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[White District] Typo[SOLVED]
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Agent Lex
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friscodude wrote:
Well according to the newly updated interface, 3 people have solved the task/puzzle. This is making me feel stupid, but alas, I don't have the credits to attempt any more solves.


I've been wondering about that. I think those 3 solves are 3 test accounts, since all of the puzzles we haven't solved have 3 solves, and the new one that opened recently very quickly got 2 solves before I noticed the error.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:42 pm
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Wabonan
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 		lol If I find out 3 people figured out this puzzle and I spent 1000 credits and they didn't give us the results...I guess I just have to come to their house and kill them. so just give me their IP's..lol

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:57 pm
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Pied Piper
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 		Wabonan, count me in on that--I've got a good fireplace poker that would work great!

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WolfHawk
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 		I'd have to agree! Those had BETTER be test solves that the PMs used to check our complaints!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:11 am
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SteveMids
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 		TYPO
My Guess for the process of elimination was :
1. Garamond
2. Old Baskerville
3. Cooper Old Style
4. Gill Sans
5. Times New Roman
6. Optima
7. Comic Sans


And all I got for my efforts were 200 less credits and ........

{
Typo
Don't be ridiculous. Maybe Nettleton does need to hold your hand?

You have received positive Karma.


Try Again
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:54 am
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friscodude
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 		They even went as far as to bold/add in new directions on the "letter" describing the task the puzzle entails. I can't see how anyone is expected to be able to correctly identify seven fonts, some of which have a few similar fonts as well, get an accurate date for their establishment, then figure out whether or not you're even inputting the answers correctly. Add in a credit increase rate that guarantees a minimum wait of 10 days to try another answer if you have exactly 200 credits before your wrong answer, and this could take forever to solve. =/
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Wang Guantao
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 		Well it's something to do ain't it? Wink

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:41 am
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Rumgoat
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 		Broke Again
Okay, I've been lurking here because this is making me crazy.

Here was my failure, using the powers of www.identifont.com

1. Garamond #3
2. Baskerville Old Face
3. Cooper Old Style
4. Gill Sans
5. Times New Roman
6. Lucida Sans
7. Comic Sans

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SteveMids
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 		Lucida Sans?
Rumgoat,


Welcome to the hive mind, come in, sit down and ponder!

OK - Just wanted to point a few items out that it would appear that you overlooked whilst trying to identify (I believe the middle right font, from main block of six), or the one that was numbered 5, until many agents assumed that they had already been ordered, (the other addendum to this task - Bold instructions were noted elsewhere). If this is not the sample that you derived was Lucida Sans, then my apologies and this is not going to make any sense to you!

Sample - Puzzle - Lucida Sans
"A" - Top appears "pointed" - Top is Flat
"G" - Top curves around - Top remains "open" (more so)
"G" - No foot/curved smooth - Has squared "slab" foot
"Q" - Tail contained in width - Tail extends past the right side
"f" - Rounded/Ball cusp at top - No cusp present
"y" - Tail (above/below) equal - Tail much shorter than height
"&" - Top tail points to NE - Top tail points to N
"2" No fancy explanation – the shape is just wrong!!

I too, used www.identifont.com but also used another website (name escapes me), that allows you to upload an image, and the system identifies the font after you make sure the reader is "seeing" the right thing.

It has to be said though that this "secondary" website was a waste of time anyway. For me at least, seeing if there are cusps/feet/serifs/etc. is difficult enough with the naked eye, let alone an optical reader that made me put three or four parts of a picture together just to get it to recognise a single entry!!!

With all that said, I have to admit that I haven't completed this one successfully yet, and am not sure which answer(s) is/are (not) correct.

Just my view, others may agree with your answers more so over mine,


SM

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SteveMids
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 		Definition
Quote:
A helpful and still valid distinction between font and typeface is a font's status as a discrete commodity with legal restrictions, while typeface designates a visual appearance or style not immediately reducible to any one foundry's production or proprietary control.



Not sure if the above quote, (lifted straight off the wikipedia definition of typeface), is going to make any difference at all to the dates that we have come up with.

The way that I would now put these into chronological order would be to search on the typeface name, and regardless of sub-category, (ie. Cooper Old Style becomes just Cooper, similarly for Baskerville), and use the earliest possible date.

The reason I say this is that, and I think someone else kind of eluded to this earlier in the thread, (Pied Piper?), is that the specific "font" used, (and I use the word font in line with above quote), usually contains discrete, sometimes absurdly discrete minor alterations, enabling each to be classed as distinct, and therefore making the "font" an invention which can then be protected and traded like a commodity.

Thoughts???


SM

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:51 am
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Rumgoat
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 		Maybe Lucida Sans wasn't the best choice
I worked through some of this at work. I just hoped my failure would help someone. That is Cooper Oldstyle though, just look at the ampersand. And Garamond #3, I think I nailed that. Or maybe not. Are the puppetmasters also fontmasters? Typesetters?

Random. I doubt they even know.

Rumgoat

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notgordian
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 		It may not actually be the PMs. Before the game began, they put out an open call for puzzle submissions.

This particular puzzle appears to be attributed to someone using the pseudonym "Hank Eggrem"

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:08 am
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Diablo
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 		Different
Hey people if we just place the name of the fonts in order how are they going to know which font goes with what? Do we need to put the origional number with the correct font.

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notgordian
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 		Wow....can I just say I am extremely impressed with the turnaround in responsiveness from the PMs regarding these puzzles?

I asked ADPrince for help on Typo (well, he kinda offered first and I jumped on it like a cat on a mouse) and received the following response to the guesses I used.

Quote:
ADPrince says: I have had data processing run your suggestions through the image recognition software. I hope it helps. Here are the results:

>>>TO: ADPRINCE #WD016842-1SA
>>>FROM: CLAIRE NGUYEN #WD915422-2DP
>>>RE: AGENT NOTGORDIAN, TASK "TYPO" DATA.
>>>
>>>Garamond..................24% MATCH = NO MATCH
>>>Sabon.....................98% MATCH = ACCEPTABLE
>>>Cooper Old Style.........100% MATCH = CONFIRMED
>>>Times New Roman...........97% MATCH = ACCEPTABLE
>>>Comic Sans...............100% MATCH = CONFIRMED
>>>Optima....................99% MATCH = ACCEPTABLE
>>>Gill Sans................100% MATCH = CONFIRMED
>>>Baskerville Oldstyle......75% MATCH = UNACCEPTABLE
>>>Baskerville Old Face......86% MATCH = UNACCEPTABLE
>>>
>>>NOTE: PLS ADVISE AGENT THAT ANSWER SHOULD BE SUBMITTED IN DATE ORDER FROM OLDEST TO NEWEST. -CN
>>>
>>>


Diablo, that should answer your question. From a cursory glance, we have all but one of the answers, and "Baskerville" is close--very close.

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echidna
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 		Aah, so close! Thanks for the new info notgordian - just had a confirmed solve using this info and the dates I posted on the page 3 in this thread:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
1. Baskerville
2. Cooper Old Style
3. Gill Sans
4. Times New Roman
5. Optima
6. Sabon
7. Comic Sans


I think we ought to get ADPrince's advice on Composure and Audiophile too Laughing .
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