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phensley
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 		new riddle at ashgrove park
Just two hairs grow upon her head,
But she wears a flowered gown
And dances along the flower bed -
The prettiest creature in town!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:03 am
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LazarusLong
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 		I think the answer is:

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A butterfly


But I may be wrong.
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dmax
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 		I think LL is right, but my first thought was a snail... Rolling Eyes
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 		Butterflys and chaos theory.... a Lorenz connection
In the chaos fractal theory of planetary weather, one idea is that a butterfly flaps its wings could cause a monsoon somewhere in the world, just fromt he minor wind current it stirs up.

Edward Lorenz shows up again in this:

http://interzone.com/~cheung/Page.dir/pg.metaworld4.html
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Chaos theory is the sciences about non-linearity. Non-linearity is everywhere; the majority of all of nature's phenomena are non-linear. Classically, we've shyed away from non-linearity. We assume a locality of assumption, approximations to convergence, and that small perturbations have no effect globally.

Lorenz first asked is weather deterministic? In 1961 he modeled the weather, and found out that small changes in the input can cause huge changes in the output. The weather is fractal. A small change ripples upward.



http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~ldb/seminar/butterfly.html
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Edward Lorenz was a mathematician and meteorologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who loved the study of weather. With the advent of computers, Lorenz saw the chance to combine mathematics and meteorology. He set out to construct a mathematical model of the weather, namely a set of differential equations that represented changes in temperature, pressure, wind velocity, etc. In the end, Lorenz stripped the weather down to a crude model containing a set of 12 differential equations.

On a particular day in the winter of 1961, Lorenz wanted to re-examine a sequence of data coming from his model. Instead of restarting the entire run, he decided to save time and restart the run from somewhere in the middle. Using data printouts, he entered the conditions at some point near the middle of the previous run, and re-started the model calculation. What he found was very unusual and unexpected. The data from the second run should have exactly matched the data from the first run. While they matched at first, the runs eventually began to diverge dramatically - the second run losing all resemblance to the first within a few "model" months
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This led Lorenz to realize that long-term weather forecasting was doomed. His simple model exhibits the phenomenon known as "sensitive dependence on initial conditions." This is sometimes referred to as the butterfly effect, i.e. a butterfly flapping its wings in South America can affect the weather in Central Park. The question then arises - why does a set of completely deterministic equations exhibit this behavior? After all, scientists are often taught that small initial perturbations lead to small changes in behavior. This was clearly not the case in Lorenz's model of the weather. The answer lies in the nature of the equations; they were nonlinear equations. While they are difficult to solve, nonlinear systems are central to chaos theory and often exhibit fantastically complex and chaotic behavior.

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konamouse
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 		Interesting thought about butterflys, Magsteff.
Go back to Dale's aquarium, click on About Us, and then the right arrow to refind The Wishing Well - or - Releasing The Butterfly of Chaos by Frater Choronzon.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=644&highlight=choronzon
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