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[DC][Puzzle] Where in the World is Adam Brackin?
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notgordian
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Two possible answers, but I think Wang's is right because of the causeway.

The last station in Savannah, it appears, is the Savannah Port Terminal Railroad. Directly East of this station is Hutchinson Island....I just haven't found a nearby causeway (or a decent definition of the word, for that matter).


Since this is on page 2, here's Wang's answer again...I'm betting it's right.
Brunswick.

There's also a Low-Density Endpoint that fit, and there's a "FJ Torras Causewaay" leading to "Lanier Island", and "St. Simons Island"

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Wang Guantao
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I just wish I could find anything significant on either of the two Islands. But skimming my memories (aka. Wikipedia), nothing pops up.

Brackin does seem to be looking for either the source of the feed, where the hack originates or something along that line. So either he's looking for where DefenseCorp has stashed all his equipment, or he's looking for where Foo's hiding. I think the later.

Right now, I'm both baking a cake and writing a report for an economics course, so I'm a little busy, but I will look into the last part of this puzzle later tonight.

We still haven't figured out what the Charter part is, so I don't think the Island is the last stop on this leg of the journey. Once I have time to do more, I'm gonna look into if there are any ferryboat or other charter trips originating at one of those Islands mentioned above.

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Little Saint Simon's Island is located just north of Saint Simon's island and is accessible only by boat. Saint Simons area. However, there's essentially nothing there.

Can't find anything useful on Lanier Island.

Please, let me know if I'm overusing the spoiler tag. I feel like a government censor here. (after confirmation of this point, spoiler tags removed)

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notgordian wrote:
Please, let me know if I'm overusing the spoiler tag. I feel like a government censor here.

You're overusing the spoiler tag. Wink

Seriously though, thanks for asking. I guess general consensus seems to be that only the exact method to solve a puzzle and/or the actual solution need to be spoilerized.

Excessive use of the spoiler tags makes it harder to follow/read the thread. If all kinds of information get spoilerized, you either end up reading less or more than you wanted, since you can't tell what's in the spoiler until you read it.

For our latest discussion on this, you might want to have a look at this thread...

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Thanks Guy...I missed that thread when I was going through the general HowTo guides of UF. Fixed some of the ones in this thread.

This game seems to have a lot of first-time players for a variety of reasons, so we'll be relying on those of you who are experienced to help us out as we're learning the rules of etiquette here.

The Final Answer, I think

Charter didn't mean boat....it meant airplane. On Saint Simon Island, there's a small airport called Malcolm McKinnon Airport. The Torres Causeway is the only access, and now Brackin isn't stuck on some podunk little island to do who knows what...he's on a plane heading somewhere else to do who knows what.

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Well as long as he's not on some podunk little island =P

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Puzzle #7 added by Brackin...I guess this disproves my answer for #6. Unless there are docks near the airport....

Quote:
If I ever sleep in another boxcar it will be too soon. This next leg promises to be the most miserable part of my journey though. I don't get seasick easily, but every ship's captain I spoke to told me this is the WORST time to sail.

It took every dollar I had to find a salty enough man to take me away before "April 3" which is rediculous. I asked them to leave sooner, but they laughed at me. Apparently it's some sort of tradition having to do with lunar cycles. One guy told me they "always round up" before they "take away" regardless of money. Must be a southern thing - that or they were messing with me because it just didn't add up - well except for the last part.

Hopefully it will warm up as we go. I will be out of contact for a few days until we make safe harbor again. Have faith true believers - I will update again as soon as I can - hopefully by early next week. For those following me:

The "Great Folio of the Prophet" states:
The ocean voyage marks the change,
Wet, cold, and alone the explorer must sail.
The year 15 and 24 by sacred "glomes",
The year 1261, of liturgy.

DEUS EX MACHINA


I already looked into "glomes" and it's Nostradamus's special way of being a pain in the ass. From what I can gather, it adds 325 to the date because of the Council of Nicaea. As for the rest, ick.

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I think the stuff in "quotes" are hints to something, since there's no reason to put "April 3" in quotes for instance. Also
Quote:

Must be a southern thing - that or they were messing with me because it just didn't add up - well except for the last part.

makes me think that some attention must be put to those parts of the text.

The warm up as we go - part makes me think he'll be sailing southwards, to warmer climates.

The prophet quote seems to mostly just describe the situation Brackin is in to me, but I guess the numbers could have some significance.

Decyphering the title of the post is likely also a good thing to do.
(likely more parts of revelations - I'll try to look into that part of this puzzle once I've had my morning-coffee)

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Well im stumped...
The title if you take it as revelations number give the following text:
The American Standard Bible wrote:
Then I looked, and I heard an eagle flying in midheaven, saying with a loud voice, "Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound!"

which doesn't seem very relevant (well except that it says that the world is halfway broken or some such, but that seems like a stretch).

1524 by glomes equals 1849, a year where not one single significant event (to the story as far as I can see) has happened according to Wikipedia (that doesn't mean that nothing significant didn't happen in 1849, just that I have no idea what).
Same goes for 1261.

A Liturgy seems to be some form of ceremoni or prescribed set of actions, often in religious context, but what it has to do with 1261 i dunno.

April 3rd is historically a crazy tornado day, but that would only explain why someone might not want to sail on that precise day...

And the lunar cycles and what not still makes no sense to me. If anyone has half a theory on these things, I'd love to hear em, because I'm all out of ideas.

--Update
I'm still stuck, but I realize that the title could of course be a reference to other texts. The only thing I've found is a budhist text though, with a heading of:
"ONE DAY OF EXPERIENCING
THE DEATHLESS IS BETTER THAN
A CENTURY WITHOUT SUCH AN EXPERIENCE "
(sorry for caps, it's a cut and paste)

It tells the story of a woman named Kisa Gotami that looses her son and wants him revived, ultimately realising that it's a fickle request, and that she's not the only one in life that has lost a dear one. At some point budha shows up and tells her some words of wisdom...

Again I can't see much relevance to the current story, but as it was the only other thing I could find so in case others found it usefull I put it up here. I found the text at the following url http://www.mahindarama.com/e-library/dhammapada8.htm

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ok, here is my *less than* half a theory.

Maybe april 3 is 43, then "round up"/add 1849, then "take away"/subtract 1261 to get: 631

Which is not a passage in Revelation (6:31)...

Probably totally crazy, but that's what immediately popped into my head.

ETA: after reading it on the blog and noticing the italics...i'm thinking it might actually be a rounding up of the date. since
Quote:
having to do with lunar cycles. One guy told me they "always round up" before they "take away" .....it just didn't add up - well except for the last part.


is all italicized.

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The title could be refering to Nostradamus Prophecies, since they are most ofter refered with the italian word for verse: Stanza.

The Stanza VIII-13 of Nostradamus and a brief interpretation:

Quote:
The crossed brother maddened by lust
Will kill Bellerophon because of Praytus. p. 372
The enraged woman whose fleet has sailed for a thou-sound years
Will drink bitter brew, thereafter both shall perish.

This verse is as puzzling as it is intriguing. The Bellerophon was the ship that took Napoleon to Saint Helena. Here it is a symbol of England. Classically, Bellerophon was a hero who retired after involuntarily causing the death of Praytus, his friend and hunting companion, while both were guests in the house of Praytus' father-in-law. The meaning could be that England allied with a government of France, the Republic (which is not the true son of France but an in-law), while both are guests of France, will meet tragedy; that England (at Dunquerque) will be responsible for the death of (Praytus) the French government.

Then the symbolism changes, and seems to indicate Britannia, "for a thousand years" a sea-going power from the days of William the Conqueror, will taste defeat, and thereafter both Britain and her antagonist, Germany, the crossed brother, will perish.


Edit: There'll be a full moon on April 2. I don't know that much about seasons, but it may have to do with the end of winter. (First full moon of spring?)

Edit 2: The island of Saint Helena is UK territory, located At coordenates: 15° 57? 0? S 5° 42? 0? W. And then there's a Saint Helen Island, and while this may just be an odd coincidence, it is located in Montreal!
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There are two possible lunar cycles that have similar effects...more, probably, since I can't find the significance of either.

The reason the liturgic calendar is so messed up is because the Bible operates under the lunar calendar. Thus, April 3 (regarded by some to be the date of Jesus's death) might be considered the start of the year...?

When you're working with the lunar calendar, to account for the vagarities in the Earth's rotation you periodically have a leap MONTH (instead of the solar calendar's leap day).

The other possibility is tidal forces, which would make sense for sailors...tides are related to the positioning of the moon, so maybe something regarding high tide is being discussed. That's all I can think of right now, at any rate.

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possible date cipher

Since a past puzzle was an alphabet cipher, I thought maybe this new one had to do with dates. So I googled for 'date ciphers nostradamus' and found an interesting site. More specific spec found in spoiler below.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Since Brother Theo used Roman numeral VIII in his blog title, I first tried the 8th illustration on that site. But that didn't really apply. So now I am going to start searching the several other illustrations to see if any of them contain a VIII stanza from the prophecies of Nostradamus.
Could be nothing . . . but worth a shot.


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In light of this
Quote:
The "Great Folio of the Prophet" states:
The ocean voyage marks the change,
Wet, cold, and alone the explorer must sail.
The year 15 and 24 by sacred "glomes",
The year 1261, of liturgy.

and this
In the thread All the Puzzles and Their Solutions
Wang Guantao said:
Quote:
It appears that Adam is going by boat not by plane away from Saint Simons Island. At this point in time, his destination is unknown to us.


I found this:
Quote:
Scapular of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel
"Whosoever dies clothed in this (scapular) shall not suffer eternal fire." This is the Virgin Mary's promise made July 16, 1261 to Saint Simon Stock.
http://www.stmatthewofmonroe.com/?fuseaction=prayer.


I also found that 1261 was a significant year for the Catholic church. It is the year Constantinople was taken from the Romans and returned to Byzantine rule. A Byzantine Liturgical Cycle was based on this event.

I know these are way out there, and there are a lot of Mt. Carmels but I thought I'd throw 'em in the pot. Might spark something else.

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It might help to know that 1261 is also a modified date: Of liturgy means "add 252 years" (http://www.crypticthinking.com/BonusExcerpts/Illustration22.html for "de liturgie")

Here's my prediction of where Brackin's going. It seems pretty convoluted and obscure though, so it might be really stretching things. If we look for April 3, 1849, we find that some polish poet guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliusz_S%C5%82owacki) died on that day. His epic work was "Podróż do Ziemi Świętej z Neapolu", which means in English (or at least, in Babelfishese): "For holy land (earth) from naples - journey ".
Naples set me off here because Stanza VIII-13 is generally considered to be about Napoleon. Now, there's also a Naples, Florida, which could be reached from a port in Georgia, going south. So that's my guess.

However, this doesn't take into account all his math talk: rounding up and then taking away and adding up the last bit. Or lunar cycles for that matter. Or the liturgical year. I imagine a full solution will explain all that.
Just my two cents.

Edit: Some other thoughts. My brain hurts, so I'm stopping for now, but here's some ramblings, hopefully approximately coherent:
Brackin's going for Defense Corp, right? (If not, we should work out wherever his final destination is, it could be handy)
Probably where Phil is.
Phil's location: 18 hours by van + 3 hours by helicopter from Dallas.
We decided to assume he was heading for Florida, since it was getting warmer (for both Phil and Brackin).
Google earth tells me you can get from Dallas to Atlanta in 14 hours, but maybe there was traffic.
3 hours by helicopter is about 504 miles, which takes you from Atlanta to Tampa or Orlando if heading south. (Somewhere around 28 degrees north)
I have no idea how much distance Brackin has covered, but it's about a week by boat. Xnb suggested that's too much to be at Phil's projected lattitude on the atlantic side, but about right for the mexico side, but we didn't do any research on it. We don't know what kind of boat he's in, but it has a sattelite phone and a captain steve. From the looks of http://satphonezone.com/maritimecruisships.html , neither of those helps a lot.

The theory in summary: Phil drove a van from Dallas to Atlanta, then took a helicopter to about halfway down florida. Brackin is coming for him by ship, and was travelling for a little over a week. There's a lot of stuff there that's fairly questionable, but maybe some of the data's useful anyway.

Also, I thought Cape Canaveral was an interesting idea (at the right lattitude)

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