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dv8
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 72
Gotcha. Anyways, I've sent Foo an email trying to get in. I'll let you all know if he bites.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:56 pm
djsampson
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Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 393 Location: INDY
I'm in with Brackin. I recieved a reply e-mail from him. Here it is:
I'm going to trust you Harris. I believe in trusting people. I've learned that Foo has likely hacked the feed and may even be receiving new transmissions daily. If so then he must be getting help from outside. If you can identify how and what he is hiding, then perhaps we can stop them.
I'm happy that some of the true believers are still on my side. See if you can infiltrate foo's team. One of them may be the key to this. Use their arrogance against them. I am currently working on something that will enable us to access the feed as well.
That's assuming you succeed in locating his hack. Good luck. Every day we wait they will have a greater advantage. Screw the future. Change the present!
-AB
On 11/16/06, Harris <x_clamation_1998> wrote:
I am very interested in helping you. I personally haven't trusted FOO since he left you in the middle of testing. I think he is up to something and we must stop him and get you back online. Please accept my allegiance to your cause and please keep in touch .
_________________I take your reality and substitute it with my own! -Mythbusters
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:45 pm
djsampson
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Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 393 Location: INDY
Some how we need to get someone into Foo's circle of Friends. Foo is a little untrusting we need one of the Five to Join us. Problem is I am not sure how or if we are even suppost to know who the Five are. Or if we are aloud to contact the Five to turn them to our side on UF. Moderaters I need a judgement here. What is aloud as far as contact and knowing who is who on Foo's side. Should we know who they are. Or should it be disregaurded and no contact should be made.
_________________I take your reality and substitute it with my own! -Mythbusters
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:55 pm
alia
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Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 81
I e-mailed and got the same response as djsampson. Any ideas on turning someone traitor?
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:13 pm
naknak
Boot
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 14
i emailed foo earlier trying to gain his trust (its on the first page) the only hint he gives to of who the five are, is that one of them is MONTREAL.
here is it again
Quote:
The initial proof from the spectrometer data log is secure with one of the first five and has been hidden. It is not yet safe for me to come from my hiding place. Help me protect the secret-keepers. Especially MONTREAL.
i think MONTREAL must be the key. winning his trust or turning him is the key.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:26 pm
imbri
Entrenched
Joined: 21 Sep 2002 Posts: 1182 Location: wonderland
djsampson wrote:
Some how we need to get someone into Foo's circle of Friends. Foo is a little untrusting we need one of the Five to Join us. Problem is I am not sure how or if we are even suppost to know who the Five are. Or if we are aloud to contact the Five to turn them to our side on UF. Moderaters I need a judgement here. What is aloud as far as contact and knowing who is who on Foo's side. Should we know who they are. Or should it be disregaurded and no contact should be made.
What is allowed? Well, as far as Unfiction is concerned, you can contact whomever you would like whenever you would like. However, you can't go about threatening other players and such. But as far as games are concerned, uF has no control over them outside of how players collaborate on this site - and that's more a matter of how the forums are set up and not allowing characters and such to post here and things like that (all of which can be found in the TOS and have nothing to do with the gameplay itself).
Now, as far as my personal thoughts on "how to play". Well, I don't understand why people would design a game that would pit players against each other "hey! go and spy on a character! get that information to me!" and not expect people to hoard information and/or try to "steal" information from each other. That tends to be why games that have such a design fall apart - on the one hand they try to get you to work together but then on the other hand they breed mistrust which makes it difficult to work together "hey, is playerX hanging out here because he wants to take CharacterY all our info? Hmmm, maybe I should only share any info I find with my trusted buddy Z." Suddenly the community is strained and it's not much fun to play. And puzzles don't go solved and people don't progress and the game slowly stalls or becomes a matter of force feeding the remaining few players the story.
In fact, the fact that you're asking how to play and what you should do and OMG! ACK! implies that you're not immersed in the Game universe but the Unfiction universe and, to me, that indicates a fundamental problem with the game design.
Remember: uF is just a place to play the game. You can play it wherever you want. How you play it is up to you and the puppetmasters
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:22 pm
troon
Boot
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 26
I e-mailed Brackin asking to help, he responded:
Quote:
I'm going to trust you. I have to trust someone. I've learned that Foo has likely hacked the feed and may even be receiving new transmissions daily. If so then he must be getting help from outside. If you can identify how and what he is hiding, then perhaps we can stop them. Every day we wait they will have a greater advantage. Screw the future. Change the present!
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:50 pm
Forgery
Decorated
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 158
My response from Brackin. The use of my name being 'stephen' it seems to suggest to me this may be some kind of Auto reponse. I finished the email I sent him as Forg but instead it is replied as my full name and with a lowercase s, as it is as my email information thing. It suggests Auto Response to me.
Quote:
What you say makes sense stephen. I believe in trusting people so I'll trust you. I've learned that Foo has likely hacked the feed and may even be receiving new transmissions daily. If so then he must be getting help from outside as you say. If you can identify how and what he is hiding, then perhaps we can stop them.
I'm happy that some of the true believers are still on my side. See if you can infiltrate foo's team. One of them may be the key to this. Use their arrogance against them. I am currently working on something that will enable us to access the feed as well.
That's assuming you succeed in locating his hack. Good luck. Every day we wait they will have a greater advantage. Screw the future. Change the present!
So we need to tell Brackin how Foo is getting into the system, where the backdoor is, how do we figure this out??
Forg
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:59 pm
Agent Lex
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Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1188 Location: No longer London, still in England
Just to let you all know, I emailed Brackin aswell, with a generic "I'm with you, etc" mail, mentioning the company and perhaps getting the data from them. Got the same generic response, with this extra tidbit:
Quote:
I'm going to trust you Lewis. I believe in trusting people. The company continuing the project is inconsequential - it is a mindless corporation just like all the others called "Defendcorp" or something.
Not quite an auto response, but definitely a form letter since the rest was the same as everyone else.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:01 pm
Forgery
Decorated
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 158
Ok, well a search for Defend Corp gives me this here
I randomly clicked on the one date for Wed 13th Sept
and read info such as...
Quote:
Over the last decade, the most serious threat posted by doing business on the Internet has transitioned from prankster hacking to outright fraud. Online protection and enforcement of corporate identity is most critical for companies that rely on a strong corporate or product brand, manufacture products that are sold online, or experience reduced sales when website traffic fails.
sounds to me like Brackin is using a ligit, real company name at the moment. You guys agree?
Forg
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:06 pm
dv8
Veteran
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 72
Foo's blog has been updated. Seems like something's about to go down.
http://foo-defiant.blogspot.com/
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:18 pm
Phaedra
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Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 4033 Location: Here, obviously
I'd like to second Imbri, and also add/reinforce a few points:
1) Just because the characters require you to take sides in-game doesn't mean you can't work together here . This is one of the reasons it's important to keep Unfiction out-of-game and independent of direct PM influence. They can't control how the game is played here. And if the community of players really doesn't like something they're being told to do, often their collective will is enough to force a design change.
2) Even though the PMs seem to be requiring you to take sides in-game, that doesn't necessarily mean that they actually expect you to hold to those sides out-of-game.
3) If the player base as a whole decides to actually take sides and attempt to hide information from the other "side" and work against them, I think you're going to have a hard time playing the game here on Unfiction. There's nothing to stop people from reading the other side's threads, and I think I can predict with a reasonable amount of certainty that the moderators and admins here aren't going to do anything to help enforce any such boundaries. As Imbri noted, the only things that aren't "allowed" here are the things expressly prohibited in the Terms of Service.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:48 pm
djsampson
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Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 393 Location: INDY
I just had a thought since we recieved an email from foo (thanks naknak) he mentions MONTREAL well none of us know who he is so I thought I would send an e-mail to Brackin to see if he knows who MONTREAL is. I will post as soon as I get a responce.
_________________I take your reality and substitute it with my own! -Mythbusters
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:03 pm
themandotcom
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Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Syosset, New York, USA, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe
djsampson wrote:
I just had a thought since we recieved an email from foo (thanks naknak) he mentions MONTREAL well none of us know who he is so I thought I would send an e-mail to Brackin to see if he knows who MONTREAL is. I will post as soon as I get a responce.
Great idea DJ! When I first heard about that I thought he was some uF player or something. But could it be possible that it is a single player, not on uF.
On another note, since I *hope* that we all are on Brackin's side, we have to figure out what Foo is hiding and how, that is our job. Remember the IG/OOG rules ect. But from what we can get, does anyone know of any kind of thing that Foo is hiding??
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:02 pm
djsampson
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Well I have nothing from Brackin yet, But I did receive a response from Foo. I am trying to shake him up a bit and cause some distrust. There's nothing like dissension in the ranks here's my email and Foo's response.
"And why if they live in such a perfect world"
You are right. I do not trust you Harris, but only because you make yourself difficult to trust. How did you aquire this information? One might suspect that you are either a spy or a fool.
_Foo Defiant!
On 11/16/06, Harris <x_clamation_1998> wrote:
Foo, I would be careful were you tread and who you trust. I live by the mado that know one deserves the trust they ask for. Question everything, even the person you are in contact with in the future. Have you ever considered that he maybe using you to change the future. Why do you put so much blind trust in someone who knows twenty some years more information than you do. And why do they need you to change it. It makes no sense Foo. Trust no one not even me or your Five. As you change the future, you change the present.
_________________I take your reality and substitute it with my own! -Mythbusters
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:18 pm
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