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MrFluffyPants
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Still waiting for approval at The Happy Cube, but I've been watching for a few days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_9

http://www.lyricsondemand.com/b/beatleslyrics/revolution9lyrics.html

I can't make heads nor tails of it. Maybe we'll get something after all the children are finished posting, which, since they're posting every half hour, should be 8.
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TMM
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new thread from Love

dazeytweeter wrote:
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Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9,


Play it backwards and it sounds like "Turn me on dead man"

This is a shot in the dark but I think videos 6 & 9 will somehow be an an opposite of each other. Especially since this post comes one day after 6 has been posted.


could you or someone else post an audio clip of this?

~tmm

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StarkRavingMad
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new thread from Love

TMM wrote:

could you or someone else post an audio clip of this?

~tmm


http://kingtet.com/number9.htm has the whole song backwards.

Certain parts of the song can be played normally and looped here: http://www.escape.com/~dario/beatles/number9/

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:23 pm
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faster
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Hello, I'm new here. I've been lurking for a couple of days and following WI: thought it was time I shared a few thoughts.

Firstly, Jack's old homepage - I think a lot of this has been ignored, although maybe rightly so as I can't see how any of it is relevant:

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Did you notice where the email links are directed to? webmasterSPLATsmithfamily.com

Any possible relation to the "Fraud" of Agent Smith on Youtube?


The link isn't a fraud - it's a generic, as are the photos described by starkravingmad (good find though!). I think it's part of a genealogy template setting on freeservers or something. It's not the only part of Jack's site that is generic. For proof, see below:

http://sritronicsnlr.8m.com/
http://eraser-inc.biz/
edit: note the url of the image at the bottom of the second one, where the broken image is on Jack's page...

The other thing to mention about this site - someone asked about this but I don't think anyone ever answered, apologies if I'm mistaken - are the references to "OC" and the photopage. Taken together, and given what else we know about Pembry's "Squeedleklotch" alias, it's obvious that both OC and OCJ (see the photo page) represetent "OC Jones", a poster on the Futurama fan-forum Squeedleklotch apparently frequented - http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-002549-5/ - search for Squeedlekotch on the linked page and you'll see who I mean. Note the conversation he posts between Squeedleklotch and 'SmarterChild': it's about 'taking out the trash' and, (in German), how fun things are when they don't "get too easy". Could be totally unrelated, or it could be about disposing of something else - something mentioned in Pembry's fictional blog (also - in the first post on this, read the comments on the first post (http://squeedleklotch.livejournal.com/338.html), where a friend of the poster refers to him as "Ohcee" - are they the same person?)...

Secondly, about ilovetofix's most recent post - see this copy and paste from my post in the happycube guest thread (i still haven't been activated Sad ):

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I have a few thoughts I'd like to share, although I don't wish to draw any conclusions at this stage:

* The phrase "number 9" repeats, I think, 52 times in Revolution 9 - likewise in ilovetofix's post and the subsequent ones from the children.

* Manson was allegedly inspired by the song, amongst others. Likewise, one of the suggested motives of his crimes (eg 'The Family's' murders of Tate et al) was the acting out of Crowley's "Book of the Law". Crowley has been mentioned a few times, most notably in relation to the Ante Primal Triad.

* iliketofix said that Father Paranoia spoke to both Crowley and to Manson.

* Numerology has come up a few times. More than a few in fact. The Book of the Law contains a passage that apears to be routed to numerology. See http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id381.html. Note the references to "terror", "dread" and stars. All could be relevant.

I don't know how useful or on track any of these things are - as I say they are just thoughts and not conclusions - but nonethless I just wanted to throw them out as observations. Apologies if I'm way of track.

I hope this helps.

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Now, I may be well off on all of this, but I thought it was interesting and underinvestigated as yet. Your comments would be appreciated - I'm totally new to this sort of thing and you people evidently know a lot more than me.

faster

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StarkRavingMad
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faster wrote:

The other thing to mention about this site - someone asked about this but I don't think anyone ever answered, apologies if I'm mistaken - are the references to "OC" and the photopage. Taken together, and given what else we know about Pembry's "Squeedleklotch" alias, it's obvious that both OC and OCJ (see the photo page) represetent "OC Jones", a poster on the Futurama fan-forum Squeedleklotch apparently frequented - http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-002549-5/ - search for Squeedlekotch on the linked page and you'll see who I mean. Note the conversation he posts between Squeedleklotch and 'SmarterChild': it's about 'taking out the trash' and, (in German), how fun things are when they don't "get too easy". Could be totally unrelated, or it could be about disposing of something else - something mentioned in Pembry's fictional blog (also - in the first post on this, read the comments on the first post (http://squeedleklotch.livejournal.com/338.html), where a friend of the poster refers to him as "Ohcee" - are they the same person?)...


One thing about the squeedlekloch connection. I PMed ilovetofix about squeedleklotch and the connection with that board, especially as "Jack"'s homepage has artwork from Margarita who is a member of those boards. I specifically asked if it would be worth following up with/contacting margarita to see what she knew.

His response was:
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It would only yell you about who Jack was as a person outside of his cubing hobby. He had many friends on that message board, and he acted his most normal when around them.

It will more than likely not reveal any clues about me or the going-ons here, though.


So it seems that following up too much on the squeedleklotch backstory may be a dead end. I sort of suspect that squeedleklotch was either an abortive attempt to set up this story that was abandoned, or maybe even the actual posting of one of the PMs, with the LJ being something of a test at finding his "voice" for this sort of thing. The Holger DeVanky page linked from squeedleklotch's LJ is so obviously silly as to be a parody. I suspect that maybe we dug a little too deep and too well and ended up somewhere behind the curtain on that front.

Even the "old" cubing posts seem a little strange to me...Look at Jack's "grand reopening" thread and things like "But now, a test:
Jack, why did you kill that victim? You stabbed him, probably should have shot him." I wonder if this whole thing was originally planned to go in one direction and then reworked into its present state.

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grandmasterstab
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I didn't mean to say the link was a fraud, I was referring to the fact that love said Smith wasn't part of this. Could that email or the people on the Futurama board lead us to Pembrys current location? He was still active on the Cube forums when they were first discovered.



Also, what became of the video Jaime had? Live never said if it was destroyed when Jaime was made to "Go Away".

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faster
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Yeah, I kind of thought that whole thread might be a dead end - thanks for the extra info Stark - but even if we can kill it off for sure then that's something I suppose.

Did you have any thoughts on the Manson / Number 9 stuff?

faster

edit: the only thing that bothers me, though, is if the LJ and initial website were abortive attempts at a start that we weren't meant to find, why not get rid of them (if this is possible) or change the name from thehappycube? And why link it from the current forum (I suppose this could be an oversight, given that the link isn't necessarily easy to find)?

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StarkRavingMad
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faster wrote:

Did you have any thoughts on the Manson / Number 9 stuff?


I posted in the discussion thread on the HCB boards:

Taken from Wikipedia:

As with Revolution itself, the theme was inspired by the contemporary May 1968 riots in Paris, and "Revolution 9" was meant to capture the violence of a revolution in progress. At over eight minutes it was the longest track on the album, as well as the longest Beatles track ever officially released.

"Paul is Dead" Significance

Revolution 9 played an important part in the infamous "Paul is Dead" controversy. If one listens carefully, the "babble", many believe, includes hints left by the band about Paul's alleged death. These include the repeated "Turn me on, dead man" and "Let me out!" As the "Paul Is Dead" rumours were quickly debunked, these "clues" are creative misinterpretation of "Revolution 9", and are an interesting footnote to the Beatles' history.

Charles Manson

LA District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi and Manson Family member Susan Atkins came up with the theory that Charles Manson believed that "Revolution 9" was a reference to Revelation 9, a book in the Bible that speaks of apocalypse and prophecy. He believed The Beatles were speaking to him through this song, and he drew many odd interpretations from the lyrics.

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Interestingly enough, Dennis Wilson (not Donald Wilson), one of the founding members of the Beach Boys, was a friend of Charles Manson before the murders. He said "I guess it's time to talk about it. You see, when I knew Manson it was no big thing. We were friends; we lived together. That was long before the murders. And we'd talk every night, just like you and me. We'd really talk about important things." The interviewer went on asking the question "Do you know why Manson organized those murders?", Dennis responded "I know why Charles Manson did what he did. Someday, I'll tell the world. I'll write a book and explain why he did it. Over the years, people have always wanted to know what happened, what my relationship with Charlie was. We were just friends."

iliketofix said that Father Paranoia whispered the Failed Plan to Manson. There's connections of some sort here, but I don't know how strong they are.

(edit): as for why the old stuff is there...I don't know. Maybe they changed direction in mid-ARG. Or maybe they thought the old stuff would make for good atmosphere. I think the big mistake was that they forgot to get rid of the website in Jack Pemby's profile, or at least take down the picture page on that website, which is what led us to the whole squeedleklotch connection. I mean, I'm not sure that whole aspect is a dead end, but they sure seem to be downplaying it and so I suspect it was somewhere we weren't supposed to end up. But who knows?

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faster
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Thanks again Stark - I spotted your post on HCP after posting here, apologies for avoidable duplication. I can't help thinking that the things of greatest relevance in 'revolution nine' and 'stairway to heaven' are the backmasking and connotations/associations with Satan. This would also explain why 'hallelujah' is an 'opposite' I suppose.

Other thoughts:

  • Maybe Dennis Wilson's never-written book about why Manson did it is the book that everyone's been looking for? If it's about why a man kills (or incites killing), then maybe it'd be a helpful asset for a serial killer who wanted to stop killing? Seems a little spurious though, for now at least...

  • Numerology and Greek have come up a lot. Crowley also wrote a book about the Greek Qabalah didn't he? Again, this seems spurious as long as there's nothing else that can be done with the connection.

  • ilovetofix has just mentioned Clio, the muse of heroic poetry and, according to Wikipedia, her name comes from the Greek "make famous". Could be relevant if people are interested in the secular interpretation of the person who is "a star".

faster

PS: as for the AgentSmith 'fraud' - probably just a coincedence as the name is a reference to the Matrix isn't it? Although one could take the very spurious route of pointing to the character Morpheus in that film and the Morpheus of mythlogy... Wink

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gigagigagiga
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"I do not understand the significance of this 'waffletruck'"
The mystery deepens.

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faster wrote:
Bunch of stuff


Already went through this a couple of days ago. The LJ is a total dead end. Love said it was fictional work of Pembry and would not yield anything. I think that we accidently tracked this down and suprised them. Either way, it's a dead end. Also... SmarterChild is a chat bot, for what it's worth. /shrug

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casper29 wrote:
Also... SmarterChild is a chat bot, for what it's worth. /shrug


I know. But the normal SmarterChild chat bot never replied in German. Shocked

faster


edit: "Dextrobotical
Has made at least two useless comments, and sent me one personally over PM. Also, WAFFLETRUCK DID NOT PLEASE ME."

Something about ilovetofix's way with words always seems to make me smile. Especially when dealing with "minor annoyances". Very Happy

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new thread from Love

TMM wrote:
dazeytweeter wrote:
Quote:
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9,


Play it backwards and it sounds like "Turn me on dead man"

This is a shot in the dark but I think videos 6 & 9 will somehow be an an opposite of each other. Especially since this post comes one day after 6 has been posted.


could you or someone else post an audio clip of this?

~tmm


Love has already said that "backmasking" is silly and won't get us any more clues. So I don't think this is an angle.

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warneverchanges wrote:
TMM wrote:
dazeytweeter wrote:
Quote:
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9,


Play it backwards and it sounds like "Turn me on dead man"

This is a shot in the dark but I think videos 6 & 9 will somehow be an an opposite of each other. Especially since this post comes one day after 6 has been posted.


could you or someone else post an audio clip of this?

~tmm


Love has already said that "backmasking" is silly and won't get us any more clues. So I don't think this is an angle.


Thanks for the tip warneverchanges. One thing I did notice with video 6 is that it's red instead of black & white (barring the text of course)

Sucks that I haven't been approved yet but a gamejacker-off got in with a box of Waffle Crisp Laughing

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new thread from Love

dazeytweeter wrote:

Sucks that I haven't been approved yet but a gamejacker-off got in with a box of Waffle Crisp Laughing


I was thinking that too, until the minor annoyances thread delivered such comic joy...

Happy birthday by the way!

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