middle of a busy city, there would have been mass panic and lots of newspaper articles.
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Crane wrote:
Talk sense. Combed Thunderclap could not possibly be a Shadow Man like Jake. If they were, when they appeared in the middle of a busy city, there would have been mass panic and lots of newspaper articles.


That's if CT was transported by the exact same methods that the Project 487 guinea pigs were. My spec is that it was the Cube itself that transported CT, and that the method of transportation was perfected so that the side effects didn't happen.
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