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libraryofbabel - 07-DEC-06 - Pathways
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chimera245
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Monarch Butterflies

They live in Australia too, we had one in our garden the other day.

http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/monarch.htm

Don't know if that is relevant or not.

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Percent + Danaus plexippus = Perplex?

Could be a (bad) pun?

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Re: aiko aiko
An Idea?

ramsfan wrote:
Sorry if it's covered elsewhere, but would love to know how you got that message (it's late, forgive me if it's obvious). Googled new york public library and artpad and got this site, which mentions that Michael Borges is the Director of the New York Library Association.
http://poklib.org/downloads/rotunda-fall-2006.pdf
EDIT: so my mind does work better after 6 hours sleep, than when I've been up for 20. Now I get it. I'll ask a friend with friends in Manhatten if any of them like wild goose chases in public spaces.


Just picking up on what Ramsfan said that everyone missed, didn't one of the messages say that Borges was a good place to start? In the context of the rest of the message everyone took this to mean Jorge Luis as it was about authorship but maybe Ramsfan stumbled upon something here, maybe the message was referring to this Borges (Michael) and we have missed it. Maybe there is something hidden in the NY public library web site that we need to find to help us? Just an idea.

I had another idea about the five fingers clue to, what if, as suggested by others it means halve the world, everyone has taken this to mean that the cube is in the Northern Hemisphere, what if it is to do with the GMT line that runs through Greenwich? Is there something in that area of London that we could link to anything in solving where the cube is hidden? Just an idea . . .

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Meridian

Oh, I do like that. And it fits with my obsession that it's in London. OK, I did also have a feeling it was in Oxford before, but we'll ignore that. I did first think FRBP might stand for From Buckingham Palace, or Battersea Park. The latter because Mind Candy's offices are round the corner, and the letters almost stand out. However Greenwich is a nice idea.
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Realm?

I can't help thinking that one of the other clues REALM refers to a kingdom, the only Kingdom I can think of that is in regular use is the UNITED KINGDOM.

That would give us :

Northern Hemisphere

United Kingdom

Now the region - Any ideas anyone lol. How could we find a region from the clues we have been given, I'm sure there are far more clever people than me that may have some ideas?

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Re: Realm?

[quote="sirichj"]I can't help thinking that one of the other clues REALM refers to a kingdom, the only Kingdom I can think of that is in regular use is the UNITED KINGDOM.

I've just had another thought, how about if REALM referred to a place that has a monarch (thinking of the monarch butterfly) that could give us GREAT BRITAIN - and following on from that;

A region, with regards to the British Isles, is not a county as most people (including me) think, but it simply refers to one of the countries, so for Britain it could be England, Scotland, NI or Wales, that could give us ENGLAND as our Region.

Alternatively, assuming that UK is the REALM, here are the list of regions and some background info :
Quote:

Government Office Regions (GORs)

Government Offices for the Regions were established across England in 1994. Reflecting a number of government departments they aim to work in partnership with local people and organisations in order to maximise prosperity and the quality of life within their area. In 1996 the regions covered, known as Government Office Regions, became the primary classification for the presentation of regional statistics.

At creation there were 10 GORs but in 1998 Merseyside was merged with the rest of the North West to leave the pattern shown on the map. GORs are built up of complete counties/unitary authorities so although they are subject to change they always reflect administrative boundaries as at the end of the previous year. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not subdivided into GORs but are listed with them as regions in UK-wide statistical comparisons.

The former Standard Statistical Regions (SSRs)

Standard Statistical Regions (SSRs) were the primary classification for English regional statistics prior to the adoption of GORs. They are now rarely used, and are certainly no longer 'Standard'.

The 8 SSRs are also based on whole administrative units, but do not have any administrative function. Most SSRs have the same names and boundaries as the GORs, but there are the following differences:

i) The North SSR consists of the North East GOR together with Cumbria (which is part of the North West GOR).
ii) London does not exist as an SSR in its own right; instead it is part of the South East SSR.
iii) The East of England GOR does not exist as an SSR. Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire and Peterborough form the East Anglia SSR; the rest of the GOR is part of the South East SSR.
iv) The Yorkshire and The Humber GOR covers the same area as the Yorkshire and Humberside SSR.

GORs and SSRs use the names and codes listed below. Note that between 1996 and 1999 there were several changes to the GOR list.

GORs (01/99-)

A North East
B North West
D Yorkshire and The Humber
E East Midlands
F West Midlands
G East of England
H London
J South East
K South West

GORs (08/98-01/99)

A North East
B North West
D Yorkshire and The Humber
E East Midlands
F West Midlands
G Eastern
H London
J South East
K South West

GORs (04/96-07/9Cool

A North East
B North West
C Merseyside
D Yorkshire and the Humber
E East Midlands
F West Midlands
G Eastern
H London
J South East
K South West

SSRs

1 North
2 Yorkshire and Humberside
3 East Midlands
4 East Anglia
5 South East
6 South West
7 West Midlands
8 North West


Any use to anyone or am I going off on a tangent???

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http://ec.europa.eu/comm/eurostat/ramon/nuts/home_regions_en.html
OK?

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Maybe?

I'll tell you why I think it's somewhere around by London, apart from the fact that when PXC started MC didn't know this was going to take off around the World and as the cube was buried before the game started, surely it would make sense to bury it somewhere near where most of its assumed players would be i.e. somewhere in the UK.

Why London -
Quote:
"It starts where it ends, (and where it
Starts is by finding the secret location)".
In message 5 this was a clue, so where did it all start? Thinking about this as a reference to the game and not to the cube where did we all start - THE LONDON UNDERGROUND when messages about the games release were put up on posters on the tube.

I may be wrong but someone will have to come up with something pretty convincing for me to believe its not in the UK !

Of course this is all speculation Wink Wink

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Re: Maybe?

sirichj wrote:
I'll tell you why I think it's somewhere around by London, apart from the fact that when PXC started MC didn't know this was going to take off around the World and as the cube was buried before the game started, surely it would make sense to bury it somewhere near where most of its assumed players would be i.e. somewhere in the UK.

Why London -
Quote:
"It starts where it ends, (and where it
Starts is by finding the secret location)".
In message 5 this was a clue, so where did it all start? Thinking about this as a reference to the game and not to the cube where did we all start - THE LONDON UNDERGROUND when messages about the games release were put up on posters on the tube.

I may be wrong but someone will have to come up with something pretty convincing for me to believe its not in the UK !

Of course this is all speculation Wink Wink


In that case, may I suggest that someone dig up the Abbey Road zebra crossing. I know it's not aboreal, but heck it would be fun - might even make the news. Anyone got a pneumatic drill?

Not that I'm condoning criminal damage. Then again, if it does turn out to be there I demand at least a 10% share. But feel free to get back on topic without me.

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Re: Meridian

ramsfan wrote:
Oh, I do like that. And it fits with my obsession that it's in London. OK, I did also have a feeling it was in Oxford before, but we'll ignore that. I did first think FRBP might stand for From Buckingham Palace, or Battersea Park. The latter because Mind Candy's offices are round the corner, and the letters almost stand out. However Greenwich is a nice idea.


Is it just me randomly speculating or does Buckingham Palace fit with the highlighted M & E in Flying??

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Re: Meridian

Tornan Steel wrote:
Is it just me randomly speculating or does Buckingham Palace fit with the highlighted M & E in Flying??


It is possible, but it might cause a bit of a cuffufle if one were to descend upon the palace (unannounced) and armed with a shovel. Razz
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Re: Meridian

ramsfan wrote:
Oh, I do like that. And it fits with my obsession that it's in London. OK, I did also have a feeling it was in Oxford before, but we'll ignore that. I did first think FRBP might stand for From Buckingham Palace, or Battersea Park. The latter because Mind Candy's offices are round the corner, and the letters almost stand out. However Greenwich is a nice idea.


Excuse me for being thick but where did the FRBP come from???

If it is in London, or any other town or city its got to be somewhere that we're allowed to go digging so that does narrow it down a bit !

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*rerails the thread a bit*

FRBP comes from the Pathways partial solution, which is the string:

FRBPULAFHPOSMLUCNIDYMENDBKIELGTPDOAAKILTIO

This gives more detail (and yes I know it is a trout as this thread is all about this, but it's got a bit lost):

http://perplexcitywiki.com/wiki/Wave_4_Number_Strings

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Re: Maybe?

sirichj wrote:
I'll tell you why I think it's somewhere around by London, apart from the fact that when PXC started MC didn't know this was going to take off around the World and as the cube was buried before the game started, surely it would make sense to bury it somewhere near where most of its assumed players would be i.e. somewhere in the UK.



[TIAG] sorry to throw a spanner in the works, but MC could have buried the cube just before the CT messages and tailored the clues to suit [/TIAG]

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Re: Maybe?

But I read somewhere more than once that the cube was buried BEFORE the game started so they couldn't have rigged the burial to suit the clues, the clues are there to help us find it.

The cube would have to have been buried a long time ago so that if someone had an idea where it was they could go and look, imagine if you knew where the cube was, went to dig it up and it wasn't there for someone to then re-visit that spot months later and the cube had been buried there then, wouldn't you be a little bit annoyed lol.

Thats why the cube is out there and has been for a very long time !

I think whoever has designed the puzzles and clues are very clever, I tip my hat to them ! Rock On [/quote]

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