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[UPDATE] http://www.sri-uk.org/exam.html
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Russell
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I think they mean they got the login rights the rest of us got.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:12 pm
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Rekidk
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Oh, d'oh, sorry. Thanks. Embarassed
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carmenmiranda
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Rekidk wrote:
carmenmiranda wrote:
I was never asked to take the exam...my original response just said this:

From : ExamSPLATsri-uk.org
Reply-To : ExamSPLATsri-uk.org
Sent : Thursday, February 8, 2007 10:05 AM
To : margaretatwood SPLAT hotmail.com
Subject : Registration to SRI Experiment87


You have succesfully registered SRI application form (BW1A).
Please, login to your acount using these login and password:

Login: my login
Password: my password

SRI Community Manager.


So, wait... Have you logged in? Is there any useful information there?


Can I just verify something--am I the only one who got this different response? I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now I'm wondering. I just assumed it was that so many people had finished the crossword puzzle and entered successfully that they just kind of turned the exam bit "off".

The code BW1A--well, these weird codes are seldom there without a reason. Did anyone else's email include a code?

I don't think there's anything different when I log in--I can browse the students, as described here, and view/update my profile.

I'd be happy to post my username/password if nobody else here has gotten this same message.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:19 am
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Jediwannabe
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Was this your response after filling out the questionnaire?
If so, what options did you use, because that certainly is different to what I got

Quote:
Dear Jonathan,

Thank you for taking time to fill in our on-line questionnaire.
We are currently processing your applications for a place at SRI.
To help us with our decision we'd like you to complete this further task:

http://www.sri-uk.org/exam.html


That's all I recieved. The subject heading of your email raises a few questions too... "Experiment87"? As in... 180287?
I'd be very interested to know what combination of answers you provided, and if you recieved a phone interview.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:30 am
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Sylvia
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carmenmiranda, I don't recall receiving an email after enrollment but did receive the same as the others to take the exam.

I also noticed on the http://sri-uk.org/enrol.html page it says:
Quote:
S.R.I application form (BW87)

And yours says:
Quote:
SRI application form (BW1A)


Also i noticed in your profile that you answered EVERY question with the exact SAME answers that Eva gave.

Something is odd here, but I'm not sure what.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:47 am
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carmenmiranda
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I changed my answers yesterday to match Eva's, to see if that made a difference. I've changed them back to what they were originally now. They're mostly about how trusting I am and how nobody would miss me if I was gone.

Sorry about not posting the email earlier--bad assumptions on my part.

I'm going to set up two hotmail accounts, and use my original answers on one, and Eva's answers on another, and see if I get different responses. I'll post the results here.

The experiment thing seemed a bit weird to me as well.

Hmm.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:53 am
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Hi, I'm new, I actually just started playing a couple of days ago and am just catching up.

I also completed the application to SRI and received the following email:


Quote:
To: kelmckinney@yahoo.com
From: Exam@sri-uk.org
Subject: Registration to SRI Experiment87
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:43:08 +0000 (GMT)

You have succesfully registered SRI application form (BW1A).
Please, login to your acount using these login and password:

Login:
Password:

SRI Community Manager.


I didn't receive a subsequent email asking me to take another test- I just logged in. But I think it has something to do with the inkblot test in the initial questionnaire- I read through the profiles and noticed that a lot of people responded with "Erwin" or "cat" when asked about the inkblot. I said "teddy bear". Eva said "Voiphe" which is also what Carmenmiranda answered.

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carmenmiranda
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I think it might be a time thing. I registered fairly late in the game, and got the message above. Today, I've registered with two new email addresses--on one, I gave all shy and sociophobe answers, and with the other all extrovert answers.

I got the Experiment email for both.

I think they may have just changed the response they're sending out.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:18 am
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daemon666
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Well, just to stick my two pence worth in...

I also gave the answer "Teddy Bear" to the inkblot test on the application. My response was also:

Quote:

Subject : Registration to SRI Experiment87

You have succesfully registered SRI application form (BW1A).
Please, login to your acount using these login and password:

Login: Mylogin
Password: Mypassword

SRI Community Manager.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:43 am
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Chramey
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Quote:
You have succesfully registered SRI application form (BW1A).
Please, login to your acount using these login and password:

Login:
Password:

SRI Community Manager.



This is what I received after I registered. I said the inkblot looked like a torso and I said I was not at all psychic. So I think it has more to do with when you sent in the registration. I sent mine in on February 2.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:47 am
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legioninfinity
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 Not even close to the solve

So I was just looking at the exam again, and I was thinking about the deliberate misspelling of enrollment...

And I thought it would be just about right for the solution word to be 'enrol'

So I looked at the answers again...

I wanted a letter O where there was a T
and an L where there was an E
Which got me thinking about a substitution cypher, so I counted the shift out on my fingers only to find out that O is 6 shifts away from T (counting O) and L is 8 shifts across from E...

Then I looked at the clues again, trying to think of a reason, any reason dammit why that should work...

Across:

6: Priest

8: Zadeh

In fairness I didn't literally slap myself in the face, but I might go do it in a minute. I've emailed them with my answer, a few mins before I posted here.
I'm sure there was a great deal more guile and subtle invention to be wrought out of the answer than I managed to find but hell sometimes looking for the answer that you want to find works.

GROVELEDIT: The mind-numbingly obvious foolishness of this last sentence will, I fear, remain fresh for some time. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
The emphasis on lies, fuzzy logic, contradictory and double meanings and inconsistency led me astray.
Or it was lazy reasoning pure and simple. Or too much tea.
Rest assured I have indeed now literally slapped myself in the face. More than once.


love


EDIT: removed profanity, removed spoiler, changed subject line to familiarise self more fully with flavour of humble pie

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:38 pm
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Chramey
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Solve?

I hope you're right, but why would there only be a substitution for those two letters. Wouldn't we have to shift all of the letters in the same way?

If we are counting the original letter as 1, would that make it:

EQVYL or EKNOX depending on which direction you do the shift?

Or am I not getting something?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:45 pm
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manuka
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manuka
out of the square?

Ok so I'm just a newbie to ARG and Geist.. so this is my first try at adding a brick to the wall... sorry if it's not straight:

sooo.. is enter the only solution to the anagram? although it might not be english, you can also get:
entre
rente
terne
treen

I googled each of the these words with 'logic' as it seems to be a constant theme in the crosswords.

I got one interesting hit with terne: ternary logic (which matches Patrick's Triptych theory?).
See especially the True/false/unknown ternary logic, which is relevent to the crosswords...

ok, this is my brick, I don't have great answers, someone witter might want to do something from here.

As for myself, I have just replied 'ternary logic' as an answer to the exam and will wait for an answer from sri... Wink

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:27 pm
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legioninfinity
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Chramey - I understand your objection. All I can say is - "It just felt so right" I take full responsibility for it being more of an intuitive wild stab in the dark than the clear demonstration of a logical rule.

But that's kinda what crosswords are like I reckon.

Why enrol? that's what sri want.

Now I look at it again I kinda see more (tenuous) stuff marking 6 + 8 as different from the other clues.

The clue for each is immediately followed by one of the nonsense clues.
The answers for both are names (I know another answer is also a name)

The clues themselves hint heavily at lies, contradictions, fuzzy logic and -most tantalisingly-
Quote:
inconsistency tolerant systems of logic

which may suggest that the solution is not entirely going to make good scientific sense.

As I say, I am sure there are other clues I have missed.

If you think that sounds flimsy, I guess I'd have to agree. Perhaps I should have trailed that last post as a spec rather than prematurely as a solve but hey ho - I'll do a suitably grovelling edit in a day or so if I still haven't heard anything. And then if I'm really lucky I can live forever as a cautionary tale about lazy reasoning and the danger of starting with the answer you want to hear. I'll have the words "inconsistency tolerant" branded somewhere prominent and I guess I'll have to stop trying to make a living from my psychic powers, at least til it all blows over.

Anyhow, I guess we'll find out sooner or later. I got the standard auto-response from SRImail.

PS: Nice brick, I'm off to read about ternary logic.

EDIT: About the branding, I just kinda changed my mind, y'know?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:05 pm
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carmenmiranda
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I really feel like we're missing something here entirely. The clues were straightforward.

Most of them are about opposites and contradictions, so I've tried sending "Exit" to the exam. I don't think that's it, but figured it's worth a shot.

I think it's more likely that the asterisks on certain clues mean something. There are the same number of asterisks as there are letters in the cypher.

I tried following the asterisks and taking the first letter of the answer if the asterisk was at the beginning of the question, and the last letter of the answer if it was at the end, and then doing a Vignere on ENRTE using that as the key, but that didn't yield anything useful. But I do feel that those asterisks are there for a reason, and whatever that reason is, I'm clearly not getting it.

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