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[PUZZLE] second redirectme
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 		[PUZZLE] second redirectme
So we are looking for a second redirectme link.

We have alot of various things that still dont make sense, any of which could point to a new redirectme.

There have been various refrences to Hamlet. A specific line was pointed to here:

Quote:
rhinojock27 (9:16:00 PM): Hmm.
rhinojock27 (9:16:04 PM): I will explain.
rhinojock27 (9:17:32 PM): I suggest you reference Hamlet, roughly Act 3, scene 4.
rhinojock27 (9:17:50 PM): Roughly line 17.
rhinojock27 (9:17:59 PM): "Play" on words.
rhinojock27 (9:18:03 PM): He he he he.


However there is also the matter of 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen' and 'Purity, innocence, sovereignty, surrender, cowardice, death, rebirth, even West or metal or a whale'

I thought this was worthy of a new thread, so any ideas?! Is any of it (from the videos and chat logs - found here) worthy of focusing on specifically? Is any of this a red herring?

There are various different versions of Hamlet. Which may hinder us slightly. For example line 17 on this website gives a different line to the one Jabroni quoted (personally I would go with Jabroni's version)
Are we looking for a 'play on words' as hinted?

EDIT: Looking at Jabroni's Hamlet refrence:
Quote:

HAMLET: No, sit down. You won't budge until I hold a mirror up to you, where you will see what's deep inside you.


in my Hamlet version its:

Quote:
Come, come, and sit you down; you shall not budge; You go not till I set you up a glass where you may see the inmost part of you.


Ive tried mirror.redirectme.net but it doesnt load. However I think it might be active - how do we check this?
glass.redirectme.net doesnt exist.

Edit: Looking at the version of hamlet I found, Line 17 is roughly:

Quote:
No, by the rood, not so:
You are the queen, your husband's brother's wife;
And--would it were not so!--you are my mother.


A rood is Anglo Saxon for 'pole' as well as various other things:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rood
Quote:

The phrase "by the rood" was used in swearing, e.g. "No, by the rood, not so" in Shakespeare's Hamlet (Act 3, Scene 4).


Links ive tried so far:
Crucifix
Rod
Rood
Pole
Mirror
Glass
Cross
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 		I think this deserves its own thread.

Its only 'Purity, innocence, sovereignty, surrender, cowardice, death, rebirth, even West or metal or a whale' that rhino connects to hamlet. When he is asked about 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen' his reponse i something like, it sounds like a sad boy. Maybe he is not the right character to ask about 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen'?

On the other hand, the lines you and Jabroni has found, says something about a mirror, which matches the line followed by 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen': 'what left of yours is right of mine' which would be the same as a mirror image.

Hamlet is often compared to prometheus, the greek titan deity who stole fire from zeus and gave it to Man, and the Statue of Prometheus is featured in the background in 'Merry Christmas Mom and dad', connection? and we have Thyanatomic (Titanomachy). And BrotherChadster's myspace profile is HermesGodOfSport. There is a lot of greek in this ARG.


cissmiace wrote:
Links ive tried so far:
Crucifix
Rod
Rood
Pole
Mirror
Glass
Cross


Ive tried: (*.redirectme.net) bold is a hit.
prometheus
promethium (a metal, and greek)
olympian (a video streaming server! Must investigate further)
weather (nipping and eager air) a https server with an empty directory.
gold (is an eager metal) a login page from hong kong.

Also: Cetus (a constellation of the southern sky) that is almost due west. And its greek for Whale (lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetus) But i cant connect it to a metal Confused and it gives no hit on redirectme.net

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Jimbooze wrote:
I think this deserves its own thread.

Its only 'Purity, innocence, sovereignty, surrender, cowardice, death, rebirth, even West or metal or a whale' that rhino connects to hamlet. When he is asked about 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen' his reponse i something like, it sounds like a sad boy. Maybe he is not the right character to ask about 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen'?

On the other hand, the lines you and Jabroni has found, says something about a mirror, which matches the line followed by 'Blue Hunk Kills Liz Amen': 'what left of yours is right of mine' which would be the same as a mirror image.

Hamlet is often compared to prometheus, the greek titan deity who stole fire from zeus and gave it to Man, and the Statue of Prometheus is featured in the background in 'Merry Christmas Mom and dad', connection? and we have Thyanatomic (Titanomachy). And BrotherChadster's myspace profile is HermesGodOfSport. There is a lot of greek in this ARG.


cissmiace wrote:
Links ive tried so far:
Crucifix
Rod
Rood
Pole
Mirror
Glass
Cross


Ive tried: (*.redirectme.net) bold is a hit.
prometheus
promethium (a metal, and greek)
olympian (a video streaming server! Must investigate further)
weather (nipping and eager air) a https server with an empty directory.
gold (is an eager metal) a login page from hong kong.

Also: Cetus (a constellation of the southern sky) that is almost due west. And its greek for Whale (lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetus) But i cant connect it to a metal Confused and it gives no hit on redirectme.net


Wow great finds!

I dont know about anyone else, but ive never seen any other interaction with any charecter aside from rhinojock, Sam yoder and Eddie.

Speaking of which, has anyone tried emailing Eddie again? Or heard anything from him? Or perhaps we could ask Sam?

Edit: The only was I can link Cetus to metal is via a rock band Laughing
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 		The Whale part in 'even West or metal or a Whale' could refer to:

Quote:
Hamlet: Do you see yonder cloud that's almost in shape of a camel?
Polonius: By the mass, and 'tis like a camel, indeed.
Hamlet: Methinks it is like a weasel.
Polonius: It is backed like a weasel.
Hamlet: Or like a whale?
Polonius: Very like a whale.


I've tried to anagram the sentence and got

hamlet weasel (over near two) , its not complete and i could be way off, but i think there is simething there. If thats true, maybe we don't need to solve it, because Rhino pointed us to hamlet, and maybe it is just a hint to hamlet?

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 		I forgot to mention that whole "petite teenage twatski stingless gent" as well.

I dont think that was solved either.

Apparently twatski is urban slang for:

Quote:
Russian Female. Used to describe recent female immigrants from Russia or the former Soviet Republics.


Great find on the refrence to Whale! It could possibley be a clue for Hamlet, and that maybe the PM decided to tell us himself instead.

But its deffinatley worth looking into
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 		Another redirect with login screen, probably nothing: http://crown.redirectme.net/

Apparently twatski is urban slang for:

Quote:
Russian Female. Used to describe recent female immigrants from Russia or the former Soviet Republics.


Yes, all the word point at the same:
petite (little)
teenage (young)
twatski (russian female)
stingless gent (Well a female i guess)

which makes me think that the code has to be solved by other means than synonyms. Why use these words?

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Jimbooze wrote:
Another redirect with login screen, probably nothing: http://crown.redirectme.net/

Apparently twatski is urban slang for:

Quote:
Russian Female. Used to describe recent female immigrants from Russia or the former Soviet Republics.


Yes, all the word point at the same:
petite (little)
teenage (young)
twatski (russian female)
stingless gent (Well a female i guess)

which makes me think that the code has to be solved by other means than synonyms. Why use these words?


I feel stumped! We have so much information, I dont know what to look at first! Laughing
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 		I found a hamlet source were line 17 is:
Quote:
GERTRUDE
Nay, then I'll set those to you that can speak.

http://nfs.sparknotes.com/hamlet/page_196.html
It counts line by dialog, not character name or scene directions.

That could mean that we should talk to another character?

But if its the mirror thing that Rhino references, then Speculum Regale (Kings mirror) could tie, whale, metal (usably made of metal) , mirror, but not 'even west' (I Think).

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Jimbooze wrote:
I found a hamlet source were line 17 is:
Quote:
GERTRUDE
Nay, then I'll set those to you that can speak.

http://nfs.sparknotes.com/hamlet/page_196.html
It counts line by dialog, not character name or scene directions.

That could mean that we should talk to another character?

But if its the mirror thing that Rhino references, then Speculum Regale (Kings mirror) could tie, whale, metal (usably made of metal) , mirror, but not 'even west' (I Think).


The trouble I have with spark notes is this:

Quote:

nicoleisgrrreat (9:08:47 PM): I always read the spark notes
rhinojock27 (9:10:12 PM): How unfortunate! You lose such quality of the work, the poetic nature, the feething, the emotion, the association.


Im not sure weather thats him telling us to avoid it or not =\
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 		I think it is just the summary part of the notes we should avoid. The "play" on words demand the clean text.

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 		Perhaps if someone sees rhinojock online, they should quote some of what you found? See if it gets a response?
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Quote:
rhinojock27: What service thing?
Brrittany: you know what i mean.
rhinojock27: I really don't know what you are talking about, after all, I am not connected with this.
rhinojock27: But if I were to conjecture...
rhinojock27: I would think that it would mean---
rhinojock27: Hmm. Lovely weather we have been having...


makes me think that maybe weather.redirectme.net is the right redirect?!

It redirects to https://68.99.7.212/ a empty directory, maybe our next step is guess the right file? maybe combine it with the blue hunk thing, HUNK shifts to html on a phone.

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Jimbooze wrote:
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rhinojock27: What service thing?
Brrittany: you know what i mean.
rhinojock27: I really don't know what you are talking about, after all, I am not connected with this.
rhinojock27: But if I were to conjecture...
rhinojock27: I would think that it would mean---
rhinojock27: Hmm. Lovely weather we have been having...


makes me think that maybe weather.redirectme.net is the right redirect?!

It redirects to https://68.99.7.212/ a empty directory, maybe our next step is guess the right file? maybe combine it with the blue hunk thing, HUNK shifts to html on a phone.


Oooh good spot! Doesnt look like theres a single file on that whole of that directory though Sad

Edit: I just tried 3417.redirectme.net too in a vain attempt
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 		Hes online!!!

EDIT For the love of christ, he signed off as SOON as I changed my status from invisible.
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Hes online!!!

EDIT For the love of christ, he signed off as SOON as I changed my status from invisible.


Damn! Confused

Maybe its a stretch but im working on 'even West..' as an anagram. It is probably not worthy of a spoiler tag, but just in case:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
weather seven levels more two ana or weather two levels more seven ana
considered that weather.redirectme.net is active it could be it. and one of the W's is in capital, maybe to indicate it is the first letter.

I think that it is 'seven more levels', we have 'Purity, innocence, sovereignty, surrender, cowardice, death, rebirth' maybe that are subdirs?


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