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OT: Very disturbing...
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Valas
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 		OT: Very disturbing...
Click here. Shocked Mad

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:00 pm
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SarKenobi
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 		I read about that. Evil. Pure evil. My step brother should have been sent there because he doesn't learn.

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SpaceBass
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 		Dude. Seriously. How long before someone games them enough to get out, then returns with some goddamn fucking weaponry. I would.
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MageSteff
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 		Re: OT: Very disturbing...
Valas wrote:
Click here. Shocked Mad


Now if they would just make one for the parents....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:34 pm
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Varin
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 		I just read this article to my husband and he wasn't surprised at any of it at all. He was in drug treatment (about 20 years ago when he was a teenager) and it was almost exactly the same - the signs around the neck, the solitary, no privacy, etc. Shocked
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MageSteff
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 		RANT: ... you were warned....
I'm going ot get up on my soapbox for a bit so you may want to skip this, or save it to inflict on others some day...

Just remember you were warned....

My nice middle class parents got divorced in 1970, a time when middle class did not do such a thing. As the movement grew there were all these articles about how children from broken homes grew up to be juvenile deliquents, drug and alcohol abusers...
Well to that I say BULL SH*T!
My parents got divorced when I was 6 and my brother was 4. Yes, our standard of living dropped a great deal. Neither of us have been in jail, neither of us are candidates for AA's 12 step, I didn't get knocked up, my brother didn't knock anyone up....

My mother worked a full time job as well, so don't go saying it was because she was a home body...

I believe the reason we didn't end up like that is this...
my mother not only talked to us, she also listened. She *cared* about our opinions, even if she didn't agree with them, she let us make our choices and mistakes as long as no one would end up in the hospital, but she talked TO us not AT us. She also gave us respect. Respect that it appears some parents lack.

My mother is my friend. I don't tell her everything, but I also always know that if I have a *BIG* problem I can take it to her without her telling ever telling my I'm an idiot, or stupid.... My mother taught me respect and love, not because she demanded it, but because she gives it.

It is amazing to think that the church my brother and I practically grew up in, and that I went to work for part time while attending college, one of the ladies I worked with said the following:
"Here is your mother raising you and your brother by herself, and both of you are well groomed, well behaved and polite children, while kids with two parents run around and yell at the top of their lungs and don't behave."

Juvenile deliquency isn't caused by being from a broken home. It's not caused by being poor. It comes from not treating each other, including children, with respect.

OK, I think I'm done for the moment.....
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