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[DC][Puzzle] Where in the World is Adam Brackin?
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Wang Guantao
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I must have missed something, from where do we know that Phil traveled 18 hours by car and 3 hours by helicopter?

an E-mail or what not?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:02 am
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Ariana
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 I think I got it!

I found an illustration in that site I posted last time that not only has stanza number VIII, but it also talks about "sacre glomes" and "liturgy" and the math involved in interpreting them. http://www.crypticthinking.com/Illustration22-1.html


That passage explains two different ways to get a year. (Brother Theo's post refers to both: One being "The year 1261, in liturgy" and the other being "The year 15 and 24 by sacred 'glomes'".) In case you want to try the math part yourself I have spoilerized it below, but once you work both methods they come out to the same year. And on April 3 of that year only one major thing of historical significance happened in America that I can find (and it is in Florida). The exact event and location are in spoiler as well.

Math part:
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1261 in liturgy means to add 252 to it, so 1513.
sacred glomes means to divide 252 by the last 2 digits of the year 1524 and add or subtract that answer from the year (252/24=10.5) and "round up" so 11, then "take away" (1524-11=1513) **Date for both April 3, 1513**


Event and location:
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On April 3, 1513 Ponce de Leon and his expedition landed in Florida (approximately St. Augustine) and discovered the fountain of youth.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:43 pm
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Wang Guantao
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Spiffy!

The Florida thing fits quite well into what's been proposed so it could indeed be correct.
Only thing that's "unexplained" as of yet then is the Lunar Cycle bit.

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Ariana
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I think the 252 is the part based on lunar cycles. At least that's what the site I read said. -forgot to include it in my explanation above.

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notgordian
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The lunar cycle bit is explained by this solution as well--Nostradamus's definitions of glomes and liturgy are based on the lunar eclipse cycle of 252 years--for liturgy, it's straight addition while for glomes it's some strange form of pseudoscience, but both are rooted in the lunar cycle.

It's called the Saros Cycle.

But yeah....what Ariana said.

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Wang Guantao
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Well then I have absolutely no problems accepting this as the truth!
Good work =)

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notgordian
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Puzzle #8 is up, and Brackin's cryptic as usual.

Quote:
I bid my farewell to salty Captain Stueve on Friday afternoon, and walked all night and morning along the highway to the place felt was right. As darkness rolled in and I watched the night launch of man's greatest exploration, I shed a silent tear knowing that I had accomplished the first part of my mission as instructed. In the darkness of the swampy marshland I was approached and given an ancient parchment written ages ago in anticipation of this night. The last brother of an ancient brotherhood which has waited for my arrival in this place for nearly half a millennium, since the time of the Spanish explorers. His dying breath was to translate the ancient Latin text for me, though I have since confirmed it online. Here is the first quatrain for your mustard seed faith, or confirmation in the case of the true believers.

A star rises towards the sky,
The nations united above the heavens.
The prophecy is passed to the new witness,
The incomplete circle leads the way.

It is humbling. I have passed my test of faith. I now know that our fate is set. Like the ancient oracles of Greece, prophecy is nothing more than knowledge applied correctly. Nostradamus was a man of faith, yes; but more importantly he was a man of science. Fujimoto will lose, has lost. Not today but in the end game. The Brotherhood is finally reborn as it was foretold. This place will no longer be revered for the events of April 3, 1513 - but for December 9, 2006. All that remains is to complete the circle - whatever that means.

I think it means I should go to the southernmost point to go west since the shortest distance between two points is not always a straight line.

DEUS EX MACHINA


This confirms the previous answer many times over...the last sentence seems the most significant towards solving our next clue. Key West is the southernmost city in Florida. Could the solution be that easy? Southernmost point, go West?

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Nescirian
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Most of this is just summary from an irc chat with notgordian and xnb.
Definitely St Augustine, he probably walked in the general direction of Cape Canaveral, close enough to see Discovery taking off, per "the night launch of man's greatest exploration" and "A star rises towards the sky". Discovery took off around 9pm on December 9th, heading for the International Space Station, or "The nations united above the heavens."
Following what notgordian said about Key West being the southernmost point, it would make sense that he's following the broken circle of the Florida Keys to get to the place which is the shortest distance from Cuba. He has to travel in a curve to get there, but I guess the shortest distance isn't always a straight line.
Notgordian insidiously induced me to drop Brackin an email about all this, so we'll see what he says.

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Wang Guantao
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Well, surface inspection of Brackins travel route shows that you'd have to be on drugs to call that a circle, so I doubt that's what he's talking about.

Key West is definitely an option even if it seems super obvious.
I'm wondering a bit whether or not the incomplete circle referred to in the quatrain is the Gulf of Mexico.
That looks a bit like an incomplete circle (if you disregard the bit sticking out close to Cuba), and "completing the circle" made up by the coastline of Mexico, Texas Louisiana, Alabama and Florida, you end up near Honduras

Edit--
Hmmm Nescri beat me by a few seconds... damn you! =P

While we're not saying completely the same thing, we're both thinking of the same approach it seems. Map doesn't give much of an actual destination though, so I'm very interested in other ideas, or specifications to this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:46 am
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Forgery
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From Foo:
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If I have deciphered his enigmatic clues correctly then the first letter of each of his aledged locations in these last weeks is all the proof I need to know he is no longer the idealistic dreamer I knew. He has become something far more dangerous.


Interesting. Could somebody list what we already have? See what it could be Foo is spotting.

Forg

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:10 pm
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Wang Guantao
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Already did that in the Foo thread...

It spells out Madness

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Nescirian
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Maybe he just wants to hit every state/country on that circle in order, ending up back in Texas. That's what he's done so far.

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notgordian
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Brackin's new blog entry, containing what appears to be Puzzle #9

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Irony or fate?

Destiny is not without a sense of irony it seems.
As I sit looking out over "the gulf" at the literal end of the highway, looking out over the ocean, pennyless and at the end of the road - so to speak, I hold in my hand the instructions to "complete the circle" with no idea how to do that. Another boat? A hydroplane? Swim? I am at an Impass.

I suppose it falls to you then true believers. Help me know what to do. A nice woman with a camera phone finally helped me upload the picture and bought me a coffee. I must smell worse than I thought. I believe this to be the right thing to do because of the use of the "pure tongue" in the script. It seems that Maxine deSauch's translation was a bit off - but considering everything that's happened I'm willing to overlook it. Here is a transcription (and translation of the first quatrain again) of the document to the best of my ability I hope it is close enough for you all:

A star rises towards the sky,
The nations united above the heavens.
The prophecy is passed to the new witness,
The incomplete circle leads the way.

The pure tongue unlocks the prophecy
Until the time it can be read by all.
Machines of light and fire abound.
Infinite copies of infinite tru[ths.]

The sliver moon sees the trave[ler] stop.
His way blocked by the [impassible] gulf.
Waiting for the blackbird [to come,]
The root of evil [makes empty] pockets full.

The brother's end is [his beginning.]
When [broken] links are re[formed,]
Three ag[ainst] one he will [stand,]
Prisoner [only] to [fate and faith.]

In [De]us City there is [deafening] thunder,
two witnesses [are torn apart] by chaos,
while [found]ations [stand fi]rm, a leader falls.
The [th]ird horrible [war begins] as the city is consumed.

[From] the center of [Earth spe]w earthquakes and fire,
Ashes, lime, an[d dust are] thrown from the walls.
Close to the [great thousand yea]rs,
The heavens [draw] n[ear to recon]ciliation.

The time of [great gr]oaning is at hand.
Mirrors and s[hadow]s shatter and fade.
Blood, bone, and [ma]rrow consume the fat.
Like the Phoenix, [de]ath's shackle is broken.

DEUS EX MACHINA


This confirms my Key West, FL answer (the southern terminus for US Highway 1 and dividing line between the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico) for Puzzle #8 and leaves us with Puzzle #9. Puzzles away!

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WolfHawk
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I just made the following comments on the Brotherhood blog:

Quote:
15 December, 2006

Anonymous said...
Are you sure about the smudged words? I see you've enclosed the translations in brackets on the blog, but are you sure the translations are correct?

WolfHawk

15 December, 2006

Anonymous said...
Sorry, I just noticed something else. The sentence: "The root of evil [makes empty] pockets full." Presumably this refers to money, however, this is the most often misquoted phrase from the bible. The actual sentence is "The love of money is the root of all evil." If this was an intentional misquote then perhaps a clue lies therein.

WolfHawk


Am still trying to find further clues in the "poem" for lack of a better word.

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notgordian
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Random thoughts to hopefully spur someone on--the only type of blackbird native to the Florida Keys region is the Red-Winged Blackbird. Attempts to find migratory flight patterns of said bird (to "complete the circle" of migration) has been unsuccessful so far.

I rechecked the words in the picture versus the words Brackin transcribed...as far as I can make out, it is probably the same. So the significance might be based on the positioning of smudges (I already tried destegging the image with variations on "madness", "tongue", and "pure tongue"

Also, the phrasing is the "root of evil", not the "root of all evil"--so perhaps it is referencing the origin, when Eve bit the apple in Eden. Which means...Brackin is going to sell apples for money?

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