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[INTERACTION] Sun-Yi, Matt & Derek
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[INTERACTION] Sun-Yi, Matt & Derek
Peace negotiations between Matt & Derek

From the interaction which began here Here is the follow up:

I asked for a little clarification from Sun-Yi & her reply was
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Well, you know, Matt's really touchy about the mother issue, and even though Derek didn't mean any harm, it just was probably the worst thing he could have said right then. And Derek's also touchy about his own mom who's been pushing him to give up his "kid stuff" and grow up. I think maybe Matt wants Derek to appreciate having a mom at all, even one who nags.

Not to mention Matt was still ticked off about Derek falling asleep for the Today Show. That definitely didn't help.

So, I wrote to Matt:
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I am a Friend of Sun-Yi and Derek

And I am butting my nose in where it doesn't belong because I was asked to.

I know you and Derek had a bit of a falling out & I am pretty sure it
was because of a very poor, but not poorly meant, comment that Derek
made.

I have seen the video of what happened & honestly, i think you already
had some things on your mind that might have made you a bit more
sensitive than you would have been if they weren't on your mind.

What would it take for you to let it go & be Derek's friend again?
You realize how much he is going to need a friend when Amie comes to
New York, don't you? I have a feeling he is gonna have his heart
crushed like a dried fall leaf before she leaves NY again.

You guys have been too close for too long to let something silly like
a few words come between you like this, especially when you know that
Derek really didn't say them with the intention of hurting you.

I will be glad to pass any messages back to Sun-Yi or Derek for you,
Although i really wish you would just talk to Derek yourself.


Got a reply from Matt today
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Did Derek ask you to contact me? He does seem to be avoiding me lately, so I could see him putting somebody up to this.

Thanks for your concern. You're probably right, I doubt Derek deliberately meant to hurt my feelings with that comment. But the comment was just the icing on the cake, really.

I was already pissed that he pretty much blew us off while Sun-Yi and I were freezing our asses off trying to promote HIS club, then he makes us stop and wait for him while he goes shopping. I suppose I did sort of snap when he said that, but to me it was just indicative of his general self-centered obliviousness.

I know Derek's a good guy, but I just think we come from two very different worlds. I guess I hadn't noticed this so much before my Mom died, but now it's like night and day. Derek's never really lost anyone close to him. I've lost almost everyone. I'm not looking for pity or anything, but at the same time, I guess I find it hard to get too worked up over some missing toys. I would give up every toy, every possession I ever had to spend one more day with my mother, or to just meet my father or grandfather. I just don't know if Derek will ever understand. For his sake, I hope he doesn't. But it's just hard for me to relate to him any more. He's 2 years older than me, but I just feel like I'm talking to a kid when I'm around him. I guess I've just been forced to grow up faster. I don't fault him for this, it's just the way things are.

Well, I feel a bit strange writing all this to you, and I've been contemplating deleting this response and just writing, "Hi RedHatty, thanks for your concern. --Matt." Which is what I intended to write, but all this just came out once I started writing. But you obviously care a lot about Derek, and I trust that if you do share my thoughts, you won't tell him anything that will hurt his feelings. Like you said, Amie's bound to do that already. Sad

Thanks.


So now I have to figure out what to say to Derek...
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Okay - so this is what I sent to Derek (my personal story is not completely true, my mom still has all her wits)

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man do i feel weird, Sun-Yi asked for volunteers to help get things right between you & Matt & well, I volunteered.

You 2 have been friends for over 2 years & it is not right that things should be so strained between you right now.

I wrote Matt first & I'd like to share with you some of how he feels, hopefully it can get you 2 talking to each other again. But i am gonna try to do this by relating some of my own experiences, because I can express how i felt easier than I can read Matt's mind, ya know?

A few years back, my father died. I was very close to him, more so than my mother - strange, huh? Anyway, shortly after my Dadd died, my mother completely lost her mind - really. So while i am dealing with grief over my dad, I also had to deal with the responsibility of finding a place to care for my mother (who doesn't even know who I am anymore)

Before this happened, I was fun loving, relatively care-free, a kid in many ways, while still dealing with some adult responsibilities. Afterwards, I was completely different. I had to grow up & grow up FAST! I was all of a sudden completely on my own & it was scary & it hurt at the same time.

I would get so frustrated with my friends who still had, what I considered later, the luxury of being relatively carefree, they would seem to be so immature & irresponsible & it would piss me off - to be completely honest.

Add to that, going through the stages of grief and you can imagine that if a leaf fell the wrong way it was likely to either make me mad or make me cry. Everything was a button waiting to be pushed.

And, although i didn't realize it yet, no one was actually 'trying' to push my buttons, but it sure felt like they were. I almost lost some really good friends because of MY level of sensitivity to life. Thank God those friends were better friends to me than i was to them at that time & we are all still friends, ya know?

I know you never meant to hurt Matt in any way! But he is so raw right now (and will be for some time) that everything can hurt. It is hard for him to see you able tobe carefree & full of youth, while he feels like the whole world is sitting on his shoulders.

And we won't even go into what he feels when you complain about your mom, he thinks you should be thankful she is still there to get on you.

Right now he is throwing himself into the stuff from his grandfather & it is some very intriguing stuff, you have to admit. But it is his way of reaching back to the people he lost, whether he ever knew them or not, because what he feels right now, more than anything is a depth of loss that is hard to imagine.

I really wish you guys would talk & YOU need to apologize for just flat out being stupid in a badly timed comment (which I know you never meant to hurt him with, but you did). He needs you around & you need him too. Friends are precious, don't let this distance between you two grow any more than it already has. Please!

Red


Derek's reply

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Hey Red,

You're right, I do have a hard time trying to imagine the loss Matt must be feeling. I guess I hadn't really thought about my having fun as being something that pissed him off. I've been trying to get him to laugh and do fun things so he's not so mopey and depressed. When he gets like that, I really don't know what to say to him. I don't think there's anything I can say that will make him feel better, so there are usually a lot of awkward silences, which get unbearable, and I end up cracking a joke or something. I guess this probably doesn't help, from what you say, though.

I do need to just talk to him, though. I think we've both been kinda avoiding each other.

Thanks for your help.

-D


So hopefully they will get to talking again now
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Good work on this Red Hatty, too bad Derek screwed it up as per his news post on the 13th.

On her most recent audio Sun-Yi asks if she should still keep making the Valentine she was making for Derek.

Not sure what Matt is feeling right now.
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