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libraryofbabel - 07-DEC-06 - Pathways
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inatimate
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Hmm... Interesting find, we've been told that the cube is located in an "arboreal" place though after Receda's Revenge #2, sorry to put a dampener on things but I also can't see anyone letting us dig up a public library Laughing , I think we are on the right trail though, and can see this whole puzzle being solved soon and the cube being found Very Happy

Personally the "Yellow Cars" in Dissolution put me on the scent of New York so i there is a strong possibility we are in the right place, but still, in reality it could be anywhere Sad

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unrealt87
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Brain... Melting...
This is an awful lot of work for £100,000 isnt it :p
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I'm currently in NYC... probably going into the city tomorrow... if there is anywhere random youz guyz want me to swing by and check out send me a PM... I'll probably be going to the library anyway, and checkin out some plaster cramps maybe an axaxxxxas mlo or two..

I hope this chaos ends soon..

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Well..I also got Lindstrom, Adamek, Loan, Mind Candy, Book amongst others from the the text string. It's just that I used all the letters available (if they are the correct letters) for the submitted 'solution'.
I'm still looking..

Could arboreal mean 'the oak room' not just a living woodland?

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inatimate
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It could indeed now that I think about it, the definition of arboreal is "relating to or resembling trees" indeed, the cube may not be in a wood, but could be somewhere that has a referance to trees either in its name or appearance, there must be something which comes from each of the videos to tell us exactly where the cube is, from what I have read this is what I believe each has helped us with...

1 - Northern Half Of The World
2 -
3 -
4 -
5 - The method to decode "secret location" and the five fingers point message.
6 - The order in which to read the number strings
7 - The letters from taking each number string path, and how to get to them

I think that 2, 3 and 4 have messages in there

2 - "realise" has a lot of speculation going around about the leaves used in the flash

3 - Nothing totally obvious from this as of yet, so possibly a large clue hiding in here somewhere?

4 - "arrangements" - The Receda's Revenge in the background might be the main clue here, as it led us to the second instalment of the Adventure, but is there more to this flash than meets the eye?


All of the pages on the LoB will probably be linked in some way, and as this page was put up just over 2 weeks ago, I wouldn't rule out another flash being created in the future, Im sure someone said there was space for 9 videos somewhere??

I would say though that the letters from the middle of the numberstrings could play a huge part in the solution, Ive just this feeling that there is something bug hidden in the whole thing Confused

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I was having a chat on the chat room yesterday and I feel that we are still missing one of the major clues in the flash. Towards the end of all the pathways when the 4 letters appear and as the screen goes to "motion, held fast" there is the following image



I'm sure you've all seen it before but no-one seems to be using it.

Butterflies and percentage signs..... Chaos Theory??
Is there anything in the Library of Babel story that could help??

We need to get some spec going. Lets not give up. I thought I was doing well working out that the key represented key square. I came on here and you've already done all the pathways and got the string of letters. I wouldn't even know where to start. I don't think old CT would have left that image for no reason. We just need to work out where it fits into all of this......

Oh and hi.... I'm Tornan Steel... nice to meet you all.

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flapping

I'd not gone further than thinking of papillon, and escaping prisons using keys. I agree it might be pointing to chaos, or given the percentages, probability. My nephew said that the machine code points to ionhel (?helion), ie the centre of motion held fast, in relation to the central area which seems clickable. He also pointed out the series of oxymorons (they teach them a lot at AS level now) of which motion held fast is one (OK perhaps not strictly, but you know what he means).
EDIT; Should credit Caol who mentioned in the first page about the central area.
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I agree with you there Tornan, I kind of had the idea of following the paths from Key Square in the way that it was shown in the flash, but had no idea where to go after that, checked on here and everything was already done Laughing , I do think that the Papillon has something to do with the puzzle, it must be more than a coincidence that it seems to be pictured here and was mentioned in the "5th flash?" (could be the 6th flash)

The percentage signs also offer a mystery as such, possibly the number 100 is conected to the location?? (percentages are out of 100), and also visable in the background of the picture are 2 circles around the key, I wonder if these have any significance as well?? Question

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If Motion Held Fast means anything perhaps it is referring to a sculpture? Or a fountain?
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i thought it reffered to a butterfly in constent motion, yet appering still. Chaos theory, lol, i've done my share allready. the double circle does look like a "Phase diagram for a damped driven pendulum, with double period motion". if i'm understanding this right, (and i'm not, Rolling Eyes ) then CT is our little butterfly, and s/he's moving their wings by coming to earth via k00b. the ripple? it's us being dumbarsses.

I believe the person who finds the cube will the the one with the worstest (most boringest) JOB.
I believe I've got a running start.
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I don't think I'm stock savvy enough to see if there's anything to make out of this, but I found something interesting while googling this morning:

A Butterfly Spread:
An options strategy built on four trades at one expiration date and three different strike prices. For call options, one option each at the high and low strike price are bought, and two options at the middle strike price are sold. For put options, the trades are reversed. This is a limited risk, limited return strategy that pays off when the price of the underlier remains around the middle strike price. This strategy is essentially a combination of a bull and bear spread.

from: http://www.investorwords.com/635/butterfly_spread.html

Anyway, there's a lot of references to percentiles, so I thought maybe someone might be able to glean something useful. Maybe the four trades are four corners, and the high andlow strike prices are the + and - signs from Ticks? I don't know.

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BUTTERFLY WINGS
Symbols on wing edges

Has anyone noticed the symbols that make up the edges of the butterfly?
I have a screen grab with colour reversed which makes it a bit easier to see, and they look like mathematical symbols. If anyone wants to see it, just tell me how to upload it here.

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symbols and percentages

So "arrange the numbers in mathematical certainty" or dig up the New York Stock Exchange, aka the Big Board? Do seem to be a lot of similarities with the butterfly spread. I can't believe it's not ..... The symbols seem to be partly mathematical, but I can see some repeated kanji.
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Mandarry> just use a image loading site, i.e. tinypic.com
i'd love to see it. thought i saw kanji too!


EDIT!!! >>> Just did some searching, and it looks like I found the EXACT butterfly they used, if not, damn close!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Danaus_plexippusZZ.jpg

say hello to our friend the Monarch Butterfly! say, 5 fingers, huh?... Could their habitat be our realm/region

here's a link to a 4 year old M.Butterfly pattern map.
http://www.mtycounty.com/pgs-animals/images/migration.jpg

looks like they ONLY live in N.America.
(cross check that map with this one of N.America's forests: http://www.unep-wcmc.org/forest/data/cdrom2/nam_for.htm
don't leave too much...... Wink )
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danaus

danaus had 50 daughters, and his twin brother had 50 sons. he built the first boat and fled to argos. the sales had started.
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