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[SOLVED] mollyhaleisasammeeeee on flickr
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RedHatty
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Mostly trial and error - if we came to a spot that didn't make sense, in the vig, we re-ordered the letters in vice (icev, cevi, evic) and the correct words usually popped out that way.

Base64 was mostly trial and error - if a nonsense character showed up in a recognizable word, we just figured it out.

Many people with many sets of eyes & fingers & different online decoders helped us get it Smile

Map will have to explain letter frequencies & vig codes - i can't help you there
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mapmaker
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There are a couple different ways to defeat a Vig cipher without the key. If you know a word in the plaintext, you can usually work backwards from that. Furthermore, you can sometimes get key length from repeated phrases. But I just usually use this site: http://math.ucsd.edu/~crypto/java/EARLYCIPHERS/Vigenere.html - you can use it to work with letter frequencies for each permutation of the alphabet used.

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Just want to add that last night in chat we were speculating about the meaning of the underlined page numbers:

page 1 (no underlines, just arrows pointing to the number and a question mark)
page 5
page 9
page 11
page 14
page 22

If you assume that the marks on page 1 are just to draw attention to this (and so doesn't really count), then perhaps, by letter-subsitution:

5 = E
9 = I
11 = K
14 = N
22 = V

or KEVIN

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New Pictures posted on Sunday afternoon

http://www.flickr.com/photos/86059682@N00/

More ciphers to solve, Cathy wants to know what they mean.
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So taking a quick shot at the Linear B, here's what I get:

For the "last page" photo:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
give blond (male) governor slave (female) -- so something like "give the blond male governor a/the female slave"


For the "last pages entire page" photo:
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coastal
when all [Winato - a place name] wishes
mountain
desert
gold riches free (person)
village
take King

That means nothing to me...


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konamouse
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Quote:
xxxxxconstitute cheekily hotter xxxxx
Hjg zlfwna iq Xzdgle Uspluxbbg, c
Mahcejypxsg gfoxf yji cxqgphwr
Dcumpw oycs stg vjy eawtf jtxqg. Vbp
Yookfj wcgu hzm ypqq eaov Gfmxfv
Yud t dctn zykjg flgr qh
Mahcejypxsg. Vbpr rq pie dbqy nsth
Rkynx hjtyp xlkund


I have no idea what that first line means. But using an online handy dandy Vig guesser:
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Key = occult: the family of elbert benjamine, a
spoocheeeee elder who recennly
passed away has the third piece. the
family does not know that elbert
was a part ofwhe land of
spoocheeeee. they do not know that
piece three exists


Started a new thread here for Piece #3
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konamouse
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Sharing the code solves with the characters?

Do we tell Patricia what the codes mean?? She did post on the flickr picture that request.

And what shall danteIL & Red tell Mr Alan Johnson about the codes after he receives the book?? Since Mr AJ is sending him the book for him to decipher, how much should he know. The good part is that while we have all solved the ciphers, technically it could take a bit longer for the two of them to do it on their own (the Linear B stuff seems so cryptic, that's an easy one to share soonest) so they have an excuse not to share any juicy information with Mr AJ for a little while. I wonder what would happen if danteIL tells him about the plot to overthrow him (would that put Dwin & Patricia's life in danger???).

I wonder if Red will have to watch that video 600 times. Laughing
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konamouse
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[EMAIL] from Cathy - She tells ALL!

konamouse wrote:
Before I get into the codes, I am so confused. Do I call you Patricia or Cathy? I know that Mr Alan Johnson is an assumed name, but which one is your real name before you joined Spoocheeeee? Speaking of which - how DID you get involved?

The reason I ask, in a way, is the first set of Linear B script on the back page of the book. It's not clear but seems to suggest something like "give the blond male governor a/the female slave"
and "When everyone and everything (or all) Winato (a name for Inatus; a place on the island of Crete) wishes gold riches set free village take King"

Is Mr Alan Johnson blond???

The Cover page read:
"THE FIRST TWO CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK CONTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT KEVIN AND SPOOCHEEEEE I HAVE FIGURED OUT SOME OF IT BUT NOT ALL. THE FIGURES ARE LINEAR B GO TO PAGE 65 FOR INFORMATION I HAVE PLACED THE INFORMATION THAT HAPPY HAS GIVEN ME ABOUT SPOOCHEEEEE PIECE TWO IN CHAPTER NINE. HAPPY SHOULD HAVE A FEW SPECIFICS ON HER DIARY PAGE SOURCE LOOK FOR THAT AS WELL. I ONLY HAVE TINY BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT SPOOCHEEEEE PIECE 3 HOPE THIS HELPS

I HAVE NOTHING ABOUT SPOOCHEEEEE PIECE FOUR AND FIVE AS SOON AS I DO I WILL PUT IT IN HERE."

Page 65 (Chapter 7) was a code word that helped Nedd find the clues to piece #1 that you & Timothy retreived last week.

Chapter 9 was about the second piece and where Nedd hid Happy's map.

Still working on the rest.
Heatheeeeer


Cathy wrote:
Heatheeeeer,

Please call me Cathy. It is what I like best. Patricia
Moore was given to me by Spoocheeeee after I graduated from
training. Cathy is the only part of the real me that I
know. The Kuttner part is the name of the Spoocheeeee
family that cared for me leading up to my Jackal training.
Although they are Spoocheeeee, they are the only family I
know so I have used that as my last name. I was obtained
(age 14) from a place called Powick in Massachusetts. You
may have heard of it. It was an awful place that used LSD
to treat patients. I don't know much about my life before
Powick. I was really young when I was left there by my
parents.

The linear B symbols mean nothing to me. Mr. Alan Johnson
is not blonde. And although I do somedays feel like a
Spoocheeeee slave - I am not.

Have you heard the sad news about the twins? Seems that
Spoocheeeee got its hands on a map to Blue Heaven. Jack
and George, the twins were executed this morning. Timothy
said Nedd barely escaped. It is very sad. Timothy and
Jean Moulin said they very worried about other leaks to
Alan but they did not elaborate. I have been trying to
contact Nedd Ludd all day. I hope he is okay. I'm sure
he's very frightened. Nedd is a bit "out there" but he is
a great person.

I have a feeling I may know what is in the first two
Chapters of "The Day he Died". I feel that I can tell you.
I trust you very much. Kevin (Dwin) was selected by the
elders to replace Alan. They feel that Alan is out of
control and not managing Spoocheeeee well. I was chosen to
raise and train Kevin but please believe me when I tell you
that they will NEVER get their filthy Spoocheeeee hands on
this sweet and good boy! I will risk everything to be sure
that Kevin lives a life free of Spoocheeeee. Please,
Heatheeeeer, if you and the other do decode this book, do
not let it get into Alan's hands. He will kill Kevin
immediately. He is not a stable man. We must find these
pieces and free the five before it is too late.

I hope this information is helpful.
Cathy


Cathy wrote:
I have good news! Timothy tells me that Nedd is with Jean
Moulin and very safe!


Cathy

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