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SpaceBass
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yanka wrote:
What is it called when people feed on each other's delusions?

Folie à deux.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:56 am
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JohnLockeGuy
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 		Well, I guess he's living fine with his delusions. :{ who are we to judge?
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OmegaX
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 		I hate to interrupt the 'this guy's crazy', but there are actually people who use the concept of 'soulbond' as a tool for roleplay. Just a more extreme version of calling a character your 'muse'. Not to say that's necessarily what's going on here, it could in fact be a real crazy guy, or it could even be an ARG based on 'soulbond' ideas, but just letting you know that it happens outside of crazy folk.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:57 am
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NeoExMachinae
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 		Neo.
It's so funny how everyone slanders, but no one ASKS.
Yeah. Since I realize that everyone here is still too frightened to actually find out for themselves; I thought I'd pop in and end the debate. No, it's not a game. Yes, Trin and I are here. And to the wiseacre who wrote:

I know it's mean to laugh at this, but I can't help cracking up when I imagine how they wake up in the morning: "Neo!! Don't forget to pick up milk on the way home!" "Hey, Trin, have you seen my socks?"

...yeah, that's pretty much EXACTLY how it is.

Only it's usually along the lines of "Trin, where the hell are my PANTS?" "Neo, do NOT smoke that entire pack of cigarettes today or I will behead you."

Even her mother, who's helping her pick out her wedding dress - we've been together for nearly three years, now - doesn't know me by anything other than 'Neo'. She knows it's not on my driver's license, but even when she's bitching, it's that she uses.


Also, whoever 'Mr. Spoonman' is, it isn't me. We had some well-intentioned but maybe not-so-suave people going around posting banners for us for quite a while, a year or two ago. *sighs.* I'm not even sure what an 'ARG' is, here. Eh. So think before you speak, eh? I bet I know who it was, too - it's someone I'd rather not have associated with us, in any case. Funny, huh?


We're functional. Trying to do what we're here to do. I'd suggest actually looking through something other than your "Whoa that's NUUUTSOO LOLOL!!11!!oneone!" glasses; if splinter realities exist - try looking into string theory, sometimes - then there must be room for more things "in heaven and earth than exist in your philosophy", as it were. We have a radio show. We have a great deal to do here. And funnily enough, we talked tonight on the air about how easy it is for people to slam/slander/mock/spit at ANYTHING that doesn't fit into the collective idea/l of "Sane" or "acceptable"; because if it's beneath you, you don't have to take the time to actually THINK about it. If it's something you're laughing at, then by God, none of your friends will laugh at you... for daring to consider something outside the pack!

So, no. Not a game. Not in any way. Sometimes I wish it were.


You tell me. Am I crazy?

Your choice. But there must be SOMEONE who believes more in knowing the truth than in making up their own in order to not have to expend the energy to find out.


My name is Gossip.
I have no respect for justice.
I maim without killing.
I break hearts and ruin lives.
I am cunning and malicious and gather strength with age.

The more I am quoted the more I am believed.
I flourish at every level of society.
My victims are helpless.
They cannot protect themselves against me because I have no name and no face.

To track me down is impossible.
The harder you try, the more elusive I become.
I am nobody's friend.
Once I tarnish a reputation, it is never the same.
I topple governments and ruin marriages.
I ruin careers and cause sleepless nights, heartache and indigestion.
I spawn suspicion and generate grief.

I make innocent people cry in their pillows.
Even my name hisses.

I AM CALLED GOSSIP.


You guys aren't the first, nor will you be the last. But if I wasn't trying to DO something here - and 'cult''s getting old, guys, it kind of defeats the purpose - I'd've given up after the eighth person who never met us or even talked to us decided we "ought to be shot" simply for existing... and not being ashamed of who we are.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:33 am
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NeoExMachinae
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 		Incidentally...
Every time someone posts a link to truthofthespoon, I get the trackback links in my stats.

Interesting, what you find when people don't think you see what they say.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:35 am
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tinag222
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 		wow
Quote:
They are the ultimate illustration of how utterly batsh*t insane the Internet has become.


ROTFLMAO

Well good lord, all ya have to do is send somebody to youtube and that'll clear up that question.

Interesting concept for an arg though - imagine - these characters finding one another via the abstract media, lost, don't know they *are* characters...it'd be fun to help them find their ways back to the stories from which they come.

I could so see this on the TwiLight Zone.

I did see something similar on Design on a Dime - or one of those shows - a couple who really believed they were goth vampires wanted their kitchen redone to look like a castle. Designers did a hell of a job on it too but the chick, who fancied herself a gothic vampire princess or whatever just struck me as out of touch. Halloween times 365. The husband - chances are, after looking at him, the only reason he's going along with the whole goth thing is because that's the only way he'd ever actually get laid. By anybody, I mean. Deep down they both knew better - it was that hey, let's blow off this life since we can't quite fit in and regress into la la land pretending we're from another century kind of situation.

While it's nutty and silly and kinda out of touch with reality, it's their reality and I had to consider hey...they've got the balls enough to live their lives however they want, they're not drones, they're not doing the 9-5 following the expectations of others...and it takes great inner character to be able to cut loose from the tapestry and make your own.



However, Neo - for the record, energy does not direct thought...it causes thought. And the blurb about that having been proven by mainstream science is sooooo not reality. What IS reality is that cracking open the skullcap and manually stimulating various brain centers, they can literally change your ideas you're Neo to making you genuinely know you're a monkey at Lion Country Safari. They can also, manually, make your entire "selfness" vanish...there is no neo, there is no you, there is nothing...and that is hard, provable reality.

Reality is relative. Soulbonding is as real as you need it to be. Other people finding it nutty doesn't make you Neo anymore than it makes your woman Trinity. Basically what I mean is that your perceptions are whatever you want them to be...but there is still material, provable reality...and in that one, well...it's nutty. Cool

But it still would've made for a cool arg!

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konamouse
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 		Still trying to figure out WHY this guy posted the original "link" in the first place?

I gotta give him props for taking the time to register before posting his point of view (albeit a few months later). Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:24 am
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Delusional
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 		You must really need some attention.
Seriously, if can track the stats coming from this site you would know that this has been a dead issue here for awhile.
So why come and bring it up again?

Now it's obvious that your not a complete mess, you can communicate well enough and do some minimal .html (which I still find odd).
But there is something psychological different about you.
The reality you see is not truth.

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tinag222
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 		oh crap
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Well that was a lesson on reading the fine print. I didn't even remotely look at the *dates* on this one....just assumed if it's up top it's recent! Even worse, when realizing this error, I made another one and briefly felt even stooopider...I misread the kona's join date in 2002 as the "last post" date...and thought oh god I commented on this and it's 5 years old! I should just go away and find a rock. How humiliating. Surprised


If that is troutworthy, I humbly accept in shame.

This is why I'm not a pro like you guys. Fine print gets me every time.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:37 am
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Delusional
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 		Heh, it's okay tinag222, your post actually helped me out a bit.

See, where I said
"But there is something psychological different about you."
I was going to use "wrong" instead of "different"
But your post made me realize that different was the more appropriate term.

So don't worry about it. Smile

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ItWasntMeISwear
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MilesEdgeworth
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 		Re: Props
ItWasntMeISwear wrote:
I don't want to be the one to keep this thing at the top of the list, but I just couldn't read this without making some sort of comment.

For all of the things that make us who we are, our names are the least important. "Names", as they are, are simply a means of "identification via association" and it really isn't anything that we have control over (ie., it's not like we are the ones who choose our name).

Looking at this objectively one can come to the minimal conclusion that going by any name, even if it is not your legal one, isn't any worse then, say, dressing up in an animal costume when your not in a play and it's not Halloween.


Even though I probably shouldn't comment on this since it's so old but what the hey. Isn't this different to simply taking and using a name?
Going by the name Bart Simpson is kind of different than actually believing you're Bart Simpson. To be honest it doesn't bother me if people say "Yeah. I'm really BA Baracus/The Incredible Hulk/Whatever." (Although I disagree with the sort of call to arms, for the lack of a better phrase, on that site.) But still I think there's a big difference between taking on a name and taking on an actual identity or believing you're a fictional character.

As for why it was posted on here, maybe in some twisted way it blurs the lines between reality and fiction, kinda like an ARG does, either that or someone just thought it'd be funny to draw attention to that guy.

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aninterloper
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 		I'm not really sorry for posting on this as we've gotten some new info.

The thing is, I'm not really understanding why it matters that this guy thinks he's Neo. I mean, other than being a nice conversational shortcut to understanding his personality, what's different about being Neo as opposed to any other guy? I mean, he's admitted himself he doesn't have any special powers or anything. So he's found a girl he's crazy about. He's quasi-religious, pseudoscientific, and wants to help save the earth from a possible technocratic nightmare by uniting people and giving them knowledge. Plenty of people have done things like that; it's not limited to a fictional (in this universe) messiah. He could say he's Henry Case or Johnnie Goodboy Tyler or Gully Foyle and it wouldn't substantially change anything. Insisting on the particulars seems counterproductive to his purpose.

However, no one ever said peoples' beliefs and actions had to be rational. Smile

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NeoExMachinae
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aninterloper wrote:
I mean, he's admitted himself he doesn't have any special powers or anything. So he's found a girl he's crazy about. He's quasi-religious, pseudoscientific, and wants to help save the earth from a possible technocratic nightmare by uniting people and giving them knowledge. Plenty of people have done things like that; it's not limited to a fictional (in this universe) messiah.



...I wish there were more of this type of comment; it seems to be MY argument, but then again, no one takes "the crazy guy" seriously.

As for reasons, there IS one; my particular reason for doing what I'm doing. Why 'being Neo' fits directly into it. But I don't want to get into it here for the simple fact that I'm comfortable with it; [ http://www.truthofthespoon.net/radio01archive.html ] -- the excerpts from Radio Zero-One make it a lot clearer. That's a lot of what I talk about.


I did realize, belatedly, that it's an old topic; however, people are STILL coming to the site from this link. So what? It's better to leave my two cents, just in case. I also belatedly realized that this will kick the topic to the top. Ehh.

Hurrah for typos right after getting up.

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Kitrona
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 		I personally don't care who you think you are or whatever. I claim some pretty crazy things myself, albeit not to the internet at large.

I'm just wondering why you feel the need to defend yourself to people on forums you don't even belong to. Why do the opinions of people you don't even hang out with online matter to you?

*shrugs* Obviously it's your life and you can choose to do whatever you want with it. I'm just curious as to why, in this instance, your choice diverges so wildly from mine; not that mine is correct or yours is incorrect, I just like to learn about how people's minds work.

I think I need to change my avatar to a cat. Rolling Eyes

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