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AprilAWZ
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Alyx Chusil wrote:
Closest I found was flight 326 from Singapore to New York's JFK at 2:30 on 3/3/07.

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So, the 3/3/7 thing is nagging at me. The first date is 2/25/07. Maybe it's not a date.


I agree with you, Alyx. Especially in this context, it really seems to be something other than March 3, '07. I've been playing with the numbers, but haven't found anything yet.

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I think I've gone over this thread about 12 times...at least! Coffee

The first thing that pops out to me is that TA keeps telling us to basically compare our notes. Sooo, with that in mind, I'm starting a summary, please add or correct where you see fit. Hopefully, someone will see a connection that will get us going in the right direction.

The "Characters"

Alex Peterson. He is genetically engineered/modified. He is being sought out by "the man in Japan", possibly the Russian Mafia, and TA, or whatever organization/govt. s/he is affiliated with. He was not on the flight from LA to Singapore...he was in Miami at the time.

TransientAxiom. Only contact so far. Wants us to find out who was on flight 11. Self-proclaimed "unknown observer", claiming "no active role". However, he also said that he, or his affiliated group wants to "apprehend" Alex. His govt. wants to bring Alex and the person from the economically broken environment to "justice". He also had Kitrona confirm Alex's location (Miami) for him, so he clearly is playing an active role in all of this somehow.

"The man from Japan". An assasin given the task of killing Alex.

The person from the "economically broken environment". Mentioned by TA in AIM chat with DJPedro.

The "prodigal son". Mentioned by TA in chat with DJPedro. He was on the LA/Singapore flight. We know this is not Alex, but not much beyond that.

TA also made mention of a "rival" of Alex's...not sure who this refers to.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Although it would be impossible to list our "known unknowns" (as it would include...everything!) at this point, a few things that are bugging me..

1. Who is behind the romxnce.net website? All we know is that it's not Alex. Also, part of the comment on the romxnce site... "Can you hear me Mr. Peterson? Or shall I turn it up for you?" Does this refer to Alex being engineered for a specific trait, or some auditory clue we are supposed to find?

2. Who is the Prodigal Son? The person from the econ.b.env.? Was the reference to the Saint on 03/03/337 relevent?

3. What does 3/3/7 really mean?

4. TA went out of his way to point out that the LA/Singapore flight stopped over in Tokyo right after mentioning the "man from Japan". However, Alex was in Miami at the time, so what is, or is there a connection between the "prodigal son" and the man from Japan?

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Judging by the website comments, I have a feeling it might be run by the man from Japan...the assasin after Alex. There would be no reason (that I can see, at least) that he would hop on the flight to Singapore, since that only takes him farther away from his quarry. Heading to NY makes more sense. However, if you are trying to locate and kill someone, would it be wise to let him know where you're at?

For what it's worth, I played with the time zones for the flight. All times listed on the Singapore Airlines page are local. Flight 11 landed in Singapore Monday, Feb. 26 at 12:30 pm eastern time..ie, New York time. I was going to put together a whole big thing converting the whole flight itinerary into Pacific, Eastern, London (just for you, Alyx), and Singapore time, but my brain started to liquify and leak out of my ears midway through the task, so I decided against it. Confused

Ugh...I'm going to bed!

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Arg! No pun intended. I should have thought of this before. Flights from Tokyo to Miami. I'll check it when I get a chance. But why would the Man in Japan use Singapore Airlines again?

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Alyx Chusil wrote:
But why would the Man in Japan use Singapore Airlines again?


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Singapore Air doesn't fly to Florida. It looks like their US stops are NY (JFK & EWR), San Fransisco, LA, and Phoenix. On the 26th, the only SA flight from Tokyo to the States was Flight 12, departing Tokyo at 6:15pm, and landing in LA at 11:05 the same day...international date line, not time travel..lol!

I checked Vancouver also, nothing there. So, if Japan Man made it to the US on Monday via Singapore Air, LA was his only option.

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This should help clear things up a bit. Looks like theres really only 3 characters ,alex,TA and the man from Japan at the moment.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

1:24] CryptoDL: Hello.Any news on Alex?
[21:24] TransientAxiom: Mm.
[21:25] TransientAxiom: Alex Peterson, age 17.
[21:25] TransientAxiom: I would concentrate on his counterpart, though.
[21:25] CryptoDL: who is his counterpart?
[21:25] TransientAxiom: Your friends seem to have split him into several people.
[21:27] TransientAxiom: I still suggest you pool your research and re-examine things. Also, I suggest that your search on Alex be turned in on itself. That is, to say, on yourselves and your community.
[21:28] CryptoDL: Are you suggesting alex is part of our community?
[21:29] TransientAxiom: I'm suggesting that at one point, a few of your colleagues knew him, either personally or indirectly.
[21:30] CryptoDL: Hmm interesting. And as to his counterpart, Do you mean the man from Japan , from an economically broken environment?
[21:30] CryptoDL: Im assuming that they are the same person..
[21:30] TransientAxiom: They are.
[21:31] CryptoDL: Is he also the prodigal son?
[21:31] TransientAxiom: One and the same.
[21:34] CryptoDL: Is he in Tokyo? Or is that a different person?
[21:35] TransientAxiom: Also the same.
[21:37] CryptoDL: whats he doing in Tokyo?
[21:37] TransientAxiom: I imagine he's researching the history of Mr. Peterson.
[21:38] CryptoDL: Is there a way I can contact him directly?
[21:39] TransientAxiom: I'm sure things will reveal themselves.
[21:43] CryptoDL: what exactly is your interest in all of this?
[21:44] TransientAxiom: I work for the government that created Alex Peterson.
[21:44] CryptoDL: So you want to bring him in?
[21:45] TransientAxiom: Correct.
[21:45] CryptoDL: Dead or Alive?
[21:45] TransientAxiom: Either, although it is preferred that he be apprehended alive.
[21:46] CryptoDL: Hmmm.
[21:48] CryptoDL: Is the man from japan running the romxnce.net site? What does he mean turn it up?
[21:48] TransientAxiom: He is, and I imagine it's a challenge of sorts.
[21:49] CryptoDL: How exactly was alex genetically modified?
[21:51] TransientAxiom: One could speculate for days.
[21:53] CryptoDL: I must go now. Thankyou for your help.
[21:54] TransientAxiom: My pleasure.


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Had a rather illuminating chat with TA, but, as always, we now have more questions than answers. That, and I can't believe he put up with over a half hour of interrogation..lol!!

I'm just going to throw this up here for now. I was basically pumping him for every bit of info I could get, I was not really thinking of what it all meant at the time. I'll try to sort it all out later.


[15:33] AprilFCG: Hello, I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions.
[15:33] TransientAxiom: Ask away.
[15:34] AprilFCG: I have quite a few, actually, but I'll start with the website. Are all the numbers dates?
[15:34] TransientAxiom: I would assume so. It's not my website.
[15:35] AprilFCG: The man from Japan you'd talked about earlier, do you think he is connected to it?
[15:35] TransientAxiom: Undoubtedly.
[15:36] AprilFCG: I was thinking that myself. But, what confuses me is that, if he is hunting Alex, would he necessarily want to be giving hints about his whereabouts?
[15:37] TransientAxiom: A little ego can go a long way.
[15:38] AprilFCG: Yes, yes, I'd have to imagine so. Of course, it could also be a ruse to create confusion.
[15:38] AprilFCG: What about Alex would allow him to hear, or rather, not hear the webmaster?
[15:40] TransientAxiom: My best guess is that it's a challenge. Both are trained assassins.
[15:41] AprilFCG: Oh...that certainly sheds some light on Alex's situation. Was this the purpose behind his genetically altered creation?
[15:41] TransientAxiom: Yes.
[15:42] AprilFCG: So, your government is interested in containing him, rather than actual "justice", or is he "on the run" due to crimes he's commited?
[15:43] TransientAxiom: Several reasons. Containment, justice, and self-interest.
[15:44] AprilFCG: Of course, something like this could be quite volitile if not managed properly. Earlier, you'd also mentioned a man from an economically broken environment. Is this the "prodigal son" from Flight 11?
[15:44] TransientAxiom: Indeed.
[15:45] AprilFCG: Are Alex and the Prodigal Son from the same environment?
[15:45] TransientAxiom: No.
[15:45] AprilFCG: Why had the Son strayed? Why is he returning?
[15:45] TransientAxiom: I'm not entirely sure.
[15:46] TransientAxiom: I don't have all the answers. Some information is hard to obtain.
[15:46] TransientAxiom: Alex' enemy is from Russia, and has been gone from Russia for a every long time.
[15:47] AprilFCG: So, is this the possible Russian Maffia tie?
[15:48] TransientAxiom: Possibly.
[15:49] AprilFCG: I see. So, Alex seems to have a few enemies...the man from Japan, your government, the Russian Expat enemy....
[15:49] AprilFCG: Alex is clearly hunted, but is he hunting anyone?
[15:49] TransientAxiom: Alex is a reactionary person. If someone plans on attacking him, he will try to attack first.
[15:50] AprilFCG: I see. Does he have any allies?
[15:50] TransientAxiom: Not that I know of.
[15:51] AprilFCG: What motivates him? What is his goal?
[15:51] TransientAxiom: Survival.
[15:52] AprilFCG: And his enemies will not accept anything other than his death?
[15:52] AprilFCG: Is there no room for compromise?
[15:52] TransientAxiom: My organization wants him alive.
[15:52] AprilFCG: For what purpose?
[15:53] TransientAxiom: I'm not at liberty to discuss.
[15:53] AprilFCG: Of course. I'm sorry, I thought you were affiliated with a government rather than a private organization.
[15:54] TransientAxiom: Who says I'm not?
[15:54] AprilFCG: A double agent?
[15:55] TransientAxiom: No, just an agent of the US government.
[15:55] AprilFCG: Oh, so Alex is one of our creation?
[15:57] *** "TransientAxiom" signed off at Tue Feb 27 15:57:49 2007.
[15:59] *** "TransientAxiom" signed on at Tue Feb 27 15:59:18 2007.
[15:59] AprilFCG: Hello again...you not being watched your self by any chance?
[16:00] TransientAxiom: Apologies. I'll have a technician examine this computer.
[16:01] AprilFCG: Not a problem. I have to thank you for your patience with all of my questioning...there is just so much to sort out.
[16:03] AprilFCG: That said, I have a few more inquiries...You'd mentioned a "rival" of Alex's. This said to me that Alex does indeed have some sort of mission, and he is competing against someone for the completion of said mission. Is this accurate?
[16:04] TransientAxiom: Their mission is mutual: Kill each other.
[16:04] AprilFCG: Is this based on animosity, self-preservation, or profit?
[16:05] TransientAxiom: They have different reasons.
[16:05] AprilFCG: Is his rival the Man from Japan?
[16:05] TransientAxiom: Indeed.
[16:05] AprilFCG: Who is this man working for?
[16:06] TransientAxiom: Russian mob by my research.
[16:08] AprilFCG: What exactly did Alex do that resulted in his debt to the Mafia?
[16:08] TransientAxiom: Not entirely sure, myself. At this point, I have to be going.
[16:08] AprilFCG: Thank you for your time, this has been very enlightening.
[16:08] *** "TransientAxiom" signed off at Tue Feb 27 16:08:52 2007.

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Odd Alex Peterson is 17 and has been at this for seemingly some time. Apparently genetically altered Americans don't go to high school. In my country, being a government test subject doesn't allow truancy.

Anyway. 17...So he was created/birthed/built in 1990, the very very end of the Cold War. So Alex is, in all probability, a Cold War weapon that never had a chance to be used. Maybe this is why he went rogue, because he hadn't a purpose?

Regardless, let's research our first contact with TransientAxiom. If he knows that Alex had contact with one of us (one of us whom TA contacted), some kind of answer might lie there.

****edit

I'm in Los Angeles, California, USA right now and apparently TransientAxiom is asleep when I'm awake. This causes displeasure.

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Peterson was on this board!

Quote:
EtTuTortilla: I have a quick question if you've got the time.
TransientAxiom: Sure.
EtTuTortilla: DJP3DRO was contacted by you in respect to Alex Peterson?
TransientAxiom: I gave him the link to romxnce. He asked the questions.
EtTuTortilla: But you sought him out.
TransientAxiom: Your reputations as investigators precede you.
EtTuTortilla: Is he the one who has connections to Peterson? If so, would he know off hand, or would it have been something in passing?
TransientAxiom: No, not him.
TransientAxiom: You, as a group, have had dealings with him, however.
EtTuTortilla: Ah.
EtTuTortilla: Well that certainly clears some things up, I think.
EtTuTortilla: If I'm thinking correctly.
TransientAxiom: indeed.
EtTuTortilla: One last bit.
EtTuTortilla: As of now our efforts should be concentrated on the one hired by the Russian mafia?



He came back a little later and was very adamant that we search for him [Peterson]. I'm going to start by hitting up everything. Google, Wikipedia, Facebook, MySpace. Anything else I can find.

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Talking right now. Will edit with results.

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Seems like the name Alex Peterson was used in the Project Ashcroft games. Just started reading the Project Ashcroft 3 thread, after getting a few hits with a uf search

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Ashcroft is a definite yes.

Quote:
EtTuTortilla: Does our Alex know Josephine or work for HHR?
TransientAxiom: Finally you are catching on.
EtTuTortilla: In a way.
EtTuTortilla: Perhaps my compatriots will be able to bring me up to speed with what I've found.
TransientAxiom: I certainly hope so.



So. OK. I'm obviously lost. Still, I've found something! Time to celebrate with copious amounts of alcohol!

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Here it is...
Another Half Hour discussion.

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cbvicious1 (3:30:18 PM): Hey
cbvicious1 (9:16:39 PM): Hello
TransientAxiom (9:16:55 PM): Hello.
cbvicious1 (9:17:00 PM): My colleagues have pooled information
TransientAxiom (9:17:37 PM): I understand.
cbvicious1 (9:17:54 PM): We have figured out that who we thought were three men were apparently only one
TransientAxiom (9:18:20 PM): I have figured as much.
cbvicious1 (9:18:41 PM): Do you know any names of people who know Peterson?
TransientAxiom (9:19:19 PM): Only some dead people.
cbvicious1 (9:19:33 PM): I see... How can we find out who knew him then?
TransientAxiom (9:20:03 PM): Well.
TransientAxiom (9:20:27 PM): The four people Alex considered enemies at any point have been killed.
cbvicious1 (9:20:34 PM): Ok... anything else?
TransientAxiom (9:20:49 PM): Naomi Goldsman, Ally Wilder, Josephine Francis, and John Peterson.
TransientAxiom (9:21:03 PM): A little searching with those names should lead you to some answers, I believe.
cbvicious1 (9:21:03 PM): I dont recognize any of the names, but maybe my colleagues will...
TransientAxiom (9:21:24 PM): They won't. That's why they need to search.
cbvicious1 (9:21:22 PM): Ok... Who is the Russian?
TransientAxiom (9:21:47 PM): The Russian is an ex-Mafia hitman assigned to assassinating Alex.
cbvicious1 (9:21:48 PM): I know that much. But are he and Peterson the same?
TransientAxiom (9:22:14 PM): Alex Peterson would probably kill you if he heard you say that.
cbvicious1 (9:22:39 PM): Good, we weren't completely sure on that... I assume the Russian is not a good person to have dealings with then?
TransientAxiom (9:23:38 PM): As I understand, he was expatriated from Russia by the mafia for being too soft.
TransientAxiom (9:23:43 PM): However, I doubt he's trustworthy.
cbvicious1 (9:23:50 PM): Did he avoid killing someone? From what you understand I mean
TransientAxiom (9:24:11 PM): I imagine so.
cbvicious1 (9:24:24 PM): Have you ever been to Russia?
TransientAxiom (9:25:23 PM): I'm not at liberty to discuss.
cbvicious1 (9:25:28 PM): Siberian Plains are beautiful, no?
TransientAxiom (9:26:00 PM): I wouldn't know, sir. I'll have to ask you to refrain from asking personal questions at this time.
cbvicious1 (9:26:23 PM): Ok... Do I know Peterson? Under an alias?
TransientAxiom (9:26:41 PM): Doubtful.
cbvicious1 (9:26:51 PM): Does he live in the United States currently?
TransientAxiom (9:27:40 PM): I don't think he lives in any particular place.
TransientAxiom (9:28:07 PM): Being on the run from at least two major international groups would force one into a nomadic life, I imagine.
cbvicious1 (9:28:08 PM): Yes, I believe it would.
cbvicious1 (9:28:26 PM): What countries are involved in the search?
TransientAxiom (9:29:04 PM): The US government and the Russian Mafia are the only two known factions.
cbvicious1 (9:29:29 PM): Why does the US government want him?
TransientAxiom (9:29:57 PM): Because it was the US government that created him.
cbvicious1 (9:30:08 PM): Oh, I see... Which organization of the Russian Mafia is after him?
TransientAxiom (9:30:46 PM): None in particular, I believe.
cbvicious1 (9:30:52 PM): Strange, I don't see them working together.
TransientAxiom (9:31:24 PM): The US government and the russian mafia?
cbvicious1 (9:31:35 PM): No, the Izmailovskaya and the Dolgoprudnenskaya
TransientAxiom (9:32:16 PM): My area of expertise is not Russian mob-politics.
cbvicious1 (9:32:25 PM): Ok, do you know an Alexander Solonik though?
TransientAxiom (9:32:45 PM): Not that I know of.
cbvicious1 (9:32:52 PM): Alexey Kuzmin?
TransientAxiom (9:33:33 PM): Like I said, I am not the person the US hired to be an expert on Russian politics.
cbvicious1 (9:33:35 PM): Are you hired by the US?
TransientAxiom (9:33:56 PM): Indeed.
cbvicious1 (9:33:55 PM): What bureau?
TransientAxiom (9:34:18 PM): Nothing official.
cbvicious1 (9:34:23 PM): DoD SS?
TransientAxiom (9:34:53 PM): The fact that you know about me and Alex Peterson is already a huge red-light.
cbvicious1 (9:34:53 PM): Why is that?
TransientAxiom (9:35:05 PM): I'm privately hired.
cbvicious1 (9:35:05 PM): The red-light, I mean
TransientAxiom (9:35:44 PM): Because your average citizen isn't exactly supposed to have access to top secret access.
TransientAxiom (9:35:49 PM): Ah. Information, I meant.
cbvicious1 (9:36:00 PM): I may not be an average citizen, but I am not trying to destroy you or Peterson
TransientAxiom (9:36:31 PM): Well, it's not my place to criticize policy.
TransientAxiom (9:36:34 PM): At any rate, I have to be going.
cbvicious1 (9:36:35 PM): Ok, hope to see you around.
TransientAxiom signed off at 9:36:41 PM.
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There it is... He said a lot... but also very little.

ETA: Removed Spoiler.

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You know what would be helpful? A little paragraph on previous Ashcroft things with pertinent websites hilighted. I don't suppose any of us know someone who has enough free time to do that?


****edit

And what is all this "post sanitized" business?

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One thing that leads me away from a game with lots of chats - boring to read.

What helps alot is to highlight/bold the important clue; and/or give a brief sentence or two of the important reason for the chat. Please?
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